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Post#1 » by wakelaunch1 » Wed Mar 1, 2023 10:14 pm

Man Paul George is just so off with his decisions.

He announced today that he is going to have a once a week podcast. We are on a 3 game losing skid where he hasnt played great.

I dont even like Draymond doing one but Draymond also has multiple NBA titles and no one questions his work ethic.

Just seems like PG is not that interested in playing basketball.
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Post#2 » by The High Cyde » Wed Mar 1, 2023 10:45 pm

He’s probably getting traded this summer honestly, but don’t know who there is that the FO could bring in that’s better.
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Post#3 » by wakelaunch1 » Wed Mar 1, 2023 11:13 pm

If the Lakers tank, I would love an AD for PG swap. Damian Lillard would be awesome. I think if it happens it needs to be for someone who compliments Kawhi a little better. Their skills are pretty redundent and I think PG would do better with someone like Lebron who would keep him in check and off the ball more.
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Post#4 » by Scoundreldays » Wed Mar 1, 2023 11:21 pm

wakelaunch1 wrote:If the Lakers tank, I would love an AD for PG swap. Damian Lillard would be awesome. I think if it happens it needs to be for someone who compliments Kawhi a little better. Their skills are pretty redundent and I think PG would do better with someone like Lebron who would keep him in check and off the ball more.

Honestly I could totally see both teams doing this. Especially if they both underperform in the post season or do not make it at all. Would be pretty funny
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Post#5 » by esqtvd » Wed Mar 1, 2023 11:29 pm

wakelaunch1 wrote:If the Lakers tank, I would love an AD for PG swap. Damian Lillard would be awesome. I think if it happens it needs to be for someone who compliments Kawhi a little better. Their skills are pretty redundent and I think PG would do better with someone like Lebron who would keep him in check and off the ball more.



Kawhi and PG can both opt out after next season. I'm not sure either would stay if and when this whole thing goes to hell. Maybe start over somewhere else, together or separately.

I don't know if Ballmer would want them to stay. Kawhi is not a leader or a face of the franchise. PG is here because of Kawhi. That's $90+ million of your $130 million sal cap.

I don't know if Kawhi would stay without PG. I don't know if Kawhi would only stay if we GOT RID of PG.

I did think that Ballmer decided to go all-in with the Westbrook thing NOW and get a jump on this whole mess BEFORE he opens Basketball Xanadu in Fall 2024. If Kawhi and/or PG are leaving anyway, they must be dealt next summer or fall and get SOMETHING back for Shai and all those draft picks.
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Post#6 » by MartinToVaught » Wed Mar 1, 2023 11:31 pm

The High Cyde wrote:He’s probably getting traded this summer honestly, but don’t know who there is that the FO could bring in that’s better.

I'd rather have a couple younger players who know their role on offense, don't have five demoralizing unforced turnovers every game, and don't force the front office to sign all their friends. Wouldn't even be a downgrade, honestly. PG may be the worst "star player" I've ever seen.

On the other hand, I don't really trust Frank not to screw up such an important trade.
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Post#7 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Mar 2, 2023 12:04 am

When I watch him play, I see a guy who is incredibly skilled for his size and a really good shooter. However, he's not very strong for his size and can get pushed off balance by defenders. So often his drives go sideways and he has to bail out with risky passes, or shoot more off-balance shots. Maybe age has made this worse.

If he added significant muscle to his frame, it might suit him better going forward. He'd be a little slower but I think there would be a net benefit at this point to his game. He might be a little more durable as well.

The only way we get reasonable value back in a Paul George trade is if there is someone else who really needs a change in scenery too. In such a scenario, maybe Kawhi okays the trade and is at least willing to give it a shot before wanting out.
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Post#8 » by wakelaunch1 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 12:33 am

esqtvd wrote:
wakelaunch1 wrote:If the Lakers tank, I would love an AD for PG swap. Damian Lillard would be awesome. I think if it happens it needs to be for someone who compliments Kawhi a little better. Their skills are pretty redundent and I think PG would do better with someone like Lebron who would keep him in check and off the ball more.



Kawhi and PG can both opt out after next season. I'm not sure either would stay if and when this whole thing goes to hell. Maybe start over somewhere else, together or separately.

I don't know if Ballmer would want them to stay. Kawhi is not a leader or a face of the franchise. PG is here because of Kawhi. That's $90+ million of your $130 million sal cap.

I don't know if Kawhi would stay without PG. I don't know if Kawhi would only stay if we GOT RID of PG.

I did think that Ballmer decided to go all-in with the Westbrook thing NOW and get a jump on this whole mess BEFORE he opens Basketball Xanadu in Fall 2024. If Kawhi and/or PG are leaving anyway, they must be dealt next summer or fall and get SOMETHING back for Shai and all those draft picks.



They might both realize that they arent a good match. Both get hurt way to much to be a Duo. Will be interesting to see what happens if they cant figure out this super average team out. Ballmer has given the GM and coach whatever they want so I dont really blame Ballmer at all. Definitely need some draft picks for either of them/or both. I dont think PG will get anywhere near what they gave up. I would like to see Kawhi with some new pieces around him. Most of the contracts they have are pretty reasonable pretty easy to swap for similar contract players.

This current team is going to be lucky to make the play in unfortunately.
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Post#9 » by nickhx2 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 1:05 am

madmaxmedia wrote:When I watch him play, I see a guy who is incredibly skilled for his size and a really good shooter. However, he's not very strong for his size and can get pushed off balance by defenders. So often his drives go sideways and he has to bail out with risky passes, or shoot more off-balance shots. Maybe age has made this worse.

If he added significant muscle to his frame, it might suit him better going forward. He'd be a little slower but I think there would be a net benefit at this point to his game. He might be a little more durable as well.

The only way we get reasonable value back in a Paul George trade is if there is someone else who really needs a change in scenery too. In such a scenario, maybe Kawhi okays the trade and is at least willing to give it a shot before wanting out.


generally agree with this. he also has lost confidence in his dribble and passing (despite showing what i would say were all-star level skills post UCL return last season), and i think this season's "growing pains" is really just him trying to get back to that. obviously to our detriment. what i would be concerned about in any transition to PF, however, would him feeling like it's carte blanche to back people down even more in the post, and to me that sounds worse because i don't think him being stronger makes up for his generally bad awareness/handle lol. but faceup, yeah, it'd help.
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Post#10 » by NickP » Thu Mar 2, 2023 4:21 am

esqtvd wrote:
wakelaunch1 wrote:If the Lakers tank, I would love an AD for PG swap. Damian Lillard would be awesome. I think if it happens it needs to be for someone who compliments Kawhi a little better. Their skills are pretty redundent and I think PG would do better with someone like Lebron who would keep him in check and off the ball more.



Kawhi and PG can both opt out after next season. I'm not sure either would stay if and when this whole thing goes to hell. Maybe start over somewhere else, together or separately.

I don't know if Ballmer would want them to stay. Kawhi is not a leader or a face of the franchise. PG is here because of Kawhi. That's $90+ million of your $130 million sal cap.

I don't know if Kawhi would stay without PG. I don't know if Kawhi would only stay if we GOT RID of PG.

I did think that Ballmer decided to go all-in with the Westbrook thing NOW and get a jump on this whole mess BEFORE he opens Basketball Xanadu in Fall 2024. If Kawhi and/or PG are leaving anyway, they must be dealt next summer or fall and get SOMETHING back for Shai and all those draft picks.

Lol @ Kawhi not being the face of the franchise. More silly narrative.
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Post#11 » by esqtvd » Thu Mar 2, 2023 4:31 am

NickP wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
wakelaunch1 wrote:If the Lakers tank, I would love an AD for PG swap. Damian Lillard would be awesome. I think if it happens it needs to be for someone who compliments Kawhi a little better. Their skills are pretty redundent and I think PG would do better with someone like Lebron who would keep him in check and off the ball more.



Kawhi and PG can both opt out after next season. I'm not sure either would stay if and when this whole thing goes to hell. Maybe start over somewhere else, together or separately.

I don't know if Ballmer would want them to stay. Kawhi is not a leader or a face of the franchise. PG is here because of Kawhi. That's $90+ million of your $130 million sal cap.

I don't know if Kawhi would stay without PG. I don't know if Kawhi would only stay if we GOT RID of PG.

I did think that Ballmer decided to go all-in with the Westbrook thing NOW and get a jump on this whole mess BEFORE he opens Basketball Xanadu in Fall 2024. If Kawhi and/or PG are leaving anyway, they must be dealt next summer or fall and get SOMETHING back for Shai and all those draft picks.

Lol @ Kawhi not being the face of the franchise. More silly narrative.


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Post#12 » by Roscoe Sheed » Thu Mar 2, 2023 5:29 am

wakelaunch1 wrote:If the Lakers tank, I would love an AD for PG swap. Damian Lillard would be awesome. I think if it happens it needs to be for someone who compliments Kawhi a little better. Their skills are pretty redundent and I think PG would do better with someone like Lebron who would keep him in check and off the ball more.

Why would the lakers agree to a AD for pg swap? Aside from being somewhat more available and a better 3 point shooter, PG is mostly an inferior player to AD
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Post#13 » by NickP » Thu Mar 2, 2023 5:38 am

esqtvd wrote:
NickP wrote:
esqtvd wrote:

Kawhi and PG can both opt out after next season. I'm not sure either would stay if and when this whole thing goes to hell. Maybe start over somewhere else, together or separately.

I don't know if Ballmer would want them to stay. Kawhi is not a leader or a face of the franchise. PG is here because of Kawhi. That's $90+ million of your $130 million sal cap.

I don't know if Kawhi would stay without PG. I don't know if Kawhi would only stay if we GOT RID of PG.

I did think that Ballmer decided to go all-in with the Westbrook thing NOW and get a jump on this whole mess BEFORE he opens Basketball Xanadu in Fall 2024. If Kawhi and/or PG are leaving anyway, they must be dealt next summer or fall and get SOMETHING back for Shai and all those draft picks.

Lol @ Kawhi not being the face of the franchise. More silly narrative.


obviously you don't know what it means

I know very well the level of play Kawhi brings to this team. Kawhi has been playing stellar for the last many games. He's a two time champion and finals MVP. I don't know what face of the franchise you're expecting.
Not everybody is a vocal leader. Even I've called Kawhi out. But he has definitely turned this around. You've been constantly talking about how this team is going to break up and how everyone is going to leave but otoh, you've been calling others vultures just because they come and give opinions on game threads while you're doing the same.
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Post#14 » by Captain Ballmer » Thu Mar 2, 2023 6:43 am

First, public cry for playmaker.. Second for Russell love.. Than this... He was always 2nd option to Kawhi even though he might think he's 1B at the beginning 2019. Now he finally think he gets it not meant to be number one, he's trying to be no. 2 but he seems late to understand reality. This screams he's the 3rd option to me.. after Russ finishes his honeymoon.

Get him to PF minutes. got him to help rebounds, releasing him from playmaking duties should increase his energy level and use that for defense. Less thinking about playmaking should help him focus shooting better. I dont want him to avarege 24-6-5 with 4 to, I need him to make 22-8-3 with less then 3 to.
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Post#15 » by esqtvd » Thu Mar 2, 2023 7:23 am

NickP wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
NickP wrote:Lol @ Kawhi not being the face of the franchise. More silly narrative.


obviously you don't know what it means

I know very well the level of play Kawhi brings to this team. Kawhi has been playing stellar for the last many games. He's a two time champion and finals MVP. I don't know what face of the franchise you're expecting.
Not everybody is a vocal leader. Even I've called Kawhi out. But he has definitely turned this around. You've been constantly talking about how this team is going to break up and how everyone is going to leave but otoh, you've been calling others vultures just because they come and give opinions on game threads while you're doing the same.


then you don't know what is meant by "face of the team"


As for breaking up the team, I'm pointing out that it's a business possibility because KL and PG can opt out after next year.

I have no opinion on whether the org should have gone all-in with Westbrook but it makes business sense to do so now rather than enter 2023-24 with zero idea what Kawhi will do. He and PG wanted Mann OUT of the starting lineup and if the FO said no to Russ, any playoff failures would be blamed on the org, not them.

I have no idea if Westbrook will work out and neither does anybody else on this board or on TNT or ESPN or anywhere on God's green earth.

As for the vultures--we all know who they are and what's out of line is predicting a loss and calling for firing the coach and it's all Doc Rivers' fault in EVERY GAME THREAD. In the FIRST QUARTER. And yes, Marcus sucks and Mann needs to start and RoCo needs to play more. GOT IT GOT IT GOT IT. :roll:

That's what "narrative" means. Mercy. Now let's get back to basketball:

The fact is, by demoting Mann and rolling the dice on Westbrook, the Kawhi experiment is coming to a head. That is a new set of circumstances, not a "narrative." I suppose there's a chance things will be rolled back to Mann starting and Russ trying to make something out of the second unit but time is short. Very short.

BTW, acc to the LA Times, Morris sat out 17 of the last 18 minutes vs the Wolves and acc to my own calculations, he already plays the lowest number of 4th quarter minutes on the team, appearing in the 4th in only 60% of his games whereas Batum is well over 90%. This whole thing about Marcus starting is a false narrative--it's who finishes that counts. He only plays this much because at 34, Batum is fading.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional?LastNGames=10&TeamID=1610612746&dir=A&sort=PLUS_MINUS
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Post#16 » by wakelaunch1 » Thu Mar 2, 2023 5:47 pm

esqtvd wrote:
NickP wrote:
esqtvd wrote:
obviously you don't know what it means

I know very well the level of play Kawhi brings to this team. Kawhi has been playing stellar for the last many games. He's a two time champion and finals MVP. I don't know what face of the franchise you're expecting.
Not everybody is a vocal leader. Even I've called Kawhi out. But he has definitely turned this around. You've been constantly talking about how this team is going to break up and how everyone is going to leave but otoh, you've been calling others vultures just because they come and give opinions on game threads while you're doing the same.


then you don't know what is meant by "face of the team"


As for breaking up the team, I'm pointing out that it's a business possibility because KL and PG can opt out after next year.

I have no opinion on whether the org should have gone all-in with Westbrook but it makes business sense to do so now rather than enter 2023-24 with zero idea what Kawhi will do. He and PG wanted Mann OUT of the starting lineup and if the FO said no to Russ, any playoff failures would be blamed on the org, not them.

I have no idea if Westbrook will work out and neither does anybody else on this board or on TNT or ESPN or anywhere on God's green earth.

As for the vultures--we all know who they are and what's out of line is predicting a loss and calling for firing the coach and it's all Doc Rivers' fault in EVERY GAME THREAD. In the FIRST QUARTER. And yes, Marcus sucks and Mann needs to start and RoCo needs to play more. GOT IT GOT IT GOT IT. :roll:

That's what "narrative" means. Mercy. Now let's get back to basketball:

The fact is, by demoting Mann and rolling the dice on Westbrook, the Kawhi experiment is coming to a head. That is a new set of circumstances, not a "narrative." I suppose there's a chance things will be rolled back to Mann starting and Russ trying to make something out of the second unit but time is short. Very short.

BTW, acc to the LA Times, Morris sat out 17 of the last 18 minutes vs the Wolves and acc to my own calculations, he already plays the lowest number of 4th quarter minutes on the team, appearing in the 4th in only 60% of his games whereas Batum is well over 90%. This whole thing about Marcus starting is a false narrative--it's who finishes that counts. He only plays this much because at 34, Batum is fading.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/traditional?LastNGames=10&TeamID=1610612746&dir=A&sort=PLUS_MINUS



I think the problem is the Clippers are notorious slow starters most of the season with no production value from Morris. I think replacing him in the starting lineup is crucial If they dont, he needs to pulled faster if he doesnt start out at least decent. The Clippers really dont have crazy athletic guys that get to the rim. Paul George showed he can in the forth with the monster dunk but its very very rare. He is more of a settle for a fade away off balance shot.

Again it adds to my confusion of why trade for Covington. Give him starter minutes for a few games, see if he can jump start the defense/rebounding. See how he can play along side of Kawhi/PG/Russ. Maybe Morris is burned out and needs a week off.
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Post#17 » by Clemenza » Thu Mar 2, 2023 6:38 pm

Bad timing and optics to start a podcast right now with 18 games left and the team is struggling but whatever. I've never seen a Clipper season go like this, ever. The funny thing is the west is still wide open and we're still in it if we can get our sh*t together but if it ends badly then its without question time to move one of the stars if not both if they don't want to stick around. Both players when healthy are still coveted around the league. Keep one guy and get a haul of picks or move both and get two hauls.
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Post#18 » by Scoundreldays » Thu Mar 2, 2023 6:59 pm



PG was just recently on JJ Redick's podcast if anyone is interested.

Edit: Can someone show me how to embed the video on this post? Thank you.

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Post#19 » by Dynamix » Thu Mar 2, 2023 7:38 pm

Scoundreldays wrote:https://youtu.be/zBbYzNNnWbA

PG was just recently on JJ Redick's podcast if anyone is interested.

Edit: Can someone show me how to embed the video on this post? Thank you.


Sure, just put the link (either full URL or just that long string of letters at the end - zBbYzNNnWbA) inside the [youtube][/youtube] tag.
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Post#20 » by Scoundreldays » Thu Mar 2, 2023 8:07 pm

Dynamix wrote:
Scoundreldays wrote:https://youtu.be/zBbYzNNnWbA

PG was just recently on JJ Redick's podcast if anyone is interested.

Edit: Can someone show me how to embed the video on this post? Thank you.


Sure, just put the link (either full URL or just that long string of letters at the end - zBbYzNNnWbA) inside the [youtube][/youtube] tag.

Thanks!

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