Current Jokic or Prime Steph Curry? Who was the more impactful player?

guynumber45 · Post #1 » by **guynumber45** » Wed May 22, 2024 7:20 am

Which of these players do you think is better and has more impact on the game?

SlimShady83 · Post #2 » by **SlimShady83** » Wed May 22, 2024 7:22 am

Not a real fan of either and don't hate any of them, going with Curry

GusFring · Post #3 » by **GusFring** » Wed May 22, 2024 7:45 am

art_tatum · Post #4 » by **art_tatum** » Wed May 22, 2024 8:27 am

Curry more impact in the regular season and more success in the post season. Their "system" is pretty much him. We saw what green was without curry in 2020.

Joker will have better stats and per bc he's a center with the ball in his hands = way more rebounds and. Assists. But curry's asymmetrical offense is a backbreaker against teams. That's why he sat all those 4th quarters in 2016. IMO they would've been almost just as successful if KD never came and they used that money on someone better than a Harrison Barnes who bricked all his open corner 3s vs the cavs.

BlzMwt · Post #5 » by **BlzMwt** » Wed May 22, 2024 8:32 am

art_tatum wrote:Curry more impact in the regular season and more success in the post season. Their "system" is pretty much him. We saw what green was without curry in 2020.

Joker will have better stats and per bc he's a center with the ball in his hands = way more rebounds and. Assists. But curry's asymmetrical offense is a backbreaker against teams. That's why he sat all those 4th quarters in 2016. IMO they would've been almost just as successful if KD never came and they used that money on someone better than a Harrison Barnes who bricked all his open corner 3s vs the cavs.

You think that Jokic has the ball in his hands more than Curry?

Curry has more success in the postseason? By what measure? Rings? I wonder what Jokic would do with a prime Klay Thompson/Draymond Green.... or even a peak Kevin Durant?

Lalouie · Post #6 » by **Lalouie** » Wed May 22, 2024 9:05 am

prime curry also meant prime kd, dray, klay

jokic by far.

prime jokic teammates don't even sniff those guys' musk

Message Boar · Post #7 » by **Message Boar** » Wed May 22, 2024 9:31 am

Yeah this is Jokic for me, even if I did have to think about it for a bit. Both very impactful obviously, but Curry had a way better supporting cast so hence more of a guarantee of postseason success. Great players with a huge size advantage will almost always impact the game more compared to small guards, no matter how skilled.

art_tatum · Post #8 » by **art_tatum** » Wed May 22, 2024 9:33 am

BlzMwt wrote:
art_tatum wrote:Curry more impact in the regular season and more success in the post season. Their "system" is pretty much him. We saw what green was without curry in 2020.

Joker will have better stats and per bc he's a center with the ball in his hands = way more rebounds and. Assists. But curry's asymmetrical offense is a backbreaker against teams. That's why he sat all those 4th quarters in 2016. IMO they would've been almost just as successful if KD never came and they used that money on someone better than a Harrison Barnes who bricked all his open corner 3s vs the cavs.

You think that Jokic has the ball in his hands more than Curry?

Curry has more success in the postseason? By what measure? Rings? I wonder what Jokic would do with a prime Klay Thompson/Draymond Green.... or even a peak Kevin Durant?

Curry moves off ball to create shots for teammates, joker is a point center. Joker will get the assists and rebounds. Both contribute to winning but joker will get more basic stats.

Yes curry has had more success in the post season.
Klay Thompson is bi polar. Killed the okc thunder, sucked vs cavs. In the 2015 finals clinching game he scored 5 points or 0 points forgot.

Draymond green would be useless playing with joker.
Terrible fit.
Like I said the the warriors would've been pretty much just as successful with someone else joining them instead of Durant. Or even just letting Barnes get better. They had a max slot. Curry won in 2022 without KD again with Wiggins as the 2nd best player by then. Yes he's had more success.

nazario · Post #9 » by **nazario** » Wed May 22, 2024 10:23 am

Lalouie wrote:prime curry also meant prime kd, dray, klay

jokic by far.

prime jokic teammates don't even sniff those guys' musk

Funny that Curry won it just a year before Joker did, where prime Klay and Dray definitely wasn't a thing.
In fact, the three of them had only played a combined 11 minutes or something together since 2019 when they entered that postseason.

giordunk · Post #10 » by **giordunk** » Wed May 22, 2024 10:31 am

I'm a Warriors homer so I'm voting Steph, but I would completely understand anyone who picks Jokić. Just an absolute master of the game and able to impact the team in so many different ways. However prime Steph was pretty much a cheat code where you knew the Warriors always had a chance to win the game.

KnicksGadfly · Post #11 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Wed May 22, 2024 1:06 pm

This is Kevin Durant getting open fast break dunks in the NBA finals cause of Steph Curry.

Optms · Post #12 » by **Optms** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:19 pm

Curry led a 73 win team, and won 4 titles. Destroyed a team with peak Lebron on the other side, transformed a laughing stock franchise into a juggernaut. Transformed the game while anchoring a dynasty.

Joke thread

dhsilv2 · Post #13 » by **dhsilv2** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:27 pm

Didn't we just have this thread?

But still Jokic for me due to his lower ceiling and ability to mesh with more units. At their best...it's Curry though.

KGtabake · Post #14 » by **KGtabake** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:36 pm

A bit unfair comparison.
Curry is probably the most impactful player in the history of the game.

Post #15 » by **Harry Garris** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:39 pm

I think Jokic honestly, and I love Steph. Curry has had much better teammates throughout his career so I'm not going to purely attribute his greater level of success to Steph's individual impact.

Post #16 » by **Harry Garris** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:42 pm

KGtabake wrote:A bit unfair comparison.
Curry is probably the most impactful player in the history of the game.

Definitely not. I don't know why "impact" is sometimes put into this different category than who the best player is, as if you can be not as good as the best player in the NBA but somehow more impactful.

They are pretty much the same thing. The most impactful player in NBA history was Michael Jordan because he was the best player in NBA history. At #2 I'd put Lebron, and then keep going down the list mirroring the best players ever with the most impactful players ever.

If Steph Curry was more impactful (by which we mean positively impactful on winning basketball games) than Michael Jordan, he would be the GOAT.

Mogspan · Post #17 » by **Mogspan** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:44 pm

Definitely Jokić. Curry’s played with several HoF players at their peaks. Jokić’s best teammate hasn’t come close to making an All-Star team.

There’s just no way he loses in 2016 with the OP squad that Steph had.

Infinite Llamas · Post #18 » by **Infinite Llamas** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:46 pm

Curry
Murray
MPJ
Gordon
Deandre

…that team isn’t winning anything.

KGtabake · Post #19 » by **KGtabake** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:46 pm

Harry Garris wrote:
KGtabake wrote:A bit unfair comparison.
Curry is probably the most impactful player in the history of the game.

Definitely not. I don't know why "impact" is sometimes put into this different category than who the best player is, as if you can be not as good as the best player in the NBA but somehow more impactful.

They are pretty much the same thing. The most impactful player in NBA history was Michael Jordan because he was the best player in NBA history. At #2 I'd put Lebron, and then keep going down the list mirroring the best players ever with the most impactful players ever.

If Steph Curry was more impactful (by which we mean positively impactful on winning basketball games) than Michael Jordan, he would be the GOAT.

I don't agree with this simply because i define impact differently.
Curry is the reason the game has changed in the last decade. All this talk about stretching the floor, spacing, shooting.
He even affected the way we want bigs to play.

Jordan didn't do that. Neither LeBron or anyone else.

UglyBugBall · Post #20 » by **UglyBugBall** » Wed May 22, 2024 2:50 pm

BlzMwt wrote:
art_tatum wrote:Curry more impact in the regular season and more success in the post season. Their "system" is pretty much him. We saw what green was without curry in 2020.

Joker will have better stats and per bc he's a center with the ball in his hands = way more rebounds and. Assists. But curry's asymmetrical offense is a backbreaker against teams. That's why he sat all those 4th quarters in 2016. IMO they would've been almost just as successful if KD never came and they used that money on someone better than a Harrison Barnes who bricked all his open corner 3s vs the cavs.

You think that Jokic has the ball in his hands more than Curry?

Curry has more success in the postseason? By what measure? Rings? I wonder what Jokic would do with a prime Klay Thompson/Draymond Green.... or even a peak Kevin Durant?

We just saw jokic flame out of the second round with an all time team around him. Curry has choked, but he saved it for the finals at least.