Dallas - Orlando -- OP HAS BEEN EDITED

[Vox Populi]

OP EDITED HIS OP --GIVING EVERYONE A HEADS UP WHO READS THE RESPONSES THAT HE CHANGED THIS DEAL AFTER MANY OF THEM WERE POSTED


Premise: Luka loses faith in the Mavericks Front Office and demands a trade before the Feb 9th deadline. I know this is not realistic and only want to know what would be a fair trade in this specific scenario.

Orlando get: Luka Magic
Dallas get: Paolo Banchero, Markelle Fultz, Mo Bamba, 2023 1sts (ORL + CHI), 2025 1sts (ORL + DEN).

Luka, Suggs, Franz, Isaac, WCJ // Cole, Harris, Ross, Okeke, Bol Bol, Moritz
Fultz, Spencer, DFS, Banchero, Bamba // Hardy, Green, THJ, Bertans, Kleber, Wood, Powell, McGee

Why for Dallas? I think the Mavericks have screwed up and are wasting Luka's career. This gives them an opportunity to reset and build around Banchero, Fultz and the picks. If Luka forces a trade away in 2025, they will not get someone as good as Banchero in return.

Why for Orlando? Is the term Luka Magic not enough? lol

[Texas Chuck]

This is not close to a good offer, you have to know that. Luka is worth way more than Banchero. Like way, way more.

And if your justification is Luka will ask out in 2 years, okay. Dallas will get 2 MVP level years out of him which is worth more than this package. Plus then get a huge haul that is better than this.

Silly to propose Luka trades when you know he won't get traded, but at least put a serious offer on the table. This is not one.

[ejftw]

At least add Franz and Suggs along with the future pick haul package

[Vox Populi]

This is not close to a good offer, you have to know that. Luka is worth way more than Banchero. Like way, way more.

And if your justification is Luka will ask out in 2 years, okay. Dallas will get 2 MVP level years out of him which is worth more than this package. Plus then get a huge haul that is better than this.

Silly to propose Luka trades when you know he won't get traded, but at least put a serious offer on the table. This is not one.

It was a serious offer and I thought it was fair. Looks like I was wrong about that. This is why I am asking what would be fair in this thread, to know what others think. What would be a fair offer in your opinion?

Banchero is a #1 pick who is playing somewhat like a young Lebron. I am not saying he is as good as young Lebron but he is showing that he is worthy of being a 1st option for a team to build around. The Mavericks may never get someone as good as that in another trade.

I really strongly believe Luka will ask out in 2 years, like Anthony Davis did. What good is 2 MVP level years when the Mavericks do not seem able to build a contending team around him? There are no good free agents in 2023. Anunoby is probably the only good one in 2024. Luka will put up gaudy numbers in those 2 years, that is about it.

[Vox Populi]

At least add Franz and Suggs along with the future pick haul package

Okay to Suggs and more picks but not Franz! In my fantasy world, the goal is to have Luka and Franz run the show. I think they would create some Magic in Orlando.

[ejftw]

At least add Franz and Suggs along with the future pick haul package

Okay to Suggs but not Franz! In my fantasy world, the goal is to have Luka and Franz run the show. I think they would create some Magic in Orlando.

Then you have as much chance of acquiring Luka as I do of stopping Shaq in the post.

[AaronB]

As a Magic fan, I would have to decline this trade.

Not based on value, but because I like watching Paolo play, and then I would have to watch Mav games, which would probably interfere with the space-time continuum.

[Mamba4Goat]

Realistically the Magic could land Wemby and offer him, Paolo, and Franz and that would probably be deemed a reasonable Luka offer. Young, generational MVP talents don’t get traded for anything less than an arm, leg, your first born, your life savings, and your house. Metaphorically of course. (Orlando should politely decline that offer though).

[WillyJakkz]

Realistically the Magic could land Wemby and offer him, Paolo, and Franz and that would probably be deemed a reasonable Luka offer. Young, generational MVP talents don’t get traded for anything less than an arm, leg, your first born, your life savings, and your house. Metaphorically of course. (Orlando should politely decline that offer though).

Um yeah... If we get graced with Wemby ain't no way in hell we're trading him.

[Apz]

Keep saying it, u take the biggest package ever needed to aquire a player, then double it. This just isnt close. Reality is that if luka were traded, which obviously wont happen, the new team will have to include all young talent and more picks then anyone own atm. In short, the new team will be worse then current mavs and have zero assets to build a team around him. In short, luka cant ask to be traded because his new situation will be worse then current mavs

[Ducklett]

I think Luka ends up on the Magic in a few years, but this trade isn't enough to get Dallas to even pick up the phone to laugh at it.

[Skybox]

At least add Franz and Suggs along with the future pick haul package

Okay to Suggs but not Franz! In my fantasy world, the goal is to have Luka and Franz run the show. I think they would create some Magic in Orlando.

Then you have as much chance of acquiring Luka as I do of stopping Shaq in the post.

Or ORL could trade all of the young talent on the team and some high picks for one amazing player and surround him with nobodies…if Luka were ever to want out, that would be why…he’s amazing and ball-dominant like no one since Iverson but when there’s no one else of value on the whole roster, there’s a very real ceiling. Maybe it’s just impossible to trade for a guy that good and that young. That’s why DAL is manufacturing enthusiasm for Christian Wood and Josh Green.

[luciano-davidwesley]

This is not close to a good offer, you have to know that. Luka is worth way more than Banchero. Like way, way more.

And if your justification is Luka will ask out in 2 years, okay. Dallas will get 2 MVP level years out of him which is worth more than this package. Plus then get a huge haul that is better than this.

Silly to propose Luka trades when you know he won't get traded, but at least put a serious offer on the table. This is not one.

I think any offer from Orl would have to include Banchero, Wagner, Suggs, Anthony and the 3-5 FRP's and swaps. Some team would offer just about their whole roster and pick future for Luka. Luka is stuck between a rock and a hard place when you think about it. He needs to be patient in Dallas.

[jayjaysee]

Once Luka demands out in 24 months, Orlando will be able to offer something similar to this. It’s an exciting package that includes an amazing prospect and a couple decent picks.

In order to get Dallas to give up on the idea of another star staying with the team 20 years - you probably need to pay something that hurts a lot worse than this.

But all Dallas needs to do to “build a team around Luka” is to trade for one player. They have the team, depth, defense, shooters.. They just need someone better than Wood, Brunson, Dinwiddie, Porzingis… that’s all they need though. It’s not as dramatic as a lot of people here try to make it seem for whatever reason.

[JT3000]

This is not close to a good offer, you have to know that. Luka is worth way more than Banchero. Like way, way more.

And if your justification is Luka will ask out in 2 years, okay. Dallas will get 2 MVP level years out of him which is worth more than this package. Plus then get a huge haul that is better than this.

Silly to propose Luka trades when you know he won't get traded, but at least put a serious offer on the table. This is not one.

[Texas Chuck]

This is not close to a good offer, you have to know that. Luka is worth way more than Banchero. Like way, way more.

And if your justification is Luka will ask out in 2 years, okay. Dallas will get 2 MVP level years out of him which is worth more than this package. Plus then get a huge haul that is better than this.

Silly to propose Luka trades when you know he won't get traded, but at least put a serious offer on the table. This is not one.

While I give you full marks for your creative way of calling me a homer, a couple things:

1. Zero chance not wanting to trade Luka for Banchero makes me a homer.
2. If you call any other poster a homer, then I would have to take action as a mod. Don't call people homers. It's lame.

If you think I'm wrong, tell me why and let's debate. It's what the forum is for, but just pics, and calling people homers --not what the board is for.

Thanks

Chuck

[facothomas22]

The Magic would need include all of their 1st round unprotected (including this year's pick) and Jalen Suggs as well. Paolo Banachero has great potential, However he and 2 1st round picks alone(one of them is a Denver pick, which will be a late 1st round pick) won't be enough for the Magic to get a generational talent like Luka Doncic

[Texas Chuck]

Oh and OP--when you go back and edit the OP after people post a response to your original deal--you have to make that clear. This is really poor form. Because others read responses to a totally different deal than what shows now.

The original offer was Banchero/salary filler and the 23 ORL/CHI 1sts btw, so you can get the context of the responses itt. The 25 1sts don't save how weak this offer is, but they were not there originally.

[Colbinii]

This is not close to a good offer, you have to know that. Luka is worth way more than Banchero. Like way, way more.

And if your justification is Luka will ask out in 2 years, okay. Dallas will get 2 MVP level years out of him which is worth more than this package. Plus then get a huge haul that is better than this.

Silly to propose Luka trades when you know he won't get traded, but at least put a serious offer on the table. This is not one.

It was a serious offer and I thought it was fair. Looks like I was wrong about that. This is why I am asking what would be fair in this thread, to know what others think. What would be a fair offer in your opinion?

Banchero is a #1 pick who is playing somewhat like a young Lebron. I am not saying he is as good as young Lebron but he is showing that he is worthy of being a 1st option for a team to build around. The Mavericks may never get someone as good as that in another trade.

I really strongly believe Luka will ask out in 2 years, like Anthony Davis did. What good is 2 MVP level years when the Mavericks do not seem able to build a contending team around him? There are no good free agents in 2023. Anunoby is probably the only good one in 2024. Luka will put up gaudy numbers in those 2 years, that is about it.

I don't see any "Young LeBron" vibes from Paolo. Luka definitely had those vibes as a Sophomore and still does but Paolo plays more like Chris Webber who actually imposes his strength/size.

[Colbinii]

Oh and OP--when you go back and edit the OP after people post a response to your original deal--you have to make that clear. This is really poor form. Because others read responses to a totally different deal than what shows now.

The original offer was Banchero/salary filler and the 23 ORL/CHI 1sts btw, so you can get the context of the responses itt. The 25 1sts don't save how weak this offer is, but they were not there originally.

I think Paolo/2023 ORL 1st/2023 CHI 1st is a very good offer for Luka.

Paolo is a 20 year old putting up 20/6/4, shows very clear and large signs of "I can be your best offensive player in the future" and has a great contract for 3 years before his extension.

This trade, however, makes more sense to Dallas in the off-season, at the draft, if the #1 or #2 pick is landed in Orlando. Orlando can trade Scoot/Wemby + Paolo for Luka, but then Orlando is simply in the same situation Dallas is in.

Obviously Dallas doesn't consider this because the #1 and only way to win a championship is to have a Top Dog in the NBA on your team and Luka is one of the best Top Dogs.