Steph Curry Impact

[Dom801e]

Saw a segment from Shannon Sharp about Lakers record with/without Lebron (65% vs 42% win percentage) and how bad Cle/Miami were after he left.

Got me wondering about Steph as I remember there was a big difference between results without him vs without Durant when they were both on GS.

From Statmuse Warriors have 73% winning percentage over last 10 years with Steph and 32% without him.

For reference the Spurs have the best win percentage at 65% over that span and Orlando has the worst at 37%.

A bit of hyperbole but Curry can turn non playoff teams into championship contenders.

[Rodwilliams]

Saw a segment from Shannon Sharp about Lakers record with/without Lebron (65% vs 42% win percentage) and how bad Cle/Miami were after he left.

Got me wondering about Steph as I remember there was a big difference between results without him vs without Durant when they were both on GS.

From Statmuse Warriors have 73% winning percentage over last 10 years with Steph and 32% without him.

For reference the Spurs have the best win percentage at 65% over that span and Orlando has the worst at 37%.

A bit of hyperbole but Curry can turn non playoff teams into championship contenders.

Not if the team doesn’t have elite defenders.

[Black Jack]

Bottom line Curry plus non superstars who are competent is enough to contend. He probably has GOAT level impact and we're all still underrating the guy.

[Mamba Mentality]

Curry is the greatest shooter of all time, but his biggest impact isn't putting the ball in the basket it's his gravity. He opens up the floor and makes the game easy for his teammates. No other player in the history of the league has ever garnered as much attention. Surround him with guys that are willing defenders and competent on offense and you have yourself a contender.

[WarriorGM]

Curry is absurd and still underrated.

He is the greatest shooter.
He is the greatest off ball player.

I also think he is the greatest playmaker.

Possibly the most efficient high volume scorer.

Combined this makes him the greatest offensive player.

He has led raw +/- for something like 4 or 5 years including for a combined regular and playoffs season he missed around 1/3 of all games. He's leading it this year by a large margin too.

Curry has ushered in the three point revolution and along with it the analytics revolution. He's forced the league to bring in switching defenses and consider box and 1s. He's made unskilled slow bigs in the league obsolete. His influence on future players hasn't yet really even begun to be felt in the professional ranks but will.

[Coxy]

Stephen Curry is an entire basketball system, not just a player. With the right coaching and personel around it, it has proven to win so very very much, it's amazing.

[Warriorfan]

One thing about the gravity of Curry you have to surround him with the right players. Big difference between last year and this one.

[SpreeChokeJob]

Curry is absurd and still underrated.

He is the greatest shooter.
He is the greatest off ball player.

I also think he is the greatest playmaker.

Possibly the most efficient high volume scorer.

Combined this makes him the greatest offensive player.

He has led raw +/- for something like 4 or 5 years including for a combined regular and playoffs season he missed around 1/3 of all games. He's leading it this year by a large margin too.

Curry has ushered in the three point revolution and along with it the analytics revolution. He's forced the league to bring in switching defenses and consider box and 1s. He's made unskilled slow bigs in the league obsolete. His influence on future players hasn't yet really even begun to be felt in the professional ranks but will.

I’m going to disagree with greatest playmaker. He still has room for improvement there. I think his play making has been stunted by the system, but he still one of the best, just not the greatest.

Too many turnovers.

[WarriorGM]

Curry is absurd and still underrated.

He is the greatest shooter.
He is the greatest off ball player.

I also think he is the greatest playmaker.

Possibly the most efficient high volume scorer.

Combined this makes him the greatest offensive player.

He has led raw +/- for something like 4 or 5 years including for a combined regular and playoffs season he missed around 1/3 of all games. He's leading it this year by a large margin too.

Curry has ushered in the three point revolution and along with it the analytics revolution. He's forced the league to bring in switching defenses and consider box and 1s. He's made unskilled slow bigs in the league obsolete. His influence on future players hasn't yet really even begun to be felt in the professional ranks but will.

I’m going to disagree with greatest playmaker. He still has room for improvement there. I think his play making has been stunted by the system, but he still one of the best, just not the greatest.

Too many turnovers.

Who is his competition? Magic Johnson? He has turnovers at a comparable clip.

[Harry Garris]

Saw a segment from Shannon Sharp about Lakers record with/without Lebron (65% vs 42% win percentage) and how bad Cle/Miami were after he left.

Got me wondering about Steph as I remember there was a big difference between results without him vs without Durant when they were both on GS.

From Statmuse Warriors have 73% winning percentage over last 10 years with Steph and 32% without him.

For reference the Spurs have the best win percentage at 65% over that span and Orlando has the worst at 37%.

A bit of hyperbole but Curry can turn non playoff teams into championship contenders.

Not if the team doesn’t have elite defenders.

That's a pointless statement because every finals winning team in basketball history has had elite role players that supported the superstar (or superstars).

[art_tatum]

To be fair just like when LeBron leaves, his teams either tank (Cavs) , health issues (heat),or fail (Cavs 2) bc they are built around LeBron ball,
Curry is Kerr's sham system. Without curry and a lesser degree Klay, Draymond is donkey and the system doesn't work.
Replace Steph with kemba, there's no 3v4, not the same open lanes or backdoors cause everyone is figuring out where curry is off ball 25 feet away from the basket.

But yes both are elite floor raisers

[Wolfgang630]

Curry can’t even carry teams into the playoffs by himself. Don’t make stuff up. He needs help just to get into the playoffs

[WarriorGM]

Curry can’t even carry teams into the playoffs by himself. Don’t make stuff up. He needs help just to get into the playoffs

Semantics. League literally had to change the rules for what you say to be true. By the old definition he made it. 54% winning record after the regular season with the team with the worst record the previous year. Michael Jordan had a 50% win rate one year. LeBron "floor raiser" James activated playoff mode then bailed. Neither of those two were working with the previous season's worst team.

[rtiff68]

Saw a segment from Shannon Sharp about Lakers record with/without Lebron (65% vs 42% win percentage) and how bad Cle/Miami were after he left.

Got me wondering about Steph as I remember there was a big difference between results without him vs without Durant when they were both on GS.

From Statmuse Warriors have 73% winning percentage over last 10 years with Steph and 32% without him.

For reference the Spurs have the best win percentage at 65% over that span and Orlando has the worst at 37%.

A bit of hyperbole but Curry can turn non playoff teams into championship contenders.

Not if the team doesn’t have elite defenders.

That's a pointless statement because every finals winning team in basketball history has had elite role players that supported the superstar (or superstars).

Untrue.

In fact, Curry shouldn't even be considered a superstar unless he can win 60+ games and a title with a team compromised entirely of G-Leaguers hand-selected by Rodwilliams.

[Yoshun]

Curry is the greatest shooter of all time, but his biggest impact isn't putting the ball in the basket it's his gravity. He opens up the floor and makes the game easy for his teammates. No other player in the history of the league has ever garnered as much attention. Surround him with guys that are willing defenders and competent on offense and you have yourself a contender.

To add to this, he is one of the best players in NBA history off the ball. He's constantly moving, it's fun to watch.

[nfmos]

Curry is the greatest shooter of all time, but his biggest impact isn't putting the ball in the basket it's his gravity. He opens up the floor and makes the game easy for his teammates. No other player in the history of the league has ever garnered as much attention. Surround him with guys that are willing defenders and competent on offense and you have yourself a contender.

Exactly. And I would add that the gravity doesnt matter if he was selfish and dominated the ball all the time or didnt play as well off the ball.

[Commodor]

I just love looking at the players usually associated with him as the best shooters in the league. Not the spot up guys like Korver or even Klay, but the play making guys who can do it off the dribble.

Lillard? One season over 40% from 3.

Harden? Never broke 40% on the season.

Trae? Never broke 37% on a season.

Curry? 2 seasons under 41%. 1 - the 5 game season the red shirted him to get Wiseman. The other? This season he’s at 40.6. Scratch that after going 9/16 tonight he’s at 41.8.

So one 5 game season he was under 41%.

[Tracymcgoaty]

Curry is the MVP right now. Dude is 2K from three.

[Rodwilliams]

Saw a segment from Shannon Sharp about Lakers record with/without Lebron (65% vs 42% win percentage) and how bad Cle/Miami were after he left.

Got me wondering about Steph as I remember there was a big difference between results without him vs without Durant when they were both on GS.

From Statmuse Warriors have 73% winning percentage over last 10 years with Steph and 32% without him.

For reference the Spurs have the best win percentage at 65% over that span and Orlando has the worst at 37%.

A bit of hyperbole but Curry can turn non playoff teams into championship contenders.

Not if the team doesn’t have elite defenders.

That's a pointless statement because every finals winning team in basketball history has had elite role players that supported the superstar (or superstars).

Duh!!! You just actually agreed with my point without realizing it. This dude said Curry can turn non playoff teams into contenders which means the team doesn’t have elite role players

Your rebuttal was pointless because you just backed up my statement in a different way

Untrue.

In fact, Curry shouldn't even be considered a superstar unless he can win 60+ games and a title with a team compromised entirely of G-Leaguers hand-selected by Rodwilliams.

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Curry is a top 3 player in the NBA this year and was top 3 last year. Harry Garris take was awful because all he did was agree with me but word it in a different way.

[Badly Browned]

Curry is unique in that his GOAT-level shooting and his GOAT-level off-ball movement make him somebody that will break defenses even when he doesn't have the ball in his hands.