McCollum to Pels

[jredsaz]

Blazers receive Josh Hart, Tomas Satoransky, one of Hayes, Kira, NWA or Murphy, and 2025 1st MIL (Lottery Protected then 2 2nds).

Pelicans receive CJ McCollum

Blazers receive immediate cap relief and get under the tax. They would gain a lot of flexibility this summer. Hart isnt the ideal floor spacer but he does just about everything else the Blazers really need. Blazers can also choose between an upside player on a rookie scale deal. Plus a pick, 2025 1st MIL OR 2025 2nd NOP and 2026 2nd POR.

Pels add a legit 20+ ppg player. McCollum takes pressure off of Ingram and Zion making them better, which is my #1 priority if I run the Pels. His two years left after 21/22 and $65 Million should be looked at as a plus for a team unable to attract free agents and that far ununder the luxury tax. I would love to see McCollum get this chance.

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[BuddyBuckets]

Graham/CJ/Ingram/Zion is so overly biased on offense and hopeless on defense. Bit of a meme team.

[Village Idiot]

I'd modify it a bit by going back to sending out Graham instead of Hart and including the Pistons who could use Devonte. Portland gets a guy they've been supposedly been coveting in Jerami Grant.

New Orleans trades:

Graham
Satoransky
Temple
Murphy
2022 Lakers 1st
2025 Milwaukee 1st

New Orleans receives

CJ McCollum
CJ Elleby
Trenton Watford

New Orleans keeps Hart who compliments McCollum well in the back-court.

Detroit trades:

Jerami Grant

Detroit receives

Graham
Satoransky
2022 Lakers 1st
2025 Milwaukee 1st

Portland trades:

CJ McCollum
CJ Elleby
Trenton Watford

Portland receives:

Jerami Grant
Temple
Murphy

Portland gets a better positional fit in Grant and cleans up the crowded back-court. They also send out $4.4 million less in cap hit than they receive thereby getting under the luxury tax threshold.

[jpengland]

McCollum has negative value. I don't see the Pels adding a pick.

He's also a pretty terrible fit on the Pels.

[daoneandonly]

McCollum has negative value. I don't see the Pels adding a pick.

He's also a pretty terrible fit on the Pels.

Egg Zack & Lee

Can't fathom how people continue to assign positive value to the guy

[Whole Truth]

If Philly/Nets had interest in swapping Simmons for McCullom I'd consider it.

If not, like the Pel fan above said, pass on the defensive fit. Zion/Ingram/Herb will be adequately filling the 2-4 roster spots.

If Philly were interested,IMO a swap for Simmons pass first game, defensive versatility would have a 2 fold benefit for NO's defensive issues. Jonas when teams go small at the 5 & Graham's lack of defensive length at PG against teams with strong PG play/posting possibility. Which compliments the core of Zion/BI/Herb on 2 defensive fronts.

Big rotation - (Jonas or Hayes / Zion / BI / Herb / Simmons -1)
Small ball - (Simmons -5 / Zion / BI / Herb / 3&D)

I have Simmons or Murray as NO's potential deadline targets. I think Fox would be too ball dominant a fit at too high a salary commitment. ALl things considered, with Simmons having a a similar salary obligation to Fox & spacing issues, he would still be my primary target because of his defensive versatility & pass first mentaility. His 1-5 versatilty would allow NO's to bolster 2 starting defensive weak links in different settings adjusted to pace. The 5 when teams go small to run Jonas off court or the 1 where he gives the team defensive perimeter length to an undersized Graham who can also be posted in matchups. Which means, worse case with SImmons acquisition & fit, he bolsters the defense for NO's on 2 primary fronts with his elite perimeter D & switchability, while adding the current need for another ball handler playmaker into the fold until Zion returns from injury where his pass first game comes into play over a ball dominant guard like Fox who needs the ball for his game to be effective. I could only see Fox as a serious option if there's belief that ZIon is gone..

Ingram is currently in a learning curve as the teams primary option with Zion out & he's showing considerable improvement in this aspect of his game with no real secondary option. As a result he garners triple teams because Graham is more floor spacer than floor general, where it's not hard to imagine him getting even better with time. Especially when considering Zion's potential return. It would mean he'd be drawing the primary attention. Also reason, to prefer Simmons defensive versatility & pass first mentality over a ball dominant guard that has shown he needs the ball to be at his best.

Since NO's 2-14 start dealing with considerable injuries, chemistry issues having new system, coach & roster TO in the midst of a top 3 SOS to date. NO's are currently (16-14) in theiir last 30 games, without Zion & as such, without their/any primary ball handler/playmaker outside Ingrams learning curve..

[Jon1798]

I think McCollum is a great fit for the Pels. But trading Josh Hart is a major tough pill to swallow. I don’t think I would want to trade Hart honestly, but maybe could see it as Hart but no first, or Graham and a first. And just for color, starting lineup would be CJ, Herb, Ingram, Zion and Jonas. Hart would be an essential swing/bench guy.

[BlazersBroncos]

I thin Hart and a FRP is a bit rich.

CJ, Snell, Elleby for Hart, Sato, Hayes, 2022 CLE SRP

Or better yet, make it bigger:

PDX OUT - CJ McCollum, Robert Covington, Tony Snell
PDX IN - Kevin Love, Josh Hart, 2022 CLE SRP, 2022 HOU SRP

NO OUT - Josh Hart, Tomas Satoransky, Jaxton Hayes, 2022 CLE SRP
NO IN - CJ McCollum, Tony Snell

CLE OUT - Kevin Love, 2022 HOU SRP
CLE IN - Robert Covington, Tomas Satoransky, Jaxton Hayes

PDX balances the roster.
NO gets their lead veteran guard.
CLE turns Love into EC, gets a 3/D and a bouncy backup C

[loserX]

If Hart is included, then maybe have the Blazers send Covington back into the Pels' TPE. That helps get Portland out of the tax and gives NOP a Hart replacement right away.

If Graham is included instead of Hart, I agree another team with real backup PG needs could be brought in.

Hayes made sense until yesterday: now he has 12 charges filed against him, some of them...very not good. Can't imagine a team trading for him unless the idea is to buy him out before the trade call is even finished.

[JRoy]

If Hart is included, then maybe have the Blazers send Covington back into the Pels' TPE. That helps get Portland out of the tax and gives NOP a Hart replacement right away.

If Graham is included instead of Hart, I agree another team with real backup PG needs could be brought in.

Hayes made sense until yesterday: now he has 12 charges filed against him, some of them...very not good. Can't imagine a team trading for him unless the idea is to buy him out before the trade call is even finished.

I could go for that for POR.

[jredsaz]

McCollum has negative value. I don't see the Pels adding a pick.

He's also a pretty terrible fit on the Pels.

I do not understand that perspective. McCollum is an excellent fit. Fully believe that better teams play better defense especially with young players like Zion and Ingram. Both players are fully capable. Jones is already an excellent defender. McCollum raises that teams cieling to a playoff team.

The pick is lottery protected and then 2 seconds. Its not a valuable first.

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[jredsaz]

Graham/CJ/Ingram/Zion is so overly biased on offense and hopeless on defense. Bit of a meme team.

Its a talented team. Graham would come off the bench. I would start McCollum, Jones, Ingram, Zion, and Val. McCollum and Zion share primary playmaking responsibilities. Just a much better team.

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[jredsaz]

McCollum has negative value. I don't see the Pels adding a pick.

He's also a pretty terrible fit on the Pels.

Egg Zack & Lee

Can't fathom how people continue to assign positive value to the guy

I get his contract is too big but as I said in the OP that shouldn't matter to NOLA. They have plenty of room under the tax and aren't a free agent destination.

CJ has 7 straight seasons of 20+/3+/3+ on decent efficiency. He has a ton of playoff experience. Excellent piece to elevate a young team.

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[BlazersBroncos]

If Hart is included, then maybe have the Blazers send Covington back into the Pels' TPE. That helps get Portland out of the tax and gives NOP a Hart replacement right away.

If Graham is included instead of Hart, I agree another team with real backup PG needs could be brought in.

Hayes made sense until yesterday: now he has 12 charges filed against him, some of them...very not good. Can't imagine a team trading for him unless the idea is to buy him out before the trade call is even finished.

Love this.

McCollum, Snell for Hart, Sato, Hayes, MIL 25’ FRP
Covington for TPE

[jredsaz]

I think McCollum is a great fit for the Pels. But trading Josh Hart is a major tough pill to swallow. I don’t think I would want to trade Hart honestly, but maybe could see it as Hart but no first, or Graham and a first. And just for color, starting lineup would be CJ, Herb, Ingram, Zion and Jonas. Hart would be an essential swing/bench guy.

I just dont see Graham having any value to the Blazers. The first is highly protected and most likely an end of the round first. Think people are over valuing the pick.

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[jredsaz]

If Hart is included, then maybe have the Blazers send Covington back into the Pels' TPE. That helps get Portland out of the tax and gives NOP a Hart replacement right away.

If Graham is included instead of Hart, I agree another team with real backup PG needs could be brought in.

Hayes made sense until yesterday: now he has 12 charges filed against him, some of them...very not good. Can't imagine a team trading for him unless the idea is to buy him out before the trade call is even finished.

I think the Co ington piece is genius and offsets people concerns about the first, white I also think people have massively overvalued in this thread. People don't read the OPs.

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[Mrakar]

I don't think Mcccollum has value. Maybe 2 years ago he did have, last year maybe neutral, this year negative for sure. Pels are not adding pick and trading Hart for a guy with negative value that also doesn't fit to the team (age and playstyle)...

[BuddyBuckets]

Graham/CJ/Ingram/Zion is so overly biased on offense and hopeless on defense. Bit of a meme team.

Its a talented team. Graham would come off the bench. I would start McCollum, Jones, Ingram, Zion, and Val. McCollum and Zion share primary playmaking responsibilities. Just a much better team.

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It's a tough sell to me. I don't see any of Zion, CJ, or Ingram being a primary ball handler in crunch time of a tight playoff game. Turnovers waiting to happen. It might be fair in terms of value. My objection is that it's the wrong direction as far as building a contender.

[jredsaz]

Graham/CJ/Ingram/Zion is so overly biased on offense and hopeless on defense. Bit of a meme team.

Its a talented team. Graham would come off the bench. I would start McCollum, Jones, Ingram, Zion, and Val. McCollum and Zion share primary playmaking responsibilities. Just a much better team.

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It's a tough sell to me. I don't see any of Zion, CJ, or Ingram being a primary ball handler in crunch time of a tight playoff game. Turnovers waiting to happen. It might be fair in terms of value. My objection is that it's the wrong direction as far as building a contender.

How about they get good enough to make a playoff game? I think they would absolutely be a better regular season than playoff team with this trade. However, if they can make the playoffs for two years the Pels have a ton of pics, youth and a $35 million expiring to go get a guy who can help them win playoff games.

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[jredsaz]

I don't think Mcccollum has value. Maybe 2 years ago he did have, last year maybe neutral, this year negative for sure. Pels are not adding pick and trading Hart for a guy with negative value that also doesn't fit to the team (age and playstyle)...

7 straight seasons of 20+/3+/3+. He is over paid. Absolutely. That doesn't mean he can't really help the Pels which equates to value.

Josh Hart is good. The rest of the deal isn't great. And did you read the protections on the pic that will probably end up in the late 20s anyway? Its not a deal with a lot of value.

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