When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
Moderators: Harry Garris, ken6199, Dirk, bisme37, KingDavid, bwgood77, zimpy27, cupcakesnake, Domejandro, infinite11285
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
- Bruin
- RealGM
- Posts: 24,507
- And1: 38,641
- Joined: Mar 11, 2018
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
He’s not going anywhere. They’ll just keep bringing in superstars to see how many he can underachieve with and how many he can throw under the bus. Off to a solid start at the age of 28
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
- SelfishPlayer
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,251
- And1: 2,689
- Joined: May 23, 2014
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
Lockdown504090 wrote:Black Jack wrote:If the Warriors can't contend without a big man I feel like they have the assets and are a desirable destination for Embiid, should he decide to exit Philly.
The entire strategy of switching defense against the warriors goes up in smoke. it could possibly be more overpowerd than getting durant. Embiid sucks as a roll man though, so he would have to learn a lot about playing off the ball and would have to improve a lot. Durant kinda did while he was there too though.
Embiid wouldn't have to learn anything to play with the Warriors.
SelfishPlayer wrote:The Mavs won playoff games without Luka
The Mavs missed the playoffs without Brunson.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- Freshman
- Posts: 72
- And1: 46
- Joined: Mar 17, 2022
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
Embiid hasn’t been a great playoff performer during his career. Some of the that has been injuries but part of the game is having the ability to stay healthy when your team needs you must. He is like AD in that regard. I can’t remember an important playoff game where Embiid really shined.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- Sophomore
- Posts: 234
- And1: 141
- Joined: Sep 14, 2021
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
Maybe at some point he demands a trade to the Heat to play with his boy Butler.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
- DroseReturnChi
- RealGM
- Posts: 10,087
- And1: 3,142
- Joined: Feb 12, 2012
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
dlts20 wrote:I hate threads like this, like everyone is entitled to a title or has to have all the help in the world. Dude has played with Harden, Maxey, Harris, Simmons, and butler. That's plenty of help and he's been on good teams. Sick of this soft entitled generation that wants to give people titles. Earn it like Giannis
guys like butler and giannis dont grow on trees. that like 1 out of 100. joel is probably exposing his true himself. he was never a competitor almost quit in college too after getting destroyed.
Doncic will be goat. Lauri will be his sidekick.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- RealGM
- Posts: 22,399
- And1: 14,041
- Joined: May 01, 2014
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
Oft injured- he won’t get a ring with harden - if they keep harden he should ask out tomorrow
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- Rookie
- Posts: 1,081
- And1: 795
- Joined: Jan 09, 2014
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
jfs1000d wrote:Lol. This is a comical thread title. Who he Ginna Go to?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Well after sixers announced they will work to sign Harden multiyear and Doc is back..its not comical anymore..
Imagine they have similar play offs next year and Harden disappointing/giving up on the team again..
We are that close to this scenario becoming a reality..and the scenario is very realistic you have to admit.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- Rookie
- Posts: 1,081
- And1: 795
- Joined: Jan 09, 2014
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
Blazingstorm wrote:Maybe at some point he demands a trade to the Heat to play with his boy Butler.
His countryman Siakam could talk him to join him and get the ring.
VanVleet, OG Annouby, Boucher 1st rnd pick out
Embid in
Barnes -Siakam - Embid = NBA finals and shot to win it all 2-3times..
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- Starter
- Posts: 2,450
- And1: 1,174
- Joined: May 31, 2012
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
After next season after he goes out with another injury and 4 years at around 50per owing - good luck buyers
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
- hauntedcomputer
- Veteran
- Posts: 2,565
- And1: 3,843
- Joined: Apr 18, 2021
- Contact:
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
After the bus has rolled over seven more teammates.
+++
Schadenfreude is undefeated.
Schadenfreude is undefeated.
sixers4real wrote:Okay, GB, I hate you, but I’m bored.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 7,691
- And1: 3,909
- Joined: Nov 08, 2016
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
dlts20 wrote:I hate threads like this, like everyone is entitled to a title or has to have all the help in the world. Dude has played with Harden, Maxey, Harris, Simmons, and butler. That's plenty of help and he's been on good teams. Sick of this soft entitled generation that wants to give people titles. Earn it like Giannis
Giannis earned it. But come on if you don’t think a little fortunate luck helps also last year for him like KD shoes on the line. It’s a very thin line between winning and losing during championship runs.
Teams (besides the golden state KD era) are very evenly matched these days.
Embiid needs some fortunate things to happen to him to keep him healthy. Some lucky bounces will help also.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
- Raps in 4
- RealGM
- Posts: 61,949
- And1: 54,576
- Joined: Nov 01, 2008
- Location: Toronto
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
kuclas wrote:dlts20 wrote:I hate threads like this, like everyone is entitled to a title or has to have all the help in the world. Dude has played with Harden, Maxey, Harris, Simmons, and butler. That's plenty of help and he's been on good teams. Sick of this soft entitled generation that wants to give people titles. Earn it like Giannis
Giannis earned it. But come on if you don’t think a little fortunate luck helps also last year for him like KD shoes on the line. It’s a very thin line between winning and losing during championship runs.
Teams (besides the golden state KD era) are very evenly matched these days.
Embiid needs some fortunate things to happen to him to keep him healthy. Some lucky bounces will help also.
Giannis has already been to the ECF or further twice, with less help than Embiid. Jokic has been to the WCF with less help than Embiid.
If Embiid wants to be compared to these guys, he needs to step it up in the playoffs. It's that simple. He's failed to get past the second round in 5 straight playoffs now. That isn't bad luck. It's a pattern.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- Starter
- Posts: 2,144
- And1: 1,818
- Joined: Aug 27, 2003
- Location: Land of Milk and Honey
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
Raps in 4 wrote:kuclas wrote:dlts20 wrote:I hate threads like this, like everyone is entitled to a title or has to have all the help in the world. Dude has played with Harden, Maxey, Harris, Simmons, and butler. That's plenty of help and he's been on good teams. Sick of this soft entitled generation that wants to give people titles. Earn it like Giannis
Giannis earned it. But come on if you don’t think a little fortunate luck helps also last year for him like KD shoes on the line. It’s a very thin line between winning and losing during championship runs.
Teams (besides the golden state KD era) are very evenly matched these days.
Embiid needs some fortunate things to happen to him to keep him healthy. Some lucky bounces will help also.
Giannis has already been to the ECF or further twice, with less help than Embiid. Jokic has been to the WCF with less help than Embiid.
If Embiid wants to be compared to these guys, he needs to step it up in the playoffs. It's that simple. He's failed to get past the second round in 5 straight playoffs now. That isn't bad luck. It's a pattern.
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,156
- And1: 5,118
- Joined: Oct 04, 2002
- Location: At the Border
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
I love that we just want players to quit every time there is a bump in the road.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
- ocelot17
- Starter
- Posts: 2,441
- And1: 3,829
- Joined: Feb 28, 2010
- Location: Houston, Tx
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
vulture wrote:I love that we just want players to quit every time there is a bump in the road.
It’s the millennial mentality. Millennial athletes believe they are entitled to winning championships and if things don’t go their way, they quit.
Everyone wants a participation trophy because they tried really hard, but they can’t accept that sometimes their best is just not good enough.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- General Manager
- Posts: 7,691
- And1: 3,909
- Joined: Nov 08, 2016
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
Raps in 4 wrote:kuclas wrote:dlts20 wrote:I hate threads like this, like everyone is entitled to a title or has to have all the help in the world. Dude has played with Harden, Maxey, Harris, Simmons, and butler. That's plenty of help and he's been on good teams. Sick of this soft entitled generation that wants to give people titles. Earn it like Giannis
Giannis earned it. But come on if you don’t think a little fortunate luck helps also last year for him like KD shoes on the line. It’s a very thin line between winning and losing during championship runs.
Teams (besides the golden state KD era) are very evenly matched these days.
Embiid needs some fortunate things to happen to him to keep him healthy. Some lucky bounces will help also.
Giannis has already been to the ECF or further twice, with less help than Embiid. Jokic has been to the WCF with less help than Embiid.
If Embiid wants to be compared to these guys, he needs to step it up in the playoffs. It's that simple. He's failed to get past the second round in 5 straight playoffs now. That isn't bad luck. It's a pattern.
It takes a little luck man. U really think if Jamal Murray didn’t go nuts in 2020 that Jokic would be in the same boat as embiid. Who’s to Jokic would have even made it to wcf in 2020 cause clippers would have had home court in a real playoff setting. And Jokic lost as 2 seed to Portland in 2019
If harden or butler or Simmons can average 36 points like Murray for nuggets to escape utah or another 26 points to escape the clippers.
Giannis failed in 2019 and 2020 as higher seed as well
Embiid team outside of 2021 when they were higher seed. Every other year they lost as lower seed.
So 4 out of 5 seeds they lost as lower seed.
Giannis lost as higher seed 2 out of the last 3 playoffs.
Giannis may not escape Boston this season in the second round.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,722
- And1: 6,326
- Joined: May 28, 2020
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
The problem with PHI is all of the assets they've burned through around Embiid for such a flawed top of the roster.
You drafted Ben Simmons and then his value dropped to the point where you had to add value to him to get Harden, who just does not seem to be in his prime anymore. You traded for a good, not great Tobias Harris and invested huge money in him. You traded for Jimmy Butler but then let him walk for Josh Richardson who was a bad fit. You used a salary slot on Al Horford that you then had to pay a future pick to dump the contract. A spectacular fail with the Fultz pick. They turned half a decade worth of draft picks and all their cap space around Embiid into a declining Harden and a never-THAT-good Tobias Harris on massive deals.
The fact that Maxey looks like a budding star is legitimately franchise saving. If not for that, things would not be looking good in PHI. but the Maxey pick honestly saves their bacon if he can continue to grow.
You drafted Ben Simmons and then his value dropped to the point where you had to add value to him to get Harden, who just does not seem to be in his prime anymore. You traded for a good, not great Tobias Harris and invested huge money in him. You traded for Jimmy Butler but then let him walk for Josh Richardson who was a bad fit. You used a salary slot on Al Horford that you then had to pay a future pick to dump the contract. A spectacular fail with the Fultz pick. They turned half a decade worth of draft picks and all their cap space around Embiid into a declining Harden and a never-THAT-good Tobias Harris on massive deals.
The fact that Maxey looks like a budding star is legitimately franchise saving. If not for that, things would not be looking good in PHI. but the Maxey pick honestly saves their bacon if he can continue to grow.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- Head Coach
- Posts: 6,168
- And1: 5,726
- Joined: Dec 05, 2016
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
dlts20 wrote:I hate threads like this, like everyone is entitled to a title or has to have all the help in the world. Dude has played with Harden, Maxey, Harris, Simmons, and butler. That's plenty of help and he's been on good teams. Sick of this soft entitled generation that wants to give people titles. Earn it like Giannis
What a bunch of nonsense.
He played 20 something games with Harden giving half effort.
Maxey is 20 years old and looks great but isn’t ready to bring it every night.
Harris is vastly overpaid and isn’t near an all-star. He’s the Roger Dorn of the NBA.
Simmons with all his issues and nonsense. Yeah that’s solid.
And Butler who management ran out of town after 35 games, and after he and Embiid came within a Kawhi shot that bounced around the rim like 8 times of advancing. Imagine if they had a couple more seasons together.
You can’t just list names, you have to give the context of situation. But honestly these are just petty Jokic fanboys posting this nonsense. They aren’t looking for a nuanced discussion.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
- ShazamDaShiznt
- Analyst
- Posts: 3,156
- And1: 4,766
- Joined: Jul 01, 2016
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
He can win the title as a #2 option. He's too much of an injury prone to lead the team to promised land.
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
-
- Assistant Coach
- Posts: 3,896
- And1: 2,657
- Joined: Jul 06, 2009
- Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Re: When Will Joel Embiid demand a trade?
Mr Puddles wrote:In the extreme unlikelihood that the Suns don't win the championship this year, I could see the trade of Ayton (re-signed) Bridges and a future unconditional pick being offered for Embiid + filler.
Extreme unlikelihood? It's impressive you're still that confident with how poorly we've played all playoffs and are now facing game 7 against Luka.
Could definitely see a trade here, not sure if the Suns would part with Bridges or try to package other pieces with Ayton