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iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87

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iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87 

Post#1 » by EnigmatiC » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:26 am

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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#4 » by EnigmatiC » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:41 am

Def kills the mood a bit if we are losing iHart. I wonder what their plan is at center bc we obviously can't rely on Mitch.
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#5 » by R-DAWG » Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:59 am

EnigmatiC wrote:Def kills the mood a bit if we are losing iHart. I wonder what their plan is at center bc we obviously can't rely on Mitch.



Get used to this. The Knicks don’t have roster flexibility for the foreseeable future
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#6 » by Kidknick! » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:13 am

Begley don't have the sauces... I ain't worried.
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#7 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:15 am

EnigmatiC wrote:Def kills the mood a bit if we are losing iHart. I wonder what their plan is at center bc we obviously can't rely on Mitch.

Clingan drops to #6.

Can we work a deal out?

Charlotte fan here.

I was thinking salary relief and #6 pick + Dallas future 1st for Randle.
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#8 » by sol537 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:20 am

We’re keeping OG
We’re keeping IHart
We’re keeping Thibs
We’re keeping Precious
We may even keep Burks

We’re going into the third apron. Dolan is all in.
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#9 » by Spree2Houston » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:22 am

The following teams have cap space to go after Hartenstein

Detroit Pistons: $64 million
Philadelphia 76ers: $55 million
Orlando Magic: $49 million
Utah Jazz: $38 million
Oklahoma City Thunder: $35 million
San Antonio Spurs: $21 million

1) Detroit - Their starting Center is Duren. They just paid Cade. They probably won’t pay Hartenstein big money to be a backup big

2) Philadelphia - They’re going big fishing hunting and Embiid is making big money at C

3) Orlando - This team is a possibility if they don’t believe in Wendell Carter Jr.

4) Utah - They have Walker Kessler

5) OKC - They have to resign their guys soon and can’t have Hartenstein eating up cap space.

6) San Antonio - Webanyama

Im not sure which of these teams will throw more than 20 million at Hartenstein. I think he ends up coming back
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#10 » by HopelessKnick » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:09 am

Can we still sign someone to the MLE?? If yes then sign Jonas Valanciunas....durable and still gives you a double double....
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#11 » by kNicksGmen » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:17 am

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EnigmatiC wrote:Def kills the mood a bit if we are losing iHart. I wonder what their plan is at center bc we obviously can't rely on Mitch.



Get used to this. The Knicks don’t have roster flexibility for the foreseeable future

losing ihart actually gives them a bit more flexibility. unless you're referring to not having draft capital for trades?

a cap expert can correct me but if we don't resign i-hart but sign OG to like 40 per - do we then have the full MLE available?
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#12 » by Bob Ross » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:24 am

I dont get why the trade impacts ihart. Can someone explain?
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#13 » by RHODEY » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:25 am

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NYK free agent C Isaiah Hartenstein is expected to be a top target for several opposing teams in free agency. With the offers that Hartenstein is expected to command on open market, it’s become increasingly unlikely that NYK will be able to retain Hartenstein, per SNY sources


This is not news. We knew some other team could pay him more. But the only threat was OKC. The other suitors are Detriot, Charlotte,.
He's not going to Detroit or Charlotte..no way no how.

It's between us and OKC. OKC could throw a boatload at him but they are unlikely to offer more than a 2 year contract. Because they have to resign their own players. In addition they just traded for Caruso ...who'll need to get paid in a year.

So likely it will be our 4 year offer versus their offer. Before this Begley regurgitation it was believed Ihart would resign. Nothing has changed. Nothing except we have gotten even better as a team. This is FAKE news.I think Ihart will stay.
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#14 » by Context » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:29 am

this will be up to Ihart...
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#15 » by RHODEY » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:43 am

OK so now I get it. It's either Mitch or Ihart ...to avoid the 2nd apron.

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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#16 » by aggo » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:45 am

RHODEY wrote:OK so now I get it. It's either Mitch or Ihart ...to avoid the 2nd apron.


Always has been,

Some of us have been saying it since the spring.
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#17 » by El Poochio » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:17 am

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EnigmatiC wrote:Def kills the mood a bit if we are losing iHart. I wonder what their plan is at center bc we obviously can't rely on Mitch.

Clingan drops to #6.

Can we work a deal out?

Charlotte fan here.

I was thinking salary relief and #6 pick + Dallas future 1st for Randle.


I would be all over that

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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#18 » by Adelheid » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:22 am

jinx mode - "thank you for your services - once a knick, always a knick"
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#19 » by NY2k1 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:32 am

To me, it’s either between the Knicks, OKC or the Magic.
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Re: Begley: Unlikely Knicks to Retain Hartenstein 

Post#20 » by HopelessKnick » Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:22 am

NY2k1 wrote:To me, it’s either between the Knicks, OKC or the Magic.


I actually think Orlando is the only real threat. I looked at OKC's cap situation. Two years from now Williams and Holmgreen will be due for extensions....I think it is fair to assume both will get at least around 30mill. With SGA on the books at 41mill. already you'd have around 100mill. committed to these 3 guys. Caruso is likely going to get around 15mill. as well. Dortz is a team option at 17mill. I simply do not see them comitting 20+ mill. on Hartenstein. I think they'll be looking at Center option that they can get for the MLE or less.

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