Suns owner (Mat Ishbia) and Cavs owner (Dan Gilbert) are beefing for real

SUPERVILLAIN · Post #1 » by **SUPERVILLAIN** » Thu May 4, 2023 4:07 am

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payton2kemp · Post #2 » by **payton2kemp** » Thu May 4, 2023 4:10 am

Dan Gilbert is an ass. Confirmed.

Clay Davis · Post #3 » by **Clay Davis** » Thu May 4, 2023 4:13 am

lol what kind of name is GILBERT

JujitsuFlip · Post #4 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Thu May 4, 2023 4:24 am

I'll take a billion from each of em, lighten their burden a little bit.

azcatz11 · Post #5 » by **azcatz11** » Thu May 4, 2023 4:29 am

He reminds me of Mark Cuban

3toheadmelo · Post #6 » by **3toheadmelo** » Thu May 4, 2023 4:40 am

Clay Davis wrote:lol what kind of name is GILBERT

Kilmonger · Post #7 » by **Kilmonger** » Thu May 4, 2023 4:48 am

Idk, I still look at Gilbert with a side eye after that Comic Sans letter he wrote about Lebron in 2010.

Dupp · Post #8 » by **Dupp** » Thu May 4, 2023 5:52 am

What’s he talking about here specifically?

TheAlchemist · Post #9 » by **TheAlchemist** » Thu May 4, 2023 6:57 am

Dan Gilbert is one funny guy, that’s for sure.

Dominator83 · Post #10 » by **Dominator83** » Thu May 4, 2023 7:05 am

I like this guys charisma

Mk0 · Post #11 » by **Mk0** » Thu May 4, 2023 8:58 am

Dupp wrote:What’s he talking about here specifically?

He was voted 29-0 on his bid to buy the Suns. Why wasn't it 30-0?
Dan Gilbert abstained.

They are both from Michigan. They both went to Michigan State. They have competing mortgage companies.. and now they have competing NBA teams.

From wikipedia,

He also controversially announced in 2021 that UWM would no longer work with any broker or bank that also worked with Rocket Mortgage or the Fairway Independent Mortgage Group, both of whom are UWM's rivals in the mortgage industry.[5][6] This led to him having a rivalry with Dan Gilbert and Rocket Mortgage, with Gilbert being the only NBA owner to abstain from voting to approve Ishbia's ownership of the Phoenix Suns in February 2023.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mat_Ishbia

*And I feel it is important to note; he made his billions taking his father's company public.

Mk0 · Post #12 » by **Mk0** » Thu May 4, 2023 9:08 am

Dominator83 wrote:I like this guys charisma

For those who didn't hear the full interview,

I listened to it this morning. He came across pretty great.

He basically laid out that he isn't looking to make money on the team (he recognizes that the team will make money no matter what), he has a successful mortgage company and when it comes to basketball he is a fan and wants to enhance the fan experience. This is part of the reason he is making the Suns/Mercury free to stream.

Regarding the business side he is definitely playing the long game on the team. Says he never intends to sell and that it was one of the premier franchises with location, current talent and the fan base. It is very forward thinking to make the team more accessible via free streaming and targetting new and young fans.

Regarding the competetive side of the game he said he will do whatever it takes to compete for a championship and KD was an investment, he isn't a 6 month rental. He and Booker are the foundation.

Dominator83 · Post #13 » by **Dominator83** » Thu May 4, 2023 9:10 am

Mk0 wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:I like this guys charisma

For those who didn't hear the interview,

I listened to his interview this morning. It came across pretty great. He basically laid out that he isn't looking to make money on the team (he recognizes that the team will make money no matter what), he has a successful mortgage company and when it comes to basketball he is a fan and wants to enhance the fan experience. This is part of the reason he is making the Suns/Mercury free to stream.

He is definitely playing the long game on the team. Says he never intends to sell and that it was one of the premier franchises with location, current talent and the fan base. It is very forward thinking to make the team more accessible via free streaming and targetting new and young fans.

Must be nice to have ownership that's not wallet 1st

Mk0 · Post #14 » by **Mk0** » Thu May 4, 2023 9:14 am

Dominator83 wrote:
Mk0 wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:I like this guys charisma

For those who didn't hear the interview,

I listened to his interview this morning. It came across pretty great. He basically laid out that he isn't looking to make money on the team (he recognizes that the team will make money no matter what), he has a successful mortgage company and when it comes to basketball he is a fan and wants to enhance the fan experience. This is part of the reason he is making the Suns/Mercury free to stream.

He is definitely playing the long game on the team. Says he never intends to sell and that it was one of the premier franchises with location, current talent and the fan base. It is very forward thinking to make the team more accessible via free streaming and targetting new and young fans.

Must be nice to have ownership that's not wallet 1st

The Bulls really need one of these new blood owners. Uncle Jerry is killing me.

*I updated my original post with some more info. It was like a 10m interview and worth the watch/listen.

Post #15 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Thu May 4, 2023 11:07 am

Too much money in mortgages.

kenwood3333 · Post #16 » by **kenwood3333** » Thu May 4, 2023 1:12 pm

Mk0 wrote:
Dominator83 wrote:I like this guys charisma

For those who didn't hear the full interview,

I listened to it this morning. He came across pretty great.

He basically laid out that he isn't looking to make money on the team (he recognizes that the team will make money no matter what), he has a successful mortgage company and when it comes to basketball he is a fan and wants to enhance the fan experience. This is part of the reason he is making the Suns/Mercury free to stream.

Regarding the business side he is definitely playing the long game on the team. Says he never intends to sell and that it was one of the premier franchises with location, current talent and the fan base. It is very forward thinking to make the team more accessible via free streaming and targetting new and young fans.

Regarding the competetive side of the game he said he will do whatever it takes to compete for a championship and KD was an investment, he isn't a 6 month rental. He and Booker are the foundation.

A business person publicly stating he is not looking to make $ on a billion dollar investment and hissole purpose is to enhance fan experience? If anyone believes him, he has what it takes to become a politican.

66WinCavs · Post #17 » by **66WinCavs** » Thu May 4, 2023 1:15 pm

They are almost exactly the same and hate each other because they hate themselves.
Its like looking in the mirror

GSWFan1994 · Post #18 » by **GSWFan1994** » Thu May 4, 2023 1:17 pm

Clay Davis wrote:lol what kind of name is GILBERT

Here in Brazil we have a guy named... 1 2 3 de Oliveira 4.

Um Dois Três de Oliveira Quatro.

Post #19 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Thu May 4, 2023 1:18 pm

They both run predatory businesses and it seems Mat has been able to screw over more people recently and Dan hasn’t liked that

BadWolf · Post #20 » by **BadWolf** » Thu May 4, 2023 1:58 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:They both run predatory businesses and it seems Mat has been able to screw over more people recently and Dan hasn’t liked that

This.
All owners are bad, you don't get billions without it.