Chris Paul and the Warriors

ILOVEIT · Post #1 » by **ILOVEIT** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:31 am

Got to kind of feel sorry for this dude. 2014 and he had a great team while on the Clippers. THEY had just beaten the Warriors in the first round and THEY were the next big thing. Lob city.

Warriors went on to destroy them for the next three years. I mean it was complete ownage.

Then he joins Houston. Houston puts together THE team to beat the Warriors.
Fully healthy, Warriors knock them out of the playoffs.
Then CP3 and Houston looks like they are about to FINALLY beat the Warriors ...and Chris pulls a hamstring....

That brings us to tomorrow night's matchup. Will Chris Paul finally get over on the Warriors curse? Will the Warriors knock Chris Paul's team out of the West in the conference finals?

Going to be interesting to see if CP3 can finally get over on Curry and the Warriors.

Post #2 » by **Michael Jackson** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:36 am

ILOVEIT wrote:Got to kind of feel sorry for this dude. 2014 and he had a great team while on the Clippers. THEY had just beaten the Warriors in the first round and THEY were the next big thing. Lob city.

Warriors went on to destroy them for the next three years. I mean it was complete ownage.

Then he joins Houston. Houston puts together THE team to beat the Warriors.
Fully healthy, Warriors knock them out of the playoffs.
Then CP3 and Houston looks like they are about to FINALLY beat the Warriors ...and Chris pulls a hamstring....

That brings us to tomorrow night's matchup. Will Chris Paul finally get over on the Warriors curse? Will the Warriors knock Chris Paul's team out of the West in the conference finals?

Going to be interesting to see if CP3 can finally get over on Curry and the Warriors.

Don’t think that is settled tomorrow night.

Wasn’t just CP3 though. The warriors were killers.

Tottery · Post #3 » by **Tottery** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:43 am

It's a regular season game, but I expect a great game. It will be one of those 2 to come out of the west imo.

Lost92Bricks · Post #4 » by **Lost92Bricks** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:49 am

I'm tired of this narrative. The Warriors did this to everybody.

Harden, Lebron, Lillard, Westbrook, Durant (before he joined them), AD, the Spurs.

If you were in the west, the Warriors dominated you.

CP3 gave them their toughest fights. He is 9-9 against them in the playoffs. Beat them in 2014, up 3-2 against them in 2018 before getting injured and lost in 6 games the next year.

When he was in Houston, they were even with the Warriors (with KD) regular season and playoff-wise.

whatisacenter · Post #5 » by **whatisacenter** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:52 am

both of these teams have finals aspirations and that won't be decided tomorrow night. that should not take away from the excitement of the game tomorrow tho, I am pumped!

art_tatum · Post #6 » by **art_tatum** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:06 am

Cp3 is in the warriors dog house regardless of these two regular season games.
Poor dude also is in every curry highlight for that ankle break and the 3 that curry hits after dribbling through every clipper.
Might be the basketball gods cruel way to even things after his foul on the curry 3 that wasn't called. the one in the 2014 playoffs, game 3 at the end buzzer beating that would've changed the results of the series.

TwoStarz · Post #7 » by **TwoStarz** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:31 am

art_tatum wrote:Cp3 is in the warriors dog house regardless of these two regular season games.
Poor dude also is in every curry highlight for that ankle break and the 3 that curry hits after dribbling through every clipper.
Might be the basketball gods cruel way to even things after his foul on the curry 3 that wasn't called. the one in the 2014 playoffs, game 3 at the end buzzer beating that would've changed the results of the series.

Oh you’re right…I completely forgot about that game and that play. Cp3 being the sneaky dirtbag got away with it too. Would’ve probably lost that game and choked that series away like always does

dc · Post #8 » by dc » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:51 am

What's pretty hilarious is that Kent Bazemore clowning Blake for airballing a 3 in a regular season game is what started the Warriors-Clips rivalry. That was something else.

Clips beat the Warriors in 2014 in 7 games when the Warriors were down both their centers, which made a prime DeAndre look like Wilt at times. Mark Jackson got thoroughly outcoached by Doc for most of that series. Jackson was so clueless that Jermaine O'neal (in the twilight of his career) had to tell Jackson himself that he should take him out of the starting lineup, and the Warriors played better after that.

In 2015 we thought we'd see the rematch of that series. But what people forget is that the Clips did the Warriors a HUGE favor by taking out the defending champ Spurs in the 1st round that year. Blake looked like the best player in the playoffs in that 1st round and they won a pretty epic series. Unfortunately, they had no bench to speak of and they ran out of gas after being up 3-1 vs. the Rockets.

Clips had 4 strong starters with CP3, Reddick, DeAndre and Blake. But they lacked a bench and were weak on the wings. Unfortunately Doc was the coach/GM at the time and he failed to put together any kind of bench. Had they gotten some better depth/bench, they would've been true title contenders. They were extremely dumb to give Doc the GM job, as all he could muster up were guys like Paul Pierce and Turkoglu at the end of their rope.

Ballerhogger · Post #9 » by **Ballerhogger** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:56 am

One of the most dirtiest players I don’t feel bad for him.

DoItALL9 · Post #10 » by **DoItALL9** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:57 am

Warriors vs Suns will be great but both will struggle to stop the current in his prime Giannis if they make it to the Finals. The Warriors likely have a better chance of outscoring Milwaukee.

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Statlanta · Post #11 » by **Statlanta** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:07 am

Possession efficiency vs. shot efficiency.

It felt like the Warriors specifically were up for games in the Chris Paul Clippers era, to the tune of making unbelievable comebacks or blowing the team out on national TV more often than not.

The real shame of the rivalry is that both the PG's have had situational injury issues that impacted their legacy. One was solved with immense team depth and talent, the other was impacted by the normal salary cap structure of the NBA.

SpreeS · Post #12 » by **SpreeS** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:16 am

DoItALL9 wrote:Warriors vs Suns will be great but both will struggle to stop the current in his prime Giannis if they make it to the Finals. The Warriors likely have a better chance of outscoring Milwaukee.

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We have DPOY level player at PF position and by far the best defence in NBA.

RaptorPride · Post #13 » by **RaptorPride** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:53 am

Lost92Bricks wrote:I'm tired of this narrative. The Warriors did this to everybody.

Harden, Lebron, Lillard, Westbrook, Durant (before he joined them), AD, the Spurs.

If you were in the west, the Warriors dominated you.

CP3 gave them their toughest fights. He is 9-9 against them in the playoffs. Beat them in 2014, up 3-2 against them in 2018 before getting injured and lost in 6 games the next year.

When he was in Houston, they were even with the Warriors (with KD) regular season and playoff-wise.

I remember when Curry was just another prospect that was a good shooter. He would destroy Toronto whenever he played us but was never mentioned as a superstar in the making or anything. Just watching him from back then to what he has done now is crazy to think about. He used to go to school in Toronto so maybe he wanted to ball out in front of us since entering the league.

Post #14 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:57 am

A CP3 thread that starts off with "got to kind of feel sorry for the dude."

Ya, nope haha. When it comes to basketball related stuff, he is near the bottom of the list for guys that I will ever feel sorry for. Cant stand his attitude, might be the most pompous player in the league since he came into the league, and he has been one of the dirtiest players as well.

Dont get me wrong, this isn't me saying CP3 isn't an all time great PG and a lock HOF. Not me bashing his game what so ever, but ya he is one of the players I enjoy most seeing get eliminated every year.

Commodor · Post #15 » by **Commodor** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:59 am

DoItALL9 wrote:Warriors vs Suns will be great but both will struggle to stop the current in his prime Giannis if they make it to the Finals. The Warriors likely have a better chance of outscoring Milwaukee.

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I really like Giannis but the playoffs were decimated last year in both conferences. He did not face any of the top tier defenses except for maybe the opening round.

Although they stomped MIA it was definitely his worst performance of any series when he actually faced a decent defense (45% from the field v 57, *edit*60 & 61 there after). MIA’s offense was just a mess by that point.

MIL may still repeat but I’m far from convinced Giannis is unstoppable.

dhsilv2 · Post #16 » by **dhsilv2** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:14 am

Duke4life831 wrote:A CP3 thread that starts off with "got to kind of feel sorry for the dude."

Ya, nope haha. When it comes to basketball related stuff, he is near the bottom of the list for guys that I will ever feel sorry for. Cant stand his attitude, might be the most pompous player in the league since he came into the league, and he has been one of the dirtiest players as well.

Dont get me wrong, this isn't me saying CP3 isn't an all time great PG and a lock HOF. Not me bashing his game what so ever, but ya he is one of the players I enjoy most seeing get eliminated every year.

I think you can feel this way and STILL feel sorry for the player too. I hate and I mean hate shaq as a player. Hell, I'm not a fan of him as an analyst. But I respect him and I'm legit happy his career success mirrors his talent to enough of a degree. Mean while I wasn't a fan of KG at all either, maybe more so than Shaq and maybe you think KG is a top 20 vs a top 10 guy....either way his success sucks and I feel sorry for him. I also think he's a bumbling moron on tv today as an adult who should know more.

CP3 might be a guy you don't like and as a fan you want to fail....but when you look back on his career....I feel like you're not human if you don't think "wow....yeah he should have gotten more success...he just ran into the wrong success stories and wow that sucks". Same with stockton and malone *my least favorite duo ever".

Post #17 » by **floppymoose** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:13 am

I just hope CP tries to lock Curry out of the gym again, or says something to him. Then I'll feel confident.

Ballerhogger · Post #18 » by **Ballerhogger** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:22 am

dhsilv2 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:A CP3 thread that starts off with "got to kind of feel sorry for the dude."

Ya, nope haha. When it comes to basketball related stuff, he is near the bottom of the list for guys that I will ever feel sorry for. Cant stand his attitude, might be the most pompous player in the league since he came into the league, and he has been one of the dirtiest players as well.

Dont get me wrong, this isn't me saying CP3 isn't an all time great PG and a lock HOF. Not me bashing his game what so ever, but ya he is one of the players I enjoy most seeing get eliminated every year.

I think you can feel this way and STILL feel sorry for the player too. I hate and I mean hate shaq as a player. Hell, I'm not a fan of him as an analyst. But I respect him and I'm legit happy his career success mirrors his talent to enough of a degree. Mean while I wasn't a fan of KG at all either, maybe more so than Shaq and maybe you think KG is a top 20 vs a top 10 guy....either way his success sucks and I feel sorry for him. I also think he's a bumbling moron on tv today as an adult who should know more.

CP3 might be a guy you don't like and as a fan you want to fail....but when you look back on his career....I feel like you're not human if you don't think "wow....yeah he should have gotten more success...he just ran into the wrong success stories and wow that sucks". Same with stockton and malone *my least favorite duo ever".

Stockton was never dirty player like Paul was , he was tough but not like Paul and he didn’t flop like Paul did . Who helped innovate the flopping epidemic . Malone off court yes sick .. but on the court he was tough and fair player for the most part.

dcstanley · Post #19 » by **dcstanley** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:00 am

This Suns revival really highlights how insanely valuable of a player CP3 is (even at his advanced age). The only significant difference between the 19-20 Suns and last years iteration is some internal development and CP3 replacing Rubio and Oubre.

BoatsNZones · Post #20 » by **BoatsNZones** » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:21 am

dcstanley wrote:This Suns revival really highlights how insanely valuable of a player CP3 is (even at his advanced age). The only significant difference between the 19-20 Suns and last years iteration is some internal development and CP3 replacing Rubio and Oubre.

2nd to 3rd year Ayton + Bridges is pretty significant internal improvement though. We could already see that they were poised for a much better season from their bubble play. Losing Oubre is always a winning move for an NBA franchise as well.

CP is of course a nice addition to a young/growing team as a stabilizing force though, and I always thought his game was always going to age well as it’s so skill based. He’s been a formidable villain/punching bag for Curry and the Warriors over the years.

You would probably be surprised to see how weak his on/off splits for them are though. They were only slightly better with him on the floor in the regular season, and actually worse in the playoffs. This season they are worse with him on the floor. Not that net +/- is and end all stat (even for full seasons), but it does highlight that this is a strong Suns squad with or without him.