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Oral History Of the 1999 Bulls 

Post#1 » by HomoSapien » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:12 pm

This is an old article, but somehow I missed this. Lot's of fascinating tidbits:

On Tim Floyd:

Sam Smith: “Tim Floyd was badly overmatched. He’d clearly set a goal to get an NBA head coaching job and had obviously worked Jerry Krause for years with that in mind, inviting him to practices, calling him. Krause didn’t have a lot of friends in basketball due to his nature and he tended to, understandably, gravitate to those who embraced him. Tim was like the Robert Redford character in the old movie ‘The Candidate’ where they scheme to get the job and the last scene is Redford asking, ‘What do we do now?’ Tim sought the glamor, fame and money of an NBA coach, but he really hated the NBA. It seemed obvious he’d never watched NBA games and even when he became coach, he was still talking about college games all the time. Krause’s theory was right in preparing for teenagers with the direct-to-pros era, so you want to get a college coach. He just got the wrong one.”


Kent McDill: “Tim Floyd was very much involved in the nightlife in Chicago. There was a place in Chicago called The Lodge and it was very popular. If you were the sort to be out at night, you would run into Tim there all the time. One time early in the season, Tim got kicked out of a home game for yelling at the refs and someone told me that before the game was over, Tim was at The Lodge. I thought, ‘That’s interesting.’ Well, beat writers meet with the coach before every game. Maybe a month later, during our pregame meeting, he was sitting in his office, his feet were up and he said something that [made me think], ‘He’s going to get thrown out tonight.’ After the meeting, I turned to another beat writer and predicted it. And he got thrown out that night! I don’t usually predict things like that, I just had a weird sense. It turned out he had party plans and he was, again, seen having a very good time at The Lodge that evening. Then, it happened a third time. Each time he was ejected, it was at home. The third time he got kicked out, we all just looked at each other like, ‘They must be having a drink special or something.’”


On recruiting McGrady and Jermaine O'Neal:

Corey Benjamin: “I had Arn Tellem as an agent and Arn represented a lot of star players. The Bulls were trying to sign free agents. I hosted Tracy McGrady, Tim Thomas and Jermaine O’Neal when we brought them in. I was there personally for those [meetings] because we were all represented by the same agent (Arn). I remember Jerry Krause told me, ‘If you can get them to sign, I’ll renew your contract.’ I don’t remember Tim Duncan coming in, but I know we wanted Duncan. But we weren’t offering them the money that other teams were offering. I remember Tracy and Jermaine telling me, ‘They’re offering me peanuts.’ They weren’t trying to max these guys out; they were trying to give these guys smaller contracts.”

Kent McDill: “That sounds right. The Bulls organization – whether it be Krause or Reinsdorf – thought that you would take a pay cut in order to be a member of the Chicago Bulls, that being associated with a franchise this successful is worth more than the money you can make elsewhere. Nobody, nobody, was buying that argument.”


On Brent Barry:

John Jackson: “Kukoc was the leading scorer and he’s a good, solid guy in the locker room, but he’s not someone who would step up and take the reins to the team. Brent Barry, who was a free-agent signing, was probably the closest thing they had to a leader at that point. But there wasn’t really a lot of strong leadership.”

Sam Smith: “The Bulls did make one significant free-agent acquisition that summer with Brent Barry. Jerry Krause had this thing where he always fell in love with certain players, like Dan Majerle, and talk about them all the time, which didn’t help them playing against Michael Jordan. Brent was one, but he was so turned off by the amateurish mess that this Bulls team was that he sort of checked out.”


On Michael Jordan vs Corey Benjamin:

Corey Benjamin: “Randy Brown, Ron Harper and Dickey Simpkins were Michael’s close friends. Those guys would always talk to Jordan on the phone and Jordan would always have stuff to say. I remember there was one particular moment when MJ said something to me and I told him, ‘I can get that.’ I was saying I could beat him one-on-one. We went back and forth, talking trash with each other for a month or two. Ron gassed it up a lot like, ‘He said he can get you, Mike! He thinks he can beat you!’ One day, Mike told Ron that he was going to come to our game [in Atlanta] and he told me, ‘I’m about to come see you.’ We’re at the game and they showed Mike walking into the game [on TV] and I knew right where he was headed. I’m in the training room with Ron and Randy, and MJ walks in there. He comes right over to me and says, ‘What did you say?!’ Remember, this is my childhood hero. I man up and I say, ‘I think I can get that.’ He told me, ‘I’ll be at your practice in a few days and we’ll see if you can get that.’”

Corey Benjamin: “We fly back to Chicago and at our next practice, I’m looking over my shoulder but I’m also thinking, ‘Yeah right, he’s not going to fly to Chicago just to play me.’ After practice, I’m walking off the court when MJ walks into the gym. He said, ‘I’m about to give you your chance.’ As a basketball player, it was the best feeling in the world to play one-on-one against Michael Jordan in front of everybody. The score was 11-9, just to let you know. Everybody says it was 11-0 or 11-1 or 11-2. He did get up to 7-0 pretty fast and I was amazed; I had never seen anything like that in my life. But the final score was 11-9 and it was the best one-on-one game I’ve ever played. It was like a dream come true.”

Kornel David: “MJ showed up and he just schooled him.


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Post#2 » by League Circles » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:22 pm

Man was Krause flawed
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Post#3 » by ThreeMileAllan » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:25 pm

lmao at the different recollections of the 1v1

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Post#4 » by prolific passer » Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:08 pm

History of the 99 Bulls?

They sucked!

The end.
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Post#5 » by dice » Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:55 pm

prolific passer wrote:History of the 99 Bulls?

They sucked!

The end.

i dunno, man. sounds like NYT best seller material to me
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Re: Oral History Of the 1999 Bulls 

Post#6 » by prolific passer » Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:14 am

dice wrote:
prolific passer wrote:History of the 99 Bulls?

They sucked!

The end.

i dunno, man. sounds like NYT best seller material to me

The bulls from 99-04. Oh what a mess it was.

Probably make it into those 80% off books that Walmart sells that nobody buys because they are just awful.
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Post#7 » by Am2626 » Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:56 am

prolific passer wrote:History of the 99 Bulls?

They sucked!

The end.


The only people that sucked were the 2 Jerry’s. 999 out of 1000 Owners would have done everything to keep that Dynasty intact. We are going on 25 years with one Eastern conference Finals appearance.
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Post#8 » by prolific passer » Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:00 am

Am2626 wrote:
prolific passer wrote:History of the 99 Bulls?

They sucked!

The end.


The only people that sucked were the 2 Jerry’s. 999 out of 1000 Owners would have done everything to keep that Dynasty intact. We are going on 25 years with one Eastern conference Finals appearance.

Could have probably kept the Dynasty going even if you got rid of everybody and just drafted better overall during that time.
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Post#9 » by ShadyMoney » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:25 am

I hated this team with all my heart
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Post#10 » by ChiTownHero1992 » Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:45 pm

Hush...this was part of the dark times that we do not speak of (99-04)
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Post#11 » by erlim » Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:22 am

One thing I thought was striking about the John Starks interview on Stacey King’s podcast last week was that Starks (and all our other players) didn’t want to run triangle, nor did Tim Floyd, but I guess it was a non negotiable mandate from Krause.
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Post#12 » by prolific passer » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:48 pm

erlim wrote:One thing I thought was striking about the John Starks interview on Stacey King’s podcast last week was that Starks (and all our other players) didn’t want to run triangle, nor did Tim Floyd, but I guess it was a non negotiable mandate from Krause.

Shows you how much of a mess Krause really was. Wanted to run the same offense that won 6 titles despite getting rid of all the coaches and players who ran it to those titles.
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Post#13 » by kodo » Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:17 pm

League Circles wrote:Man was Krause flawed


Too much ego. The #1 factor in all the Bulls titles was Michael, and Krause had nothing to do with Michael. He didn't even resign him, that was Jerry. And MJ had to go over Krause's head directly to Jerry several times. And Krause was going to fire PJ before the last season, and Jerry Reinsdorf overrode him and kept him. Reinsdorf also wanted both MJ & PJ to keep continuing as long as either wanted and would pay to to bring everyone back. Krause did want to blow it up, but Jerry would override him.

At the end of the day, Krause started out as a scout and that's what he was, a good scout. He was terrible at running an NBA team or forming relationships with the NBA superstars.
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Post#14 » by League Circles » Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:19 pm

kodo wrote:
League Circles wrote:Man was Krause flawed


Too much ego. The #1 factor in all the Bulls titles was Michael, and Krause had nothing to do with Michael. He didn't even resign him, that was Jerry. And MJ had to go over Krause's head directly to Jerry several times. And Krause was going to fire PJ before the last season, and Jerry Reinsdorf overrode him and kept him. Reinsdorf also wanted both MJ & PJ to keep continuing as long as either wanted and would pay to to bring everyone back. Krause did want to blow it up, but Jerry would override him.

At the end of the day, Krause started out as a scout and that's what he was, a good scout. He was terrible at running an NBA team or forming relationships with the NBA superstars.

I don't even think he was a good scout. He made tons of bad draft picks at various positions.

He basically invented, and wildly failed, at "the process".
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Post#15 » by SfBull » Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:15 pm

Reading a book about Jordan's time with the Wizards it was clear how he was looking for ending his career as a Bull.And he could have played for us if the 2 Jerry's weren't running the franchise.
The 99-04 Bulls could have been much better.
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Post#16 » by HoopsterJones » Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:41 pm

Reinsdorf should’ve stepped in and give MJ whatever he wanted to stay after 98 including replacing Krause.
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Post#17 » by prolific passer » Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:47 am

SfBull wrote:Reading a book about Jordan's time with the Wizards it was clear how he was looking for ending his career as a Bull.And he could have played for us if the 2 Jerry's weren't running the franchise.
The 99-04 Bulls could have been much better.

The bulls 2nd three peat team was old and could have been replenished a bit if Krause just drafted better. Jordan might have stayed if he felt he had a team that could continue to compete for another few years.
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Post#18 » by HomoSapien » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:15 am

prolific passer wrote:
SfBull wrote:Reading a book about Jordan's time with the Wizards it was clear how he was looking for ending his career as a Bull.And he could have played for us if the 2 Jerry's weren't running the franchise.
The 99-04 Bulls could have been much better.

The bulls 2nd three peat team was old and could have been replenished a bit if Krause just drafted better. Jordan might have stayed if he felt he had a team that could continue to compete for another few years.


People forget that the 98 Bulls were 36-8 when Pippen returned, and a staggering 25-2 after the All-Star break. They still had enough gas in the tank to compete in 99. Health would have been the biggest concern, but Pippen surprisingly managed to play the next two seasons without missing a game. Kukoc was also pretty healthy in 99. Jordan's finger is the biggest question mark.

We needlessly got rid of Jason Caffey in 98, and never really replaced him. A competent backup 4/5 to fill in for a foul-prone Longley or an erratic Rodman would have gone a long way, IMO.
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Post#19 » by bad knees » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:18 am

I remember listening to the radio broadcast of a game during that season. Like in February, when it was clear how horrific the team was. The radio guys - it was Funk and Pax - just could not believe their eyes. It came through in everything they said. I turned it off and remember feeling so bad for those guys, who had to sit and watch every game and try to make it meaningful, when in fact we had entered oblivion.
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Post#20 » by prolific passer » Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:09 am

HomoSapien wrote:
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SfBull wrote:Reading a book about Jordan's time with the Wizards it was clear how he was looking for ending his career as a Bull.And he could have played for us if the 2 Jerry's weren't running the franchise.
The 99-04 Bulls could have been much better.

The bulls 2nd three peat team was old and could have been replenished a bit if Krause just drafted better. Jordan might have stayed if he felt he had a team that could continue to compete for another few years.


People forget that the 98 Bulls were 36-8 when Pippen returned, and a staggering 25-2 after the All-Star break. They still had enough gas in the tank to compete in 99. Health would have been the biggest concern, but Pippen surprisingly managed to play the next two seasons without missing a game. Kukoc was also pretty healthy in 99. Jordan's finger is the biggest question mark.

We needlessly got rid of Jason Caffey in 98, and never really replaced him. A competent backup 4/5 to fill in for a foul-prone Longley or an erratic Rodman would have gone a long way, IMO.

Idk if Pippen stays but if the bulls take Finley over Caffey in 95 then they don't lose as much as they did.

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