POR-NOP-TOR: New Wing Option for Blazers (NOT OG)

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POR-NOP-TOR: New Wing Option for Blazers (NOT OG) 

Post#1 » by Telfaire » Sun May 21, 2023 10:48 am

Blazers trade Simons, Little & #3 for Ingram and Thad Young

I like this package better than previous proposal that I've came across or thought of (Siakam, Markanen + Ayton). Ingram will be 26 next season, he's signed for two more years (whereas Siakam is 29 and has 1 year left on his contract). He'd be our go-to-guy as a scroer and playmaker when Dame is injured or on the bench, and I believe that their games should mesh well. Young adds depth at PF and could also play the 5 in certain matchups. He also gives as an expiring, 8M contract to package along with Nurk, should an opportunity to upgrade at center will present itself.


Raptors trade Anunoby, Young for Simons, Little, #14, Lakers unproctected 1st (conveys in 2024 or 2025 draft)

I believe this is more than enough for OG, would not argue with comments saying that the second, future pick should be less attractive than the Lakers' pick (which might not turn out to be that attractive, depends on where Bronnie is drafted and by who).
If the Raptors manage to retain FVV & Poeltel, they basically switch from GT3 to Simons while bringing in two rookies. If FVV leaves, Simons could take over as the starting PG.


Pelicans trade Ingram, #14, Lakers' future 1st for #3, Anunboy, 15M TPE

This is an 'all-in-on-Zion' move, selling high on Ingram whose game never really meshed with Zion's when the two played together. The Pels were rumored to be among the many teams who expressed interest in OG prior to the trade deadline, when the asking price was three 1st round picks. So here they get him for two, while flipping Ingram for the 3rd pick. So I believe that value-wise, they're doing goood here. As for what they should do with the pick: hopefully at least one of Orlando/Indiana would want to trade up for it, agreeing to attach WCJ/Turner in return for Jonas (or even the TPE just created by this 3-way trade). That would finally the Pels that defensive, floor-stretching center that they need to pair Zion with, while they could still draft a valuable piece at 6/7 (I believe that one of Jarace/Hendricks would be available as a much needed backup to Zion, who could also play spot minute next to him). While Ingram's scoring prowess would be missed, the Pels would turn to rely more on CJ & Murphy, and let's not forget that OG wants a bigger role on offense.
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Re: POR-NOP-TOR: New Wing Option for Blazers 

Post#2 » by zimpy27 » Sun May 21, 2023 11:27 am

I can't see OG being worth all that.
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Re: POR-NOP-TOR: New Wing Option for Blazers 

Post#3 » by Godaddycurse » Sun May 21, 2023 11:50 am

zimpy27 wrote:I can't see OG being worth all that.


It would take an overpay for us to move him. OP probably needs to add top 4 protection to that laker 1st though, or make it worse of NOP/LAL 1st
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Re: POR-NOP-TOR: New Wing Option for Blazers (NOT OG) 

Post#4 » by Tim Lehrbach » Sun May 21, 2023 2:42 pm

Ingram is tempting for Portland, but he's not without (injury, fit) risk. He commands a lot of possessions for good, but not elite, production. I wouldn't pull the trigger.

I like the idea for New Orleans. Ingram, as mentioned, is good but just short of great. They have other competent wings. The pick and OG allow a mini-makeover around Zion, as you say.
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Re: POR-NOP-TOR: New Wing Option for Blazers (NOT OG) 

Post#5 » by JasonStern » Sun May 21, 2023 6:16 pm

I'm higher on Ingram than most. And while Thaddeus is running on fumes, he's still running. I'd do this.

OG still being overrated. Take the Lakers 1st out and it's closer for Nawlins.
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Re: POR-NOP-TOR: New Wing Option for Blazers (NOT OG) 

Post#6 » by Mr Swagtastic » Sun May 21, 2023 6:43 pm

Why does everyone think we want Simons? If Toronto is bringing back FVV he and Simons are a horrible pairing. Also does anybody think The Lakers who are in the conference finals now are going to be worse next year in a worse draft? If you took out the Lakers first it's easier for Toronto to say no to this
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