The In-Season Tournament Thread
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I know there’s not much incentives for the players to be invested but I kinda love this ?
Regardless of how minuscule it means in the grand picture, it’s still exciting to see something new that doesn’t harm the product.
Regardless of how minuscule it means in the grand picture, it’s still exciting to see something new that doesn’t harm the product.
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Maybe winning this has been Masai's plan for the current roster lol.
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HumbleRen wrote:I know there’s no much incentives for the players to be invested but I kinda love this ?
Regardless of how minuscule it means in the grand picture, it’s still exciting to see something new that doesn’t harm the product.
It will be even better when they expand by 2 teams and they have 32 teams total. World cup format of 8 groups of 4, with the top 2 making it out of the group into a round of 16.
I think what happens is teams treat these games like every other regular season game early on, but the teams that make it to Vegas will place more importance on it.
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OakleyDokely wrote:HumbleRen wrote:I know there’s no much incentives for the players to be invested but I kinda love this ?
Regardless of how minuscule it means in the grand picture, it’s still exciting to see something new that doesn’t harm the product.
It will be even better when they expand by 2 teams and they have 32 teams total. World cup format of 8 groups of 4, with the top 2 making it out of the group into a round of 16.
I think what happens is teams treat these games like every other regular season game early on, but the teams that make it to Vegas will place more importance on it.
I think so too. Hope they give it a real try and don't scrap it after 1-2 years.
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HumbleRen wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:HumbleRen wrote:I know there’s no much incentives for the players to be invested but I kinda love this ?
Regardless of how minuscule it means in the grand picture, it’s still exciting to see something new that doesn’t harm the product.
It will be even better when they expand by 2 teams and they have 32 teams total. World cup format of 8 groups of 4, with the top 2 making it out of the group into a round of 16.
I think what happens is teams treat these games like every other regular season game early on, but the teams that make it to Vegas will place more importance on it.
I think so too. Hope they give it a real try and don't scrap it after 1-2 years.
The real incentive for the players is that if this thing grows into something big, a lot more revenue is generated which means bigger salaries, bigger max contracts.
If the NBA can make the summer league into a thing, they can make this into a thing. A neutral site like Vegas is perfect for this. No player will want to miss that trip.
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OakleyDokely wrote:HumbleRen wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:
It will be even better when they expand by 2 teams and they have 32 teams total. World cup format of 8 groups of 4, with the top 2 making it out of the group into a round of 16.
I think what happens is teams treat these games like every other regular season game early on, but the teams that make it to Vegas will place more importance on it.
I think so too. Hope they give it a real try and don't scrap it after 1-2 years.
The real incentive for the players is that if this things grows into something big, a lot more revenue is generated which means bigger salaries, bigger max contracts.
If the NBA can make the summer league into a thing, they can make this into a thing. A neutral site like Vegas is perfect for this. No player will want to miss that trip.
It'll carry more weight for the next generation of stars. It'll be a normalized thing that they grew up watching as opposed to legacy players who are used to a certain way.
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The regular season award that teams who peak in the regular season always dreamed of.
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Jcity08 wrote:The regular season award that teams who peak in the regular season always dreamed of.
They should call it the Kobe Cup
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OakleyDokely wrote:Jcity08 wrote:The regular season award that teams who peak in the regular season always dreamed of.
They should call it the Kobe Cup
That would be a good homage. I approve.
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HumbleRen wrote:I know there’s not much incentives for the players to be invested but I kinda love this ?
Regardless of how minuscule it means in the grand picture, it’s still exciting to see something new that doesn’t harm the product.
These guys fight over 20k gambling debts. Lebron didn’t want to pay for twitter blue, I think they'll care about the 500k. Even second place gets some
money. These tournament part of the regular season games will mean more than the non tournament regular season games.
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Friday night L in Orlando against the Magic to prevent us from qualifying u heard it here first. Fans calling for Masai and Bobby heads "we couldn't even make the regular season playoffs blow this **** up already"
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HumbleRen wrote:I know there’s not much incentives for the players to be invested but I kinda love this ?
Regardless of how minuscule it means in the grand picture, it’s still exciting to see something new that doesn’t harm the product.
I agree. Meaningful December basketball seems fine to me.
To me the way to make the games more meaningful just seems so obvious to me. Just simply make them worth more.
Have each regular season win worth 1 point, and then based on finishing position in the mid season tournament have additional points awarded to teams.
1st = 5 points
2nd = 3 points
3rd = 1 point
Essentially winning the tournament is worth 5 wins in the standings.
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Gimmicky stuff from Silver here
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YogurtProducer wrote:HumbleRen wrote:I know there’s not much incentives for the players to be invested but I kinda love this ?
Regardless of how minuscule it means in the grand picture, it’s still exciting to see something new that doesn’t harm the product.
I agree. Meaningful December basketball seems fine to me.
To me the way to make the games more meaningful just seems so obvious to me. Just simply make them worth more.
Have each regular season win worth 1 point, and then based on finishing position in the mid season tournament have additional points awarded to teams.
1st = 5 points
2nd = 3 points
3rd = 1 point
Essentially winning the tournament is worth 5 wins in the standings.
Especially with how much parity there is in the league. Perfect time to execute this.
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KL78192020 wrote:HumbleRen wrote:I know there’s not much incentives for the players to be invested but I kinda love this ?
Regardless of how minuscule it means in the grand picture, it’s still exciting to see something new that doesn’t harm the product.
These guys fight over 20k gambling debts. Lebron didn’t want to pay for twitter blue, I think they'll care about the 500k. Even second place gets some
money. These tournament part of the regular season games will mean more than the non tournament regular season games.
You might be spitting facts.
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HumbleRen wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:HumbleRen wrote:I know there’s not much incentives for the players to be invested but I kinda love this ?
Regardless of how minuscule it means in the grand picture, it’s still exciting to see something new that doesn’t harm the product.
I agree. Meaningful December basketball seems fine to me.
To me the way to make the games more meaningful just seems so obvious to me. Just simply make them worth more.
Have each regular season win worth 1 point, and then based on finishing position in the mid season tournament have additional points awarded to teams.
1st = 5 points
2nd = 3 points
3rd = 1 point
Essentially winning the tournament is worth 5 wins in the standings.
Especially with how much parity there is in the league. Perfect time to execute this.
Exactly.
This feels like a perfect time to execute divisions as well. I figured that would be the mid-season tournament qualifications (divisional record). They mean nothing else why not incorporate those somehow.
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The fact the games are just regular season games they play anyway, makes it all meaningless. Soccer as in the FA Cup and such play separate games. Plus they have a long tradition that can't be artificially created. Plus they have the underdog wrinkle of including teams from lower divisions.
If a player is due to sit for load management, is he going to be made to play because it's a tournament game? How are we supposed to be convinced that a handful of RS games are more important than the other RS games? It's all such a fabricated, artificial gimmick
If a player is due to sit for load management, is he going to be made to play because it's a tournament game? How are we supposed to be convinced that a handful of RS games are more important than the other RS games? It's all such a fabricated, artificial gimmick
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
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Tor_Raps wrote:Maybe winning this has been Masai's plan for the current roster lol.
Go all in for the Cup
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
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WaltFrazier wrote:The fact the games are just regular season games they play anyway, makes it all meaningless. Soccer as in the FA Cup and such play separate games. Plus they have a long tradition that can't be artificially created. Plus they have the underdog wrinkle of including teams from lower divisions.
If a player is due to sit for load management, is he going to be made to play because it's a tournament game? How are we supposed to be convinced that a handful of RS games are more important than the other RS games? It's all such a fabricated, artificial gimmick
MY guess is future iterations of the tournament will address some of the weirdness. Probably some weird rule baked into CBA's or what not that there is "82 regular season games". In the future I am sure we see like 72 regular season games plus the mid-season tournament get expanded and probably count towards the standings separately somehow.
Sports IS a gimmick so IDK why suddenly this is the line. The playoffs are a gimmick. Why should an 8th seed Heat have a chance to make the finals?
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