What is Mark Williams ceiling?

[RRR3]

Really looking like the Hornets hit a homerun on that pick. Last year in limited minutes he put up 9/7.1 with a block on elite efficiency. This year he’s averaging 15.4/9.9 on a ridiculous 74.1 TS% and he only plays around 25 MPG a night too. Today he just put up 21 points with 24 rebounds (15 offensive). If you watch him he’s absolutely massive and has a crazy wingspan and really impacts the game defensively as well. What is his ceiling? He has yet to turn 22 btw

[WillyJakkz]

He's got to get in the weight room (along with LaMelo) as he gets pushed around by physical Centers.

Duren effectively manhandled him and I think he's a better player than Duren. So his goal should be to get strong enough to battle Embiid as he is the class Center in the East. Especially if CHA wants to have a shot.

That said I really really like him. If he gets stronger then he'll be a menace. I don't know if he's that type of guy though.

He's currently in that Mitchell Robinson Jarrett Allen tier in the East but he has Top 5 C talent.

[EmpireFalls]

He has stretches of the game where anything even remotely near the rim is just swallowed up, and already has some of the prime Gobert stuff going on where guys don’t even look at going at him when he’s protecting the rim. His wingspan is absurd and in person he looks gigantic. He’s much more like 7’2”.

awesome soft hands and he can even shoot free throws.

His make or break skill will be developing his physicality. He needs to build up his core strength as well as improve his footspeed to be passable on the perimeter so he can be playable vs smaller lineups in crunch time. But I genuinely think he’s got the potential to be better than a prime Capela due to his soft touch.

[UcanUwill]

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Todays game highlights. Honestly, I ahevnt watched Hornets games at all recently, so I dont really know, but he does look very impressive, like Capela like, but quicker, more bounce, even bigger. Duren moved him? honestly find that hard to believe

[Duke4life831]

Just keep getting stronger and he has a great frame for that. I wont be shocked in 2-3 years he will be viewed as a strong big. Either than that, he is always going to be primarily a drop coverage big, but not one where teams will be able to just pick him apart for that. Give time and experience to go with his gigantic size, he will figure out the angles and all that. And to be clear, its not like he is Boban or something when it comes to his mobility.

He is already pretty damn good at defending vertically, and that with his size is already a hell of a weapon. I also think he has more offensive potential than most of these defensive first bigs. Great hands, he catches most things that come his way, and really solid touch as well, including his FTs. He's never going to be a guy you build your offense around, but he's kind of a guy that you want to get around that 10 FGAs per game whether that is from lobs or offensive put backs. Its worth getting him touches, compared to a lot of these other bigs where you can live most nights without them getting too many touches. And because of that, his ceiling is higher than guys like Capela, Robinson, Robert Williams and so on.

Great pick for them.

[JustBuzzin]

He's only playing 25mpg because we also have another good young backup center in Richards who should probably be starting on a lot of teams.

Good problem to have, but I feel Mark would be putting up crazy numbers if got more minutes.

[EmpireFalls]

I am knocking on wood heavily here but he kind of reminds me of Ohio State Greg Oden with a worse post game. Same soft hands, same ludicrous frame and wingspan, same sort of physicality where they aren’t super explosive or quick but still dominant physically.

[Duke4life831]

I am knocking on wood heavily here but he kind of reminds me of Ohio State Greg Oden with a worse post game. Same soft hands, same ludicrous frame and wingspan, same sort of physicality where they aren’t super explosive or quick but still dominant physically.

The soft hands and soft touch is pretty rare for a guy his size. And then you realize that basically Wemby is the only guy that is going to make him look small, the hands and touch is even more rare.

[EmpireFalls]

I am knocking on wood heavily here but he kind of reminds me of Ohio State Greg Oden with a worse post game. Same soft hands, same ludicrous frame and wingspan, same sort of physicality where they aren’t super explosive or quick but still dominant physically.

The soft hands and soft touch is pretty rare for a guy his size. And then you realize that basically Wemby is the only guy that is going to make him look small, the hands and touch is even more rare.

Yeah to put it into perspective his standing reach is 9’9”. Which is higher than Wemby’s, Boban’s, Gobert’s etc. the reason for this is extremely broad shoulders and huge hands.

Still can’t believe Caleb Love hit that shot over him in 22.

[Duke4life831]

I am knocking on wood heavily here but he kind of reminds me of Ohio State Greg Oden with a worse post game. Same soft hands, same ludicrous frame and wingspan, same sort of physicality where they aren’t super explosive or quick but still dominant physically.

The soft hands and soft touch is pretty rare for a guy his size. And then you realize that basically Wemby is the only guy that is going to make him look small, the hands and touch is even more rare.

Yeah to put it into perspective his standing reach is 9’9”. Which is higher than Wemby’s, Boban’s, Gobert’s etc. the reason for this is extremely broad shoulders and huge hands.

Still can’t believe Caleb Love hit that shot over him in 22.

You just had to go there and ruin it all for me haha.

[RRR3]

Wait he has a higher standing reach than Wemby??!? HOW?!!??

[76ciology]

Imagine starting Kai Jones and Mark Williams at the 4&5 lol

[shrink]

10 foot, vaulted

[76ciology]

Ceiling? Maybe Shaq-lite. Hard to stop once he gets it near the rim. Combination of size and athleticism make it easy passing target.

[RRR3]

Ceiling? Maybe Shaq-lite.

So Dwight Howard?

[Diop]

Imagine starting Kai Jones and Mark Williams at the 4&5 lol

imagine starting Wemby and Williams at the 4&5, we were until the draft lottery last year.

[KembaWalker]

Hard to really tell how good he is yet. Teams are kind of ignoring him to play 5 out and raining 3s all over the Hornets. Yeah he had a great game against the Wizards, but they played the Wizards the game before that too and got lit up because they had no answer for Gallinari at the 5.

Teams have basically been letting Mark and Nick Richards do whatever they want resulting in these crazy high FG%s but it comes at a major cost, they are allowing 3s at a 39% rate because it's not hard at all to get an open shot when one of those 2 is on the floor, and shooting 29% from 3 themselves because they can't fully stretch the floor like other teams

[GoBobs]

Hard to really tell how good he is yet. Teams are kind of ignoring him to play 5 out and raining 3s all over the Hornets. Yeah he had a great game against the Wizards, but they played the Wizards the game before that too and got lit up because they had no answer for Gallinari at the 5.

Teams have basically been letting Mark and Nick Richards do whatever they want resulting in these crazy high FG%s but it comes at a major cost, they are allowing 3s at a 39% rate because it's not hard at all to get an open shot when one of those 2 is on the floor, and shooting 29% from 3 themselves because they can't fully stretch the floor like other teams

Pretty much this exactly. Gobert with a little better offense is most likely.

The big question is can he force teams to put a big guy on him because otherwise he punishes them inside, or do they shot so many threes we go small.

[brutalitops]

He has the hardest job known to man in attempting to cover blown defensive assignments of the charlotte hornets perimeter defenders. One of those things where you should have 3-4 guys on it, but management has made cutbacks and it's one man doing 3 peoples job

And I mean, He's looking pretty average doing it, but I dont know who could make that job work,

Right now he's benefiting from a really good mix of offensive players a young big would like to play with, multiple 6'6-'68" guys who can pass, shoot, Defend if the opposition just wants to play iso-1v1.

I mean, A lot of his numbers are super inflated, But takes someone to do it, he has long **** arms as well, has really good potential

[iggymcfrack]

Holy ****, it was 21 and 24??? I thought it was just 21 and 21! Dude's insane!!! I'd never really paid attention to him until I drafted him in fantasy, but his explosiveness and jumping ability are out of this world! He's my favorite new player to watch that I hadn't seen before this season.

Like I really can't even think of a player to compare him to. The closest I can come is honestly a young Shaq, but leaner and quicker. I'm not saying he's that good, but he really feels like a force. And he's still just learning the NBA game. He just passed 1000 career minutes this week.

To answer the question, I think his ceiling's sky high. He could absolutely be an all-NBA player at the very least. I'd say he could be first team if the NBA wasn't so ridiculously stacked at center, but that's going to be a big ask with all the incredible bigs in the league right now.