BBall Paul on the trade block - make your offers!

Arsenal · Post #1 » by **Arsenal** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:12 pm

The Sixers appear to have replaced Paul Reed with Andre Drummond and Adem Bona.

So it makes sense to trade him for pure cap to open up $10m more of cap space for another forward.

Therefore, who will trade picks for Reed into cap space, or into an exception which is also allowed now?

His contract is $7.7m this year and $8.1m next year, both unguaranteed but you'll have to guarantee it to trade match.

Make all offers here!

Post #2 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:16 pm

I feel like any team that has cap space and is interested in Reed would just wait until Philly releases him and then sign him directly.

Maybe some team gives up a 2nd and/or cash just to avoid the uncertainty of FA? But I wouldn't expect must more than that. Reed is a fine player but no one is structuring their offseason around him.

SkyHook · Post #3 » by **SkyHook** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:32 pm

Utah may have renewed interest in him once he's waived.

Post #4 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:42 pm

If the Knicks stop screwing around and do what they have to do to get under the apron and re-sign Hartenstein, I think OKC might work.

Post #5 » by **Mavrelous** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:42 pm

PHI need his contract, his contract + 7.5 gets you to 15M in case PHI wants to trade for forward help (DFS for example...)

Post #6 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:57 pm

Mavrelous wrote:PHI need his contract, his contract + 7.5 gets you to 15M in case PHI wants to trade for forward help (DFS for example...)

They don't have a way to get that other 7.5 though. They're basically capped out if they keep Paul post-PG and Drummond signings.

Post #7 » by **Mavrelous** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 1:59 pm

gswhoops wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:PHI need his contract, his contract + 7.5 gets you to 15M in case PHI wants to trade for forward help (DFS for example...)

They don't have a way to get that other 7.5 though. They're basically capped out if they keep Paul post-PG and Drummond signings.

Salary matching rules allow for extra 7.5, they really lack forward depth and 3&D players in general that's their only way to get one.

Post #8 » by **165bows** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:00 pm

jbk1234 wrote:If the Knicks stop screwing around and do what they have to do to get under the apron and re-sign Hartenstein, I think OKC might work.

How about straight to the Knicks?

Post #9 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:02 pm

165bows wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:If the Knicks stop screwing around and do what they have to do to get under the apron and re-sign Hartenstein, I think OKC might work.

How about straight to the Knicks?

They're presently over the 1st apron. Both teams can't save money.

Post #10 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:03 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
gswhoops wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:PHI need his contract, his contract + 7.5 gets you to 15M in case PHI wants to trade for forward help (DFS for example...)

They don't have a way to get that other 7.5 though. They're basically capped out if they keep Paul post-PG and Drummond signings.

Salary matching rules allow for extra 7.5, they really lack forward depth and 3&D players in general that's their only way to get one.

Maybe I'm missing something (I feel like there's always something I'm missing with the new CBA rules) but if Paul only makes $7.7M, how are they bringing back $15M? 125% plus $100k would top them out at $9.7M and change

Post #11 » by **Mavrelous** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:05 pm

gswhoops wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
gswhoops wrote:They don't have a way to get that other 7.5 though. They're basically capped out if they keep Paul post-PG and Drummond signings.

Salary matching rules allow for extra 7.5, they really lack forward depth and 3&D players in general that's their only way to get one.

Maybe I'm missing something (I feel like there's always something I'm missing with the new CBA rules) but if Paul only makes $7.7M, how are they bringing back $15M? 125% plus $100k would top them out at $9.7M and change

Under 1st apron teams, when trading for less the 25M, can match the 125% + 100K or 7.5M difference.

Post #12 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:07 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
gswhoops wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Salary matching rules allow for extra 7.5, they really lack forward depth and 3&D players in general that's their only way to get one.

Maybe I'm missing something (I feel like there's always something I'm missing with the new CBA rules) but if Paul only makes $7.7M, how are they bringing back $15M? 125% plus $100k would top them out at $9.7M and change

Under 1st apron teams, when trading for less the 25M, can match the 125% + 100K or 7.5M difference.

But at 15m they would be over the first apron as far as I have seen.

Post #13 » by **Mavrelous** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:12 pm

HartfordWhalers wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
gswhoops wrote:Maybe I'm missing something (I feel like there's always something I'm missing with the new CBA rules) but if Paul only makes $7.7M, how are they bringing back $15M? 125% plus $100k would top them out at $9.7M and change

Under 1st apron teams, when trading for less the 25M, can match the 125% + 100K or 7.5M difference.

But at 15m they would be over the first apron as far as I have seen.

If so, then scrap it, but I'd try hard to fit DFS under the 1st Apron, more useful player than Paul...

Post #14 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:16 pm

jbk1234 wrote:If the Knicks stop screwing around and do what they have to do to get under the apron and re-sign Hartenstein, I think OKC might work.

Well, he could be a last resort for the Pels.

Post #15 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:35 pm

Mavrelous wrote:
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:Under 1st apron teams, when trading for less the 25M, can match the 125% + 100K or 7.5M difference.

But at 15m they would be over the first apron as far as I have seen.

If so, then scrap it, but I'd try hard to fit DFS under the 1st Apron, more useful player than Paul...

Yeah it's close but I don't think it quite works. Spotrac has them at $160M post-Maxey extension, and the first apron number is $172.3, so if they trade Reed for DFS they would be only $5M below the first apron with 6 roster spots to fill.

If they could convince Brooklyn to take McClain instead of a future pick, it might work.

hugepatsfan · Post #16 » by **hugepatsfan** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 2:51 pm

You're probably looking at either adding picks to him to get a valuable player making $10-13M.

Or you just trade him as an expiring for a different player of the same caliber at a different spot.

PHI has the picks to add. Problem is, not too many guys worth giving picks for make $10-13M.

bgrep14 · Post #17 » by **bgrep14** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:35 pm

Cavs will give you Niang back for Paul Reed haha

psman2 · Post #18 » by **psman2** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 3:46 pm

Memphis offers Zaire/cash/2 2nds. Zaire/cash/2nd to 3rd team like Det or Wash and a 2nd back to Philly.

Paul is likely the best use of Philly cap space as it is though.

Saul Goodman · Post #19 » by **Saul Goodman** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 5:42 pm

a sign and trade with the Raptors for Gary Trent? Give the Raptors a bunch of 2nds and Reed. Trent can be a perfect 5th starter

Post #20 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Mon Jul 1, 2024 5:47 pm

I think Trent would be undersized for pf, and I am not convinced of his defense even not there.