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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#161 » by gojoorange » Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:41 pm

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Indeed wrote:


He's like a Rich Man's Tyrus Thomas!


WOW :lol: :lol: :lol:

That was quite the squad LSU had with Tyrus, Big Baby Davis and Garrett Temple.


He gives me a Onyeka Okongwu vibes somewhat. The shooting isn't great but his defensive play so far has been absurd. I'll be watching the game against Auburn on the 29th, let's see how he does against a top prospect like Jabari Smith.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#162 » by will » Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:45 pm

gojoorange wrote:
will wrote:
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He's like a Rich Man's Tyrus Thomas!


WOW :lol: :lol: :lol:

That was quite the squad LSU had with Tyrus, Big Baby Davis and Garrett Temple.


He gives me a Onyeka Okongwu vibes somewhat. The shooting isn't great but his defensive play so far has been absurd. I'll be watching the game against Auburn on the 29th, let's see how he does against a top prospect like Jabari Smith.


The Hawks drafted a nice player in Okongwu. Learning with Capela...gonna be real interesting to watch him break out at some point during the next 2-4 seasons.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#163 » by gojoorange » Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:49 pm

will wrote:
gojoorange wrote:
will wrote:
WOW :lol: :lol: :lol:

That was quite the squad LSU had with Tyrus, Big Baby Davis and Garrett Temple.


He gives me a Onyeka Okongwu vibes somewhat. The shooting isn't great but his defensive play so far has been absurd. I'll be watching the game against Auburn on the 29th, let's see how he does against a top prospect like Jabari Smith.


The Hawks drafted a nice player in Okongwu. Learning with Capela...gonna be real interesting to watch him break out at some point during the next 2-4 seasons.


100%. All about opportunity for him.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#164 » by will » Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:51 pm

gojoorange wrote:
will wrote:
gojoorange wrote:
He gives me a Onyeka Okongwu vibes somewhat. The shooting isn't great but his defensive play so far has been absurd. I'll be watching the game against Auburn on the 29th, let's see how he does against a top prospect like Jabari Smith.


The Hawks drafted a nice player in Okongwu. Learning with Capela...gonna be real interesting to watch him break out at some point during the next 2-4 seasons.


100%. All about opportunity for him.


It was fun times at Chino Hills with the Ball brothers as well.

Jabari Smith will be eating, though.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#165 » by Syd-TK3 » Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:59 pm

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Syd-TK3 wrote:Really wish masai woulda took BJ Boston instead of Johnson


They went with defensive versatility over offensive potential. Maybe Boston becomes a microwave scorer off the bench?

Maybe DJ becomes a bigger version of Jalen Brunson, who is now starting for the Mavs?


I believe Johnson is projected to be a better shooter and passer than Boston.

As for measurement, Boston didn't have the Combine record, but some website has him with 37.5 max vertical, which is lower than David Johnson at 39. Wingspan are the same, around 6'10 to 6'11. So on paper, David Johnson should be better, no? What exactly is Boston better than Johnson?

It's not about what they were currently better at during the draft but potential. BJ has way more as a self creator and scorer. He's shown flashes of why he was originally rated so high in highscool.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#166 » by God Squad » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:30 am

Syd-TK3 wrote:
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They went with defensive versatility over offensive potential. Maybe Boston becomes a microwave scorer off the bench?

Maybe DJ becomes a bigger version of Jalen Brunson, who is now starting for the Mavs?


I believe Johnson is projected to be a better shooter and passer than Boston.

As for measurement, Boston didn't have the Combine record, but some website has him with 37.5 max vertical, which is lower than David Johnson at 39. Wingspan are the same, around 6'10 to 6'11. So on paper, David Johnson should be better, no? What exactly is Boston better than Johnson?

It's not about what they were currently better at during the draft but potential. BJ has way more as a self creator and scorer. He's shown flashes of why he was originally rated so high in highscool.

Most teams passed on him. Potential only gets you so far, and at some point we need tangible proof or evidence. Plenty of highly rated prospects fail at college, find their footing in the league and still wash out (Skal Labissière, Thomas Robinson and Deyonta Davis. TBH too many to name. Anyways I'm not a fan of Johnson either, just saying "potential" only gets you so far.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#167 » by Madhouse » Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:06 pm

God Squad wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
Indeed wrote:
I believe Johnson is projected to be a better shooter and passer than Boston.

As for measurement, Boston didn't have the Combine record, but some website has him with 37.5 max vertical, which is lower than David Johnson at 39. Wingspan are the same, around 6'10 to 6'11. So on paper, David Johnson should be better, no? What exactly is Boston better than Johnson?

It's not about what they were currently better at during the draft but potential. BJ has way more as a self creator and scorer. He's shown flashes of why he was originally rated so high in highscool.

Most teams passed on him. Potential only gets you so far, and at some point we need tangible proof or evidence. Plenty of highly rated prospects fail at college, find their footing in the league and still wash out (Skal Labissière, Thomas Robinson and Deyonta Davis. TBH too many to name. Anyways I'm not a fan of Johnson either, just saying "potential" only gets you so far.


Johnson was a wasted pick but not many mid 2nd rounders pan out anyway. Not sure about Brandon Boston. But I feel he is a longshot to be even a decent player in the NBA.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#168 » by Psubs » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:03 pm

Madhouse wrote:
God Squad wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:It's not about what they were currently better at during the draft but potential. BJ has way more as a self creator and scorer. He's shown flashes of why he was originally rated so high in highscool.

Most teams passed on him. Potential only gets you so far, and at some point we need tangible proof or evidence. Plenty of highly rated prospects fail at college, find their footing in the league and still wash out (Skal Labissière, Thomas Robinson and Deyonta Davis. TBH too many to name. Anyways I'm not a fan of Johnson either, just saying "potential" only gets you so far.


Johnson was a wasted pick but not many mid 2nd rounders pan out anyway. Not sure about Brandon Boston. But I feel he is a longshot to be even a decent player in the NBA.


DJ seems to be progressing like FVV in year 1 with the 905. Don't give up on him like GPII who is now shooting decent from 3.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#169 » by B-Ball Freak » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:12 pm

Lol already a ''wasted pick'' with his rookie season not even being halfway over
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Post#170 » by Indeed » Mon Dec 27, 2021 7:46 pm

Psubs wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
God Squad wrote:Most teams passed on him. Potential only gets you so far, and at some point we need tangible proof or evidence. Plenty of highly rated prospects fail at college, find their footing in the league and still wash out (Skal Labissière, Thomas Robinson and Deyonta Davis. TBH too many to name. Anyways I'm not a fan of Johnson either, just saying "potential" only gets you so far.


Johnson was a wasted pick but not many mid 2nd rounders pan out anyway. Not sure about Brandon Boston. But I feel he is a longshot to be even a decent player in the NBA.


DJ seems to be progressing like FVV in year 1 with the 905. Don't give up on him like GPII who is now shooting decent from 3.


I was hoping we keep GPII, but he wasn't shooting well. I guess Golden States did a better job in developing his 3 point shot.

As for Johnson, he is more a safe pick when we take a risk on Banton. The difference between Johnson and Boston is that they play a different position though, and Johnson was more a 3 point shooter, which is kind of our need.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#171 » by Syd-TK3 » Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:19 pm

God Squad wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
Indeed wrote:
I believe Johnson is projected to be a better shooter and passer than Boston.

As for measurement, Boston didn't have the Combine record, but some website has him with 37.5 max vertical, which is lower than David Johnson at 39. Wingspan are the same, around 6'10 to 6'11. So on paper, David Johnson should be better, no? What exactly is Boston better than Johnson?

It's not about what they were currently better at during the draft but potential. BJ has way more as a self creator and scorer. He's shown flashes of why he was originally rated so high in highscool.

Most teams passed on him. Potential only gets you so far, and at some point we need tangible proof or evidence. Plenty of highly rated prospects fail at college, find their footing in the league and still wash out (Skal Labissière, Thomas Robinson and Deyonta Davis. TBH too many to name. Anyways I'm not a fan of Johnson either, just saying "potential" only gets you so far.

My main thought process is if the team has had such a good track record on turning low expectations players into something good why not try it with someone who already showcased the potential just needs the right situation
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#172 » by Kevin Willis » Mon Dec 27, 2021 10:28 pm

Madhouse wrote:
God Squad wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:It's not about what they were currently better at during the draft but potential. BJ has way more as a self creator and scorer. He's shown flashes of why he was originally rated so high in highscool.

Most teams passed on him. Potential only gets you so far, and at some point we need tangible proof or evidence. Plenty of highly rated prospects fail at college, find their footing in the league and still wash out (Skal Labissière, Thomas Robinson and Deyonta Davis. TBH too many to name. Anyways I'm not a fan of Johnson either, just saying "potential" only gets you so far.


Johnson was a wasted pick but not many mid 2nd rounders pan out anyway. Not sure about Brandon Boston. But I feel he is a longshot to be even a decent player in the NBA.


Wait what? David Johnson is not a wasted picked, you should give him AT LEAST one season. If that that's the case then Suggs is a wasted pick.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#173 » by Indeed » Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:11 am

Syd-TK3 wrote:
God Squad wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:It's not about what they were currently better at during the draft but potential. BJ has way more as a self creator and scorer. He's shown flashes of why he was originally rated so high in highscool.

Most teams passed on him. Potential only gets you so far, and at some point we need tangible proof or evidence. Plenty of highly rated prospects fail at college, find their footing in the league and still wash out (Skal Labissière, Thomas Robinson and Deyonta Davis. TBH too many to name. Anyways I'm not a fan of Johnson either, just saying "potential" only gets you so far.

My main thought process is if the team has had such a good track record on turning low expectations players into something good why not try it with someone who already showcased the potential just needs the right situation


I think the team has good track record on turning low expectation players into something, but the good track record may not even be 50%.
Second round picks: DeAndre Daniels, Dewan Hernandez, Jalen Harris
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#174 » by Syd-TK3 » Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:32 am

Indeed wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
God Squad wrote:Most teams passed on him. Potential only gets you so far, and at some point we need tangible proof or evidence. Plenty of highly rated prospects fail at college, find their footing in the league and still wash out (Skal Labissière, Thomas Robinson and Deyonta Davis. TBH too many to name. Anyways I'm not a fan of Johnson either, just saying "potential" only gets you so far.

My main thought process is if the team has had such a good track record on turning low expectations players into something good why not try it with someone who already showcased the potential just needs the right situation


I think the team has good track record on turning low expectation players into something, but the good track record may not even be 50%.
Second round picks: DeAndre Daniels, Dewan Hernandez, Jalen Harris

I mean it's unfair to judge but all signs were pointing towards Jalen Harris becoming a pretty good player
The rest I agree. Although Dewan was basically injured nonstop
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Post#175 » by Psubs » Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:07 am

Indeed wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
God Squad wrote:Most teams passed on him. Potential only gets you so far, and at some point we need tangible proof or evidence. Plenty of highly rated prospects fail at college, find their footing in the league and still wash out (Skal Labissière, Thomas Robinson and Deyonta Davis. TBH too many to name. Anyways I'm not a fan of Johnson either, just saying "potential" only gets you so far.

My main thought process is if the team has had such a good track record on turning low expectations players into something good why not try it with someone who already showcased the potential just needs the right situation


I think the team has good track record on turning low expectation players into something, but the good track record may not even be 50%.
Second round picks: DeAndre Daniels, Dewan Hernandez, Jalen Harris


Jalen Harris is coming back next year for Svi's spot.
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Post#176 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:31 am

Psubs wrote:
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Syd-TK3 wrote:My main thought process is if the team has had such a good track record on turning low expectations players into something good why not try it with someone who already showcased the potential just needs the right situation


I think the team has good track record on turning low expectation players into something, but the good track record may not even be 50%.
Second round picks: DeAndre Daniels, Dewan Hernandez, Jalen Harris


Jalen Harris is coming back next year for Svi's spot.


Can't wait for that.

Harris easily > Svi.... offensively he might even be more rounded than Gary.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#177 » by Psubs » Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:08 am

PhilBlackson wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Indeed wrote:
I think the team has good track record on turning low expectation players into something, but the good track record may not even be 50%.
Second round picks: DeAndre Daniels, Dewan Hernandez, Jalen Harris


Jalen Harris is coming back next year for Svi's spot.


Can't wait for that.

Harris easily > Svi.... offensively he might even be more rounded than Gary.


Harris has more hops and finishes at the rim better but Gary is the better shooter. Harris is able to play some PG.
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Post#178 » by Indeed » Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:35 am

Psubs wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Jalen Harris is coming back next year for Svi's spot.


Can't wait for that.

Harris easily > Svi.... offensively he might even be more rounded than Gary.


Harris has more hops and finishes at the rim better but Gary is the better shooter. Harris is able to play some PG.


I will have to wait for Harris to actually play more NBA minutes before I can conclude he can be ahead of anyone. I wouldn't count those end of season games where Flynn scores very well and everyone think he would be a starter in some years.

I am also looking forward to the draft. If Mathurin and Griffin are gone, Davison is someone I will look at as well. But after lottery, those are more 3&D prospects, so will see if we are lucky to find someone that can fill our needs.
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Post#179 » by Dalek » Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:05 pm

Reeko wrote:Holmgren's stats so far this season: 13 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 2 apg, and 3.5 blocks on 63/37/71 shooting splits. If not for his lack of size he would be the ideal modern center. I'm really praying that this kid doesn't have Marfan's Syndrome.


Why do you think Chet would have Marfan's? His dad is also 7ft tall so I just think he is tall naturally rather than having a rare genetic mutation.

To me he is like a Rudy Gobert body-type. Just a huge skinny body that in time will fill out as he gets older. Rudy also looked like a stick coming in, and it didn't stop him.

Chet is an extremely skilled defender and just like Evan Mobley he will be able to hang in the NBA right away despite the lack of weight.
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Re: Official 2022 Draft Thread 

Post#180 » by Dalek » Wed Dec 29, 2021 6:09 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
God Squad wrote:Most teams passed on him. Potential only gets you so far, and at some point we need tangible proof or evidence. Plenty of highly rated prospects fail at college, find their footing in the league and still wash out (Skal Labissière, Thomas Robinson and Deyonta Davis. TBH too many to name. Anyways I'm not a fan of Johnson either, just saying "potential" only gets you so far.


Johnson was a wasted pick but not many mid 2nd rounders pan out anyway. Not sure about Brandon Boston. But I feel he is a longshot to be even a decent player in the NBA.


Wait what? David Johnson is not a wasted picked, you should give him AT LEAST one season. If that that's the case then Suggs is a wasted pick.


I think we have to give David Johnson some time. He has had a couple injuries and then strange time with the 905 where he was given the reigns for a few games and then Dalano and Flynn showed up and took away from his time as a starter.

He has great size and skill to be a future PG and at age 20 that has some time to develop.

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