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So AK can now blame JR. Great. Useless.

Who was the top ten team? Rockets?

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Wooooow - if this leak is accurate, that would make it one of the first major leaks from this front office.

Also - boy, Reinsdorf sucks.

Chi town wrote:So AK can now blame JR. Great. Useless.

Who was the top ten team? Rockets?

Yep and it was probably the Nets pick too which ended up top 3.

It may not be a leak. Could be agents talking.

Shouldn’t surprise anyone here. We all know what this franchise is.

1: May be true that ownership wanted to mandate a win now approach. That said, nothing AK has ever done or said makes me think he was going to do anything else anyway. This sounds like someone searching for cover to me.

2: It directly contradicts AKs own words of saying they had approval to do a rebuild if they wanted. Interesting to know if that is really true or if he's providing some cover for ownership.

3: AK put himself in this box either way by making a bunch of dumb ass win now moves, so even if true, it makes me feel 0 better about AK but does make me now feel even worse about ownership.

So I say Michael Reinsdorf saw the roster that had been assembled, thought they were playing well without Zach Lavine, Patrick Williams was out but hadn't been part of the offense, Ayo and Coby were improving and thought maybe DeRozan could lead them to the play off or play in. It could well be he wanted one last run with this group before being done with them. He took the wrong path and even MR sees that.

Yeah it feeds the owners and management are idiots that so many want to cling to but STOP a second and name that Top 10 pick team that was going to give up their pick and another for Caruso. Jazz to get where? Memphis with or without Ja? HOU was not going to give up the 3rd pick for AC, get serious. Blazers to take on even more salary and push their kids even farther down the bench? So it took Four months for this to come out?

All of that is old news and don't mean s--t.

Today is what matters is who wants not just AC but Zach, Demar and Vuc.

Outside of KC there isn't a person to trust who covers the Bulls. They are all disgruntled and whiny. I don't believe this for a second.

Who cares. AC is still worth more than a top 10 pick whether it was before the deadline or now. If they want to trade him they can still do it now despite his contract expiring next year.

Reinsdorf and AK wanted to make the playoffs, they wanted our team to win! There’s nothing wrong with that.

Red8911 wrote:Who cares. AC is still worth more than a top 10 pick whether it was before the deadline or now. If they want to trade him they can still do it now despite his contract expiring next year.

Reinsdorf and AK wanted to make the playoffs, they wanted our team to win! There’s nothing wrong with that.

His value is definitely less now than it was at the deadline last year. He had two playoff runs in him, now he has one.

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Delusion. We’re turning down top ten lottery picks for players who won’t be on our team in a year so we can hope to get swept in the first round by a real team?

Side note: this is directly at odds with the multiple reports that the FO has given AK the green light to blow it up. But could just be they their position changed at the deadline.

this is a really bad sign! caruso is maybe our most valuable asset, he should be worth way more than a contender than he is to us, and our window to capitalize on his value is closing very soon. it also happens that caruso plays a position we're relatively deep at, and one of our best young prospects fills as similar role to him.

there should be zero debate about what we should do with alex caruso. we should feel an urgent need to trade him this offseason. if we don't, i will feel even worse about a front office and ownership group that i already think very little of.

Red8911 wrote:Who cares. AC is still worth more than a top 10 pick whether it was before the deadline or now. If they want to trade him they can still do it now despite his contract expiring next year.

Reinsdorf and AK wanted to make the playoffs, they wanted our team to win! There’s nothing wrong with that.

Doing stupid things to win doesn’t make them not stupid.

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Delusion. We’re turning down top ten lottery picks for players who won’t be on our team in a year so we can hope to get swept in the first round by a real team?

Side note: this is directly at odds with the multiple reports that the FO has given AK the green light to blow it up. But could just be they their position changed at the deadline.

Have there been any "reports" that AK has the green light, as opposed to just taking AK for his word at his press conference? I haven't seen anything scooped from inside the org about it, so this could easily be a thing where AK is providing cover to Reinsdorf by saying he has the green light, or just an ego thing where he's asserting that he has full roster control and doesn't want to admit he doesn't.

If this is true, I am done. I will not return to following this franchise ever. You can only make so much amount of stupid moves, before your franchise becomes stale piece of horse ??it

I really don't believe that they turned down a top 10 pick for Caruso. Or there was more to the story like it involved a second player or taking back bad salary. Especially now that we're seeing stories about trading up, I can't believe the team management/ownership just completely changed course after two months from "we have a good team that can win" to "we need young talent even if it means trading useful players".

I bet Caruso is in trade talks right now for a top 10 pick (or the main piece in a trade for one) and this is just your typical smoke screen to weaken the Bulls' negotiating position. Or strengthen it, I can't really tell who benefits from this story. Regardless, I choose to believe that management isn't quite that stupid (I know they're stupid but there's a level to it).

Not surprised at all. This ownership prioritizes revenue over rings and a rebuild and avoiding the luxury tax in order to get that tax revenue.

This franchise is a joke.

jnrjr79 wrote:Have there been any "reports" that AK has the green light, as opposed to just taking AK for his word at his press conference? I haven't seen anything scooped from inside the org about it, so this could easily be a thing where AK is providing cover to Reinsdorf by saying he has the green light, or just an ego thing where he's asserting that he has full roster control and doesn't want to admit he doesn't.

If the EVP says directly that he has the authority to do it, why would it require a scoop?

You are right that he may have said that to provide cover, but there's no reason anyone would report or dig for anything else given he discussed it publicly and could have trivially dodged the question with something generic like "We'll always explore all options in our pursuit of building a team that will compete for the title".

While who knows what was going on, there's really no reason to think AK wants to do a rebuild based on his words or actions.