Who are your top 5 3&D players

[tamaraw08]

Many players can either shoot or defend well, very few can do both. What is the cutoff career % from 3?
Does KCP play good enough defense to make the cut? shot 36%
James Posey just shot under 35%, his last 2 seasons 125+ games really pulled down his ave.
Eddie Jones with 37.3% but was known to be very selective with his attempts esp during crunch time and playoffs.
I felt Michael Cooper was a legit 3&D player but only shot 34% in an era where they barely dared to take a ton of them. Only took 1.4 attempts= not enough to get some kind of rhythm?
Patrick Beverley, the pesky/obnoxious guard who shot 37.8%. Some players said he's a fraud but is he?
My top 5.
Jrue Holiday, 36.3%
Mikal Bridges 37.4%
Shane Battier at 38.4%
Bruce Bowen, 39.3%'
Paul George at 38.2%
Honorable mention CP3 AND Brook Lopez.
Most of the players mentioned were named either in 1st or 2nd all defensive teams. Who are yours?

[CharityStripe34]

Brook Lopez's shooting is a bit of a mirage the last two seasons.

[Lockdown504090]

danny green
myles turner is up there as well.
battier is a great pick
bruce bowen
Klay thompson
no order on this but i think thats the best five that come to mind off the dome

[UcanUwill]

Shane Battier was first to come to mind. Well, honestly, first one was PG13, but I am not sure he counts as 3D guy, he sure provides trees and defense, but I bet most would say he is too good and versatile to fit 3D label.

PJ Tucker is another name I will throw in.

[Dino-Might]

This is a bit of a weird question like tallest midget in the world.

The category of 3&D is a bit arbitrary in that you take players who can shoot 3's and defend, but if they are too good or can do other things, you no longer count them as 3&D players. So you set an artificial cut off for which players count.

For example, OP mentioned Paul George. Well yes, George was (is?) a good defensive wing who can also shoot from 3. But he can also create and do a number of other things so is he still a 3&D? Then what about Kawhi Leonard? Jaylen Brown? Where is the cutoff for when a player is too good to be 3&D?

Depending on what you set as the cut off will determine who you put as the best 3&D players; i.e. those just under the cutoff who are good but not quite good enough to outgrow the label.

[WillyJakkz]

Ridiculous... it's so egregious to list Paul George as a 3&D Player... Do you just not like the guy?

Robert Horry ultimate 3&D guy
Nick Anderson arguably but he could create as well and excelled with us with Shaq and Penny in the 3&D role
Shane Battier
Bruce Bowen
Doug Christie
PJ Tucker

Mikael Pietrus was fairly good at it
Trevor Ariza

[tamaraw08]

danny green
myles turner is up there as well.
battier is a great pick
bruce bowen
Klay thompson
no order on this but i think thats the best five that come to mind off the dome

OMG, I completely forgot Klay Thompson. I originally didn't consider Jrue as legit bec he was so horrible the past 2 years particularly the playoffs but was surprised at his career ave.
Myles' averaged is under 35% and has been struggling the past 3 years shooting under 34.5%.

[Patches Perry]

This is a bit of a weird question like tallest midget in the world.

The category is 3&D is a bit arbitrary in that you take players who can shoot 3's and defend, but if they are too good or can do other things, you no longer count them as 3&D players. So you set an artificial cut off for which players count.

For example, OP mentioned Paul George. Well yes, George was (is?) a good defensive wing who can also shoot from 3. But he can also create and do a number of other things so is he still a 3&D? Then what about Kawhi Leonard? Jaylen Brown? Where is the cutoff for when a player is too good to be 3&D?

Depending on what you set as the cut off will determine who you put as the best 3&D players; i.e. those just under the cutoff who are good but not quite good enough to outgrow the label.

3&D is generally considered a type of roleplayer, so that's where I'd cut it off. Once you are an all-star or perennial all-star, you're more than just hitting open threes and playing defense. Kevin Durant and Paul George are obviously not 3&D guys for the reasons you stated. The trickier case would be someone like Klay Thompson, who is OK at creating off the dribble, but is/was primarily a ridiculous 3pt shooter and elite man defender, but also a multiple time all-star.

Some guys that come to mind for me would be:
Jae Crowder
Dorian Finney-Smith
Reggie Bullock

[tamaraw08]

This is a bit of a weird question like tallest midget in the world.

The category of 3&D is a bit arbitrary in that you take players who can shoot 3's and defend, but if they are too good or can do other things, you no longer count them as 3&D players. So you set an artificial cut off for which players count.

For example, OP mentioned Paul George. Well yes, George was (is?) a good defensive wing who can also shoot from 3. But he can also create and do a number of other things so is he still a 3&D? Then what about Kawhi Leonard? Jaylen Brown? Where is the cutoff for when a player is too good to be 3&D?

Depending on what you set as the cut off will determine who you put as the best 3&D players; i.e. those just under the cutoff who are good but not quite good enough to outgrow the label.

It's a fair point. The label is very tricky, never said these guys are extremely limited to just these defending and shooting 3's, but I get it. BTW, How about Klay Thompson? He doesn't post up, facilitate the offense, barely create his own shots etc, can he be regarded as a 3 and D player?

[WillyJakkz]

danny green
myles turner is up there as well.
battier is a great pick
bruce bowen
Klay thompson
no order on this but i think thats the best five that come to mind off the dome

Klay Thompson is a FANTASTIC CALL as you can definitely argue that's essentially what he is.

Nice!

[taikibansei]

I think Andrew Wiggins is fast becoming such a player, and a very, very good one.

[maverick_41]

The Spurs, Raptors and Lakers would approve Danny Green as the 3nD guy you needed to win the title in the past decade.

Sure, Klay is nice, but Danny didn’t require MAX contract.

Talking about 2000’s Raja Bell comes to mind.
76ers, the Mavs 2003 stint and then filling the Joe Joe void in Phoenix.

[SickMother]

Chauncey Billups. Shot .387 from deep with a .414 three point attempt rate. League average during his career was .355 from deep with a .200 three point attempt rate, so he was shooting pretty crazy volume & efficiency for his era.

Made a couple All Defense 2nd teams as part of one of the more recent defensive dynasties.

[Monky15]

Rashard Lewis, Career .386% on 3's

[cupcakesnake]

I think at his peak, Danny Green was the best peak of actually good defense and strong 3-point shooting (while not being able to impact the game off the dribble). Green could guard 3 positions, and was an incredible help and transition defender from the 2-guard spot. Best shot-blocking guard of all time (sorry Wade and MJ).

OG Anunoby and Miles Bridges (EDIT: Mikal Bridges!). Not sure where their games are headed or if they'll be always be considered 3&D guys, but both of them are consistent shooters and the best perimeter defenders in the league.

Serge Ibaka maybe never quite combined elite defense and elite shooting in the same season, but he's definitely had years when he's reliable at both. He'll pop up in playoff leader lists for a long time in terms of amassing blocks and 3s.

Klay is obviously the best "3" in this debate, but I've never truly loved his defense. He was more of a defensive specialist (point of attacking man-to-man defense against smaller guards). His help defense has always been bad. He makes baffling decisions sometimes in terms of when to help and when not to.

Jae Crowder, Trevor Ariza, Shane Battier, late-career Michael Cooper, Wesley Matthews, Nic Batum, young Harrison Barnes, DFS, KCP, Bob Covington.

I have a preference for guys who have played that role in the playoffs and proved both their shot is reliable and their defensive is a definite asset.

[Richard4444]

I think we can not label playmakers, slashers, and centers as 3&D players. They do many other things in the offensive end like assists, 2pt baskets and rebounds.

Bullock is a prime example. 73% of his shots are 3pt.
Crowder 67% of his shots
I accept Klay as a 3&D guy. Less than 3assists a game and 52% of his shots are from deep
I can argue about PJ Tucker 45% of his shots are 3s.

Jrue is a playmaker
PG13 is a playmaker
Middleton is a playmaker
Under 40% of Wiggins, shots are from behind the arch.
Under 40% of Mikal shots are from deep.


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[Jadoogar]

Paul George is too good to be a "3+D" player. To me that term is reserved for role players where defense and shooting are their primary roles.

Paul George obviously does more than just catch and shoot threes.

[Jadoogar]

OG Anunoby and Miles Bridges. Not sure where their games are headed or if they'll be always be considered 3&D guys, but both of them are consistent shooters and the best perimeter defenders in the league.
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These 2 are the best versions of type of player in the league right now.

[MrGoat]

Russell Westbrook
DeMar DeRozan
DeAaron Fox
Julius Randle
DeAndre Jordan

Though in all seriousness I nominate Dorian Finney Smith. Over half of his shots come from deep and he's canned them at over 39% the last two seasons with those numbers going up in the playoffs both years, and he's a good defender too.

[Catchall]

Current players:
Mikal Bridges
Dorian Finney-Smith
Herb Jones
Jaylen Brown
probably OG Anunoby

Historically, guys like Joe Dumars, Mario Elie, Bryon Russell, Dan Majerle, Nick Andersen ...