Does Dallas Have Any Chance to Keep Brunson?

Black Mage · Post #1 » by **Black Mage** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:11 am

Jalen Brunson has been an under the radar player, but with Luka down and Mavs needing someone to carry the water he is blossoming early in these playoffs.

Brunson drops 24-7-5 in a Game 1 loss. Turns around and drops 41-8-5 in a Game 2 win where he basically carries the team on his back.

Brunson is an UFA, but Mavericks have bird rights. Do the Mavericks have any chance to keep him? Will Brunson want to continue to live in Luka's shadow? What will he be worth to other teams?

Post #2 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:14 am

All I know is money better not be the reason. If he leaves because he wants to be the primary PG, so be it. But no excuse for Cuban letting Detroit or ? win a money battle.

Black Mage · Post #3 » by **Black Mage** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:16 am

Texas Chuck wrote:All I know is money better not be the reason. If he leaves because he wants to be the primary PG, so be it. But no excuse for Cuban letting Detroit or ? win a money battle.

Problem is, Mavs have 151 mil on the books for next year b/c Luka's extension kicks in.

Tor_Raps · Post #4 » by **Tor_Raps** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:16 am

Probably an unpopular opinion... Brunson looks good now but whichever team pays him will probably regret it almost immediately. He is too inconsistent to be making big money. Just my 2 cents.

Tor_Raps · Post #5 » by **Tor_Raps** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:18 am

Black Mage wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:All I know is money better not be the reason. If he leaves because he wants to be the primary PG, so be it. But no excuse for Cuban letting Detroit or ? win a money battle.

Problem is, Mavs have 151 mil on the books for next year b/c Luka's extension kicks in.

How can the Mavs have 151M on the books with so many holes on the roster? Lol

MindState · Post #6 » by **MindState** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:19 am

Brunson is a certified nba star. Mavs should do whatever they can to keep him.

Black Mage · Post #7 » by **Black Mage** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:19 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
Black Mage wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:All I know is money better not be the reason. If he leaves because he wants to be the primary PG, so be it. But no excuse for Cuban letting Detroit or ? win a money battle.

Problem is, Mavs have 151 mil on the books for next year b/c Luka's extension kicks in.

How can the Mavs have 151M on the books with so many holes on the roster? Lol

54 mil committed to Dinwiddie, Hardaway Jr and Bertans... ouch.

Post #8 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:20 am

Black Mage wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:All I know is money better not be the reason. If he leaves because he wants to be the primary PG, so be it. But no excuse for Cuban letting Detroit or ? win a money battle.

Problem is, Mavs have 151 mil on the books for next year b/c Luka's extension kicks in.

Cuban hasn't paid tax since the championship team. Not a single time. And he has assured the fanbase he would again when he has a team that warrants it. Well he has one now.

And the Mavs have some places to trim payroll without it costing too much in assets. Boban, Burke, and Brown all make $3M plus next year. None of them have been in the rotation in months. So cash/2nds and dump them. Saves $4-5M if you replace them with min contract guys. If you pay Brunson, you probably try and unload Dinwiddie on one of those PG needy teams who didn't get Brunson and try and save some salary there. Then Powell and Kleber have over $20M coming off the books the next year.

You bite the bullet and pay tax next year, knowing you can duck it in 23/24 if you really want to.

But Cuban can afford the tax bills for next year.

celticfan42487 · Post #9 » by **celticfan42487** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:24 am

Hmm, from what I can find the teams with capspace will be:

Magic
Pistons
Pacers
Spurs
Blazers

Of those teams Blazers, Spurs, Pacers, Pistons already surely have the PG position locked up.

Would he goto the Magic? Maybe so he can prove how far he can go as the starting PG on a team. He'd probably instantly be their #1 option.

Swish1906 · Post #10 » by **Swish1906** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:24 am

Rumours from the good Mavs sources say Brunson wants to stay and wont sign for a losing team. Read also they have allready kind of a ballpark. Depending on the playoffs probably now at the higher end of the ballpark. Probably around 4/90.

They will re-sign him and trade THJ.and try to dump the 10m of Burke/Boban/Brown with tanking teams.

They are not letting him walk and he wont give up his starter spot at an almost contender for a team like the Pistons because he would get there 100 instead of 90m etc.

Dude is a winner since college

shangrila · Post #11 » by **shangrila** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:26 am

Texas Chuck wrote:
Black Mage wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:All I know is money better not be the reason. If he leaves because he wants to be the primary PG, so be it. But no excuse for Cuban letting Detroit or ? win a money battle.

Problem is, Mavs have 151 mil on the books for next year b/c Luka's extension kicks in.

Cuban hasn't paid tax since the championship team. Not a single time. And he has assured the fanbase he would again when he has a team that warrants it. Well he has one now.

And the Mavs have some places to trim payroll without it costing too much in assets. Boban, Burke, and Brown all make $3M plus next year. None of them have been in the rotation in months. So cash/2nds and dump them. Saves $4-5M if you replace them with min contract guys. If you pay Brunson, you probably try and unload Dinwiddie on one of those PG needy teams who didn't get Brunson and try and save some salary there. Then Powell and Kleber have over $20M coming off the books the next year.

You bite the bullet and pay tax next year, knowing you can duck it in 23/24 if you really want to.

But Cuban can afford the tax bills for next year.

Do they, though?

If the criteria is championship contenders only then I can't say this roster would hit that mark.

Swish1906 · Post #12 » by **Swish1906** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:29 am

shangrila wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Black Mage wrote:
Problem is, Mavs have 151 mil on the books for next year b/c Luka's extension kicks in.

Cuban hasn't paid tax since the championship team. Not a single time. And he has assured the fanbase he would again when he has a team that warrants it. Well he has one now.

And the Mavs have some places to trim payroll without it costing too much in assets. Boban, Burke, and Brown all make $3M plus next year. None of them have been in the rotation in months. So cash/2nds and dump them. Saves $4-5M if you replace them with min contract guys. If you pay Brunson, you probably try and unload Dinwiddie on one of those PG needy teams who didn't get Brunson and try and save some salary there. Then Powell and Kleber have over $20M coming off the books the next year.

You bite the bullet and pay tax next year, knowing you can duck it in 23/24 if you really want to.

But Cuban can afford the tax bills for next year.

Do they, though?

If the criteria is championship contenders only then I can't say this roster would hit that mark.

They are one solid FC upgrade away from true contender status. In 2023 they can trade Green, their 2022 FRP player and a bunch of future FRP

Post #13 » by **zimpy27** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:34 am

I think he will get $104m-116m over 4 years, which is 20-22% of the salary cap.

Dallas can offer the 8% raises or the 5 years..

meekrab · Post #14 » by **meekrab** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:35 am

Any GM without a certified stud PG should be bidding on Brunson IMO. He's got MIP talent just waiting to be given a consistent starting role.

SupaManu · Post #15 » by **SupaManu** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:35 am

I don’t think Dallas is really close to being a serious contender but you have to keep Brunson

Post #16 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:39 am

Mavs have the lowest payroll in the last 5 years, and have 30 millions in expiring next year, money will not be an issue

Post #17 » by **zimpy27** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:40 am

Dallas will keep Brunsons.. They likely trade their FRP with Bertans for a team to take on his contract.

MemphisX · Post #18 » by **MemphisX** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:42 am

SupaManu wrote:I don’t think Dallas is really close to being a serious contender but you have to keep Brunson

As long as they have Luka, they are one move away. Not a fantasy move either. Just can't let Brunson walk for nothing. At worse, you sign and trade him to a team of his choice.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #19 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:44 am

He's probably going to get as much, if not more, than VanVleet, who I think got 4 yr/85 mil. and Brunson is the more efficient player between the two.

ForeverTFC · Post #20 » by **ForeverTFC** » Tue Apr 19, 2022 3:52 am

Swish1906 wrote:Rumours from the good Mavs sources say Brunson wants to stay and wont sign for a losing team. Read also they have allready kind of a ballpark. Depending on the playoffs probably now at the higher end of the ballpark. Probably around 4/90.

They will re-sign him and trade THJ.and try to dump the 10m of Burke/Boban/Brown with tanking teams.

They are not letting him walk and he wont give up his starter spot at an almost contender for a team like the Pistons because he would get there 100 instead of 90m etc.

Dude is a winner since college

From what I've heard and read, he wants to stay but he's not giving a substantial discount.

Mavs definitely have to pay the tax and re-sign him. Only other option for them is a sign and trade but I don't see any appealing trade candidate for the Mavs for them to prefer this route. It probably won't be a bargain contract but unless he underperforms bad (as you said, he's been a winner everywhere he's been so chances low of a huge regression), it is a very tradable contract. If we look at the Mavs cap book, they need to resign him just to have that contract on their books to give them optionality for future trades. I don't see how he's not re-signed to be honest.