I fiddled with this for a good hour, but gave up in the end. This is what the unfinished product looks like. Anybody want to finish it, be my guest
Pacers out: Turner, LeVert
Pacers in: Murray, Young, FRP
Raptors out: Siakam
Raptors in: Wiseman, LeVert
Spurs out: Murray, Young
Spurs in: Siakam, Kuminga
Warriors out: Kuminga, Wiseman, FRP
Warriors in: Turner
(Out of principle, I feel like Raptors should flip Wiseman to Magic for Bamba and pick, because turning Wiseman into Bamba + pick was in the original idea from GoBobs, but I removed it for the sake of simplicity)
Why,
Warriors:
Consolidate three smaller assets into Turner, go for it this year
Spurs:
Sell high on Murray
Raptors:
Turn Siakam into Wiseman for better fit
Pacers:
Improve their backcourt
I consider this unfinished because I think the value is a little bit imbalanced. I feel that Spurs are getting too good a deal in terms of value, and Pacers could stand to get a bit more value
Pacers also now have a hole at 4 (the assumption is Young becomes their backup 4), and Spurs now lack a starting PG
Pacers would also rather flip the pick elsewhere, probably
I tried to rectify these problems, but yea I gave up
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This is really bad for raptors. I have levert as negative value (his play has been terrible) and wiseman is really unproven as well. We can do better elsewhere. Based on this it seems like you think Turner is worth Kuminga and a pick more than siakam which is well off to me.
I think toronto should be cutout altogether. Sounded like warriors asked about siakam in offseason (per rumors) and was rejected. i imagine this is worse than what they offered back then.
I think toronto should be cutout altogether. Sounded like warriors asked about siakam in offseason (per rumors) and was rejected. i imagine this is worse than what they offered back then.
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GSW would rather just take Siakam if it only costs Wiseman & a player like Levert. Kuminga is really not needed here at all other than for other teams to get more value for less.
Spurs just getting insanely too much value here.
Spurs just getting insanely too much value here.
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Godaddycurse wrote:This is really bad for raptors. I have levert as negative value (his play has been terrible) and wiseman is really unproven as well. We can do better elsewhere. Based on this it seems like you think Turner is worth Kuminga and a pick more than siakam which is well off to me.
I think toronto should be cutout altogether. Sounded like warriors asked about siakam in offseason (per rumors) and was rejected. i imagine this is worse than what they offered back then.
Commodor wrote:GSW would rather just take Siakam if it only costs Wiseman & a player like Levert. Kuminga is really not needed here at all other than for other teams to get more value for less.
Spurs just getting insanely too much value here.
So, basically Spurs owe compensation to Raptors?
Devin Vassell?
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Commodor wrote:GSW would rather just take Siakam if it only costs Wiseman & a player like Levert. Kuminga is really not needed here at all other than for other teams to get more value for less.
Spurs just getting insanely too much value here.
GS doesn't really have the matching to get Siakam (Wiggins/Klay are the options). Don't see them as a player for Siakam at this point.
I like Turner in GS, but price is too high for me (by a fair amount, I have GS needing a bad 1st back vs sending one out).
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eminence wrote:Commodor wrote:GSW would rather just take Siakam if it only costs Wiseman & a player like Levert. Kuminga is really not needed here at all other than for other teams to get more value for less.
Spurs just getting insanely too much value here.
GS doesn't really have the matching to get Siakam (Wiggins/Klay are the options). Don't see them as a player for Siakam at this point.
I like Turner in GS, but price is too high for me (by a fair amount, I have GS needing a bad 1st back vs sending one out).
Oh I agree, just in terms of OP it’s Siakam for Wiseman and Levert and I think GSW matches that and runs away with Kuminga in tow.
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Topofthekey wrote:Godaddycurse wrote:This is really bad for raptors. I have levert as negative value (his play has been terrible) and wiseman is really unproven as well. We can do better elsewhere. Based on this it seems like you think Turner is worth Kuminga and a pick more than siakam which is well off to me.
I think toronto should be cutout altogether. Sounded like warriors asked about siakam in offseason (per rumors) and was rejected. i imagine this is worse than what they offered back then.Commodor wrote:GSW would rather just take Siakam if it only costs Wiseman & a player like Levert. Kuminga is really not needed here at all other than for other teams to get more value for less.
Spurs just getting insanely too much value here.
So, basically Spurs owe compensation to Raptors?
Devin Vassell?
GSW and Raptors would not do this. Kuminga & Wiseman may be offered for Siakam (although I don’t even know if they would right now for a threads worth of reasons) but Turner doesn’t get that return and a first.
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Overkill for the Warriors. Pass.
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