Bol Bol's next contract

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Bol Bol's next contract 

Post#1 » by Laimbeer » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:00 pm

Interesting situation. Denver has dished out a lot of $ lately. Bol has a crazy range of possible career outcomes.

Who's interested and what's the market? I hear Detroit and Charlotte mentioned a lot at around three years, 10-12 million per. Reasonable? Who else might bite?
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Re: Bol Bol's next contract 

Post#2 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:03 pm

nobody is giving Bol a 3 year deal at or above the MLE. That's crazy money for a gimmick player with injury risk and major work ethic concerns.

If he can sign a fully gtd vet min contract, he should count himself fortunate.
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Re: Bol Bol's next contract 

Post#3 » by HornetJail » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:05 pm

a minimum

idk where you've seen Charlotte mentioned for Bol Bol, we already have 4 centers that aren't currently rotation level players (though Nick Richards looks the closest)
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Re: Bol Bol's next contract 

Post#4 » by psman2 » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:05 pm

2 way?
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Post#5 » by gswhoops » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:09 pm

Yeah I think the only interesting question here is whether he gets a full roster spot or a two-way. Don’t see anyone shelling out actual money for him at this point.
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Re: Bol Bol's next contract 

Post#6 » by Laimbeer » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:12 pm

What about a five year deal, 5M per with only the first year or two guaranteed. Is that possible?
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Post#7 » by JRoy » Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:38 pm

High risk medium reward guy.

He probably needs to sign 1 year with a team option to dhow he’s ready to take the next day.
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Post#8 » by SmartWentCrazy » Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:33 pm

If he gets more than a two-way, he’ll be lucky
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Post#9 » by mattao313 » Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:23 pm

I thin he gets a 3 Year deal with a team option. Probably around the minimum or a little more.

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Post#10 » by Slava » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:00 pm

Is he even a player who can contribute real NBA minutes rather than being a tik tok reel for a few meaningless fourth quarters, here and there?
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Post#11 » by HornetJail » Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:07 pm

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Post#12 » by DroseReturnChi » Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:20 am

i think he signs 1 yr vet min prove it deal then 3/30.
im a homer so would plunge the mle money right away next unicorn.
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Re: Bol Bol's next contract 

Post#13 » by ejftw » Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:29 am

I'd give him a two year tax payer MLE with year two being a team option. I'm still high on Bol, and it's not due to seeing him play since HS. He needs to be in a place where he zeroes in in his game
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Post#14 » by Manimal » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:59 am

There is a greater chance he ends up in China next year than him getting a contract above the minimum.
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Post#15 » by Alatan » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:36 pm

I dont know what has Bol done to Malone but he hates the kids guts. There is no way that Bol is worse than Campazzo, Green, Rivers or other shmocks that are handed out minutes like they are allstars.

Bottom line is the kid is really talented and he'll prove you guys wrong in a couple of seasons. Denver will be biting their asses for maxing a guy with a literal stick in his back instead of playing and keeping Bol for much less.
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Re: Bol Bol's next contract 

Post#16 » by Resistance » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:42 pm

Laimbeer wrote:What about a five year deal, 5M per with only the first year or two guaranteed. Is that possible?


With Porter's new contract kicking in next season, I have Denver looking to pinch pennies where they can on the rest of the rest of the roster.


At the most, other teams can offer him a contract of four years in length.
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Post#17 » by Laimbeer » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:44 pm

Resistance wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:What about a five year deal, 5M per with only the first year or two guaranteed. Is that possible?


With Porter's new contract kicking in next season, I have Denver looking to pinch pennies where they can on the rest of the rest of the roster.


At the most, other teams can offer him a contract of four years in length.


But how many of the four or five years would the CBA require to be guaranteed?
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Re: Bol Bol's next contract 

Post#18 » by nicnac215 » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:53 pm

Bol is going to China and he will probably put up god like numbers
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Re: Bol Bol's next contract 

Post#19 » by Resistance » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:15 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Resistance wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:What about a five year deal, 5M per with only the first year or two guaranteed. Is that possible?


With Porter's new contract kicking in next season, I have Denver looking to pinch pennies where they can on the rest of the rest of the roster.


At the most, other teams can offer him a contract of four years in length.


But how many of the four or five years would the CBA require to be guaranteed?



63. Are contracts always guaranteed?

There are only a few specific types of contracts that must be guaranteed. All other guarantees are a matter of individual negotiation between the player and team. In practice, the majority of NBA contracts (especially for established veterans) are fully guaranteed. Non-guaranteed salary is most often used for fringe players (either at the beginning or end of their careers) or for the later years of long-term contracts (often in conjunction with benchmarks that allow the salary to become fully guaranteed over time).

Only a player's base salary can be guaranteed -- not bonuses or incentives. The percentage of base salary that is guaranteed cannot increase from one year to the next (e.g., if 50% of a player's salary is guaranteed one season, then no more than 50% can be guaranteed in any subsequent season of the contract).

There are actually several types of guarantees:

    Lack of skill: A "catch-all" that means the player cannot play well enough to justify remaining on the team.

    Death: The player dies while under contract.

    Basketball-related injury: The player cannot render his playing services as a direct result of an injury sustained while playing or practicing for the team.

    Injury/illness: The player cannot render his playing services as a direct result of any illness or injury, whether or not it was basketball related.

    Mental disability: The player cannot render his playing services as a direct result of a mental disability.
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Some salaries are only partially guaranteed, and/or the guaranteed amount can change based on certain conditions. For example, the salary in the final season of a player's contract might be unprotected for lack of skill, with the protection changing to full if the team has not requested waivers on the player (see question number 64) prior to the team's first regular season game of that season1. The protection can even be tied to performance benchmarks -- for example a player's guaranteed amount might increase if he played 1,600 minutes the previous season. For contracts and extensions signed under the current CBA, guarantees can be contingent only upon one of the following:

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Re: Bol Bol's next contract 

Post#20 » by wolves_89 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:24 am

My guess would be a 2 year minimum deal with only the first year guaranteed.

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