Pickled Prunes wrote:dirkdiggler4177 wrote:Pickled Prunes wrote:Nope, not a Hawks fan, or a fan of players in general with huge stat lines that don't defend. (Could include Luka and Trae in that.) Just pointing out that it wasn't a 1-1 trade. I'm sorry if that is just too complicated for your mind to process.
My mind can understand it. But it is stupid. Nobody compares trades in that fashion because the storyline becomes different. If Mavs keep Young it does not mean they get 30% Murray. The odds of that happening are 0. So you can't compare the trades like that. What one team did with the assets does not matter because it does not mean the other team would have done the same or even been in the situation to do it.
Yeah, I don't think you understand at all. Was Durant traded for Bridges? Do we evaluate that trade based on their performance alone? How about Harden for Simmons, where Simmons was essentially salary filer and a calculated loss? Trades (and their ramifications) can be complex. If you choose to dumb it down to "player X was traded for player Y", that's all you. But to assume that "nobody compares trades in that fashion" is short-sighted. Of course they do... that's why a 1st was included in the deal. Both teams knew Luka was better at the time, so to say DAL won the trade because Luka is better is missing the point.
The trade was Luka for Trae and a future 1st. That 1st is still tied up in assets ATL possess, so it must be accounted for. If that 1st became a player that had fallen out of the league or was sitting at the end of a bench somewhere, that would be one thing. But Murray is currently one of the most talked about trade targets by contenders. As long as the 1st acquired in that deal is still an asset, it must be included as part of the equation.
I said at the time of the trade and I said it again in my first post in this thread, I think DAL won that trade. But the idea that this was not a 1-for-1 trade is a pretty rudimentary concept. You should try and wrap your head around it because it will come up again and again. Most trades aren't 1-for-1.
I never said it was 1 for 1 player trade, it also involved a first-round pick. The Hawks selected Reddish. Some will say it was Reddish and Young for Luka, but what if the trade did not happen? Would the Mavs have picked Reddish? They Could for example have picked a worse player than Reddish or even got Tyler Herro.
I have just never seen someone break down a trade where you take 30% of a player. Like for example, can you break down this trade? Like, think of all the links and things that happen for this trade. I also would to see a thread where people discuss trade in that fashion. I have never seen it.
February 1, 2008: Traded by the Memphis Grizzlies with a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Devin Ebanks was later selected) to the Los Angeles Lakers for Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, Marc Gasol, Aaron McKie, a 2008 1st round draft pick (Donté Greene was later selected) and a 2010 1st round draft pick (Greivis Vásquez was later selected).
