ATL-CHI-GSW-NOP Trade

rambo_ortega · Post #1 » by **rambo_ortega** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:42 pm

Hawks Get:
Zach Lavine

They get another superstar SG who can help shift their offense to more uptempo

Trae/Lavine/Risacher/Hunter/Okongwu

Bulls Get:
Andrew Wiggins
Kevon Looney
Gary Payton II
Moses Moody
GSW 1st

This is a salary dump and pick generation move for the Bulls

Giddey/White/Wiggins/Williams/Looney

Warriors Get:
Brandon Ingram
Nikola Vucevic

Maximizing Curry's remaining years remains a priority and this is an ideal move for them

Curry/Podz/Ingram/Green/Vucevic
Melton/Hield/Kuminga/Anderson/TJD

Pelicans Get:
Clint Capela
Bogdan Bogdanovic
ATL 2nd

Adding a defensive minded Center makes their starting line up very solid. They also add veteran scoring off the bench

Murray/CJ/Jones/Zion/Capela

Post #2 » by **gswhoops** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:44 pm

I think this is pretty far off for New Orleans. Vuc is maybe worth expirings at this point.

NW · Post #3 » by NW » Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:49 pm

Yeah, NO gets screwed.

How the Bulls get the guy that makes the most sense for NO (Capela) and get draft picks for dumping two contracts they’re begging to get rid of in LaVine and Vuc just doesn’t track imo

ChettheJet · Post #4 » by **ChettheJet** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:00 pm

People want to act like Vucevic is in a wheelchair, for a team like NOP with no center, I think he looks good for 2 years while they hunt for the long term answer.

I really don't like Wiggins for the length of his contract and I don't know how he'll play on a team without 2-3 all NBA players in the lineup. That said I'd do this getting off of Lavine and Vucevic completes the off season reboot without giving up anything else or taking back too much. Capela expiring, Payton traded or released and picks are fun to get. If the Bulls end up with

Giddey Dosunmu Terry
White Duarte Ball
Capela Smith Sanogo
Williams Craig
Wiggins Phillips Buzelis

not ideal, would rather have a PF than Wiggins, could just as soon move Terry and have Javonte Green on the roster

PELICANSFAN · Post #5 » by **PELICANSFAN** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:11 pm

Vucevic an all star center? Come on. They guy is pretty much done. He was a stretch 5 who can no longer shoot. He has no value.

Post #6 » by **gswhoops** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:24 pm

ChettheJet wrote:People want to act like Vucevic is in a wheelchair, for a team like NOP with no center, I think he looks good for 2 years while they hunt for the long term answer.

I really don't like Wiggins for the length of his contract and I don't know how he'll play on a team without 2-3 all NBA players in the lineup. That said I'd do this getting off of Lavine and Vucevic completes the off season reboot without giving up anything else or taking back too much. Capela expiring, Payton traded or released and picks are fun to get. If the Bulls end up with

Giddey Dosunmu Terry
White Duarte Ball
Capela Smith Sanogo
Williams Craig
Wiggins Phillips Buzelis

not ideal, would rather have a PF than Wiggins, could just as soon move Terry and have Javonte Green on the roster

I actually kinda like the idea of Vuc on the Warriors (assuming we can't swing a trade for Lauri) to be honest. I don't think he's a bad player, but he's certainly a limited one. I don't think sticking him next to a defensively-challenged PF like Zion is a recipe for success.

rambo_ortega · Post #7 » by **rambo_ortega** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:20 pm

REVISED

NW · Post #8 » by NW » Wed Jul 10, 2024 10:40 pm

rambo_ortega wrote:REVISED

Move the GS first to the Pelicans and you’re close.

Hate it as a Warriors fan, but the talent value makes sense

giberish · Post #9 » by **giberish** » Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:25 pm

NW wrote:
rambo_ortega wrote:REVISED

Move the GS first to the Pelicans and you’re close.

Hate it as a Warriors fan, but the talent value makes sense

I think at a minimum Chicago would also have to add the Portland 1st as well (NO getting that and the GSW 1st). Given that it's probably not a real 1st I don't think this ends up with enough value for NO.

This also ends up with GS back to being crazy expensive next year for a team that really isn't that good. Of course I'm low on Ingram in general and also feel that he's a bad fit for GS as he doesn't know how to move well enough without the ball to be useful in the Warriors motion offense.

cpower · Post #10 » by **cpower** » Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:04 am

We are not interested in paying Ingram...talk to him and if he wants to get 25m then thats fine but there is no max contract for him

Threezus · Post #11 » by **Threezus** » Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:51 am

No thanks for Atlanta we are actually trying to improve defense not make it worse lol. Also where is our 2nd best player in the starting lineup in jalen Johnson. Although if im being honest i would trade Trae before i would JJ at this point. He is going to be the best player on the team within 2 to 3 years i believe.

Lineup should be

PG - Trae / Bufkin
SG - Risacher / Daniels
SF - Hunter / Risacher / Jalen johnson
PF - Jalen Johnson / Nance
C - Onyeka / Capela

That defense and length is much more needed around trae than more offense and making the defense even worse than it was last year in the starting lineup. Im also sure as heck not giving up our 6th man of the year candidate and best on off player on the team in Bogi. He is the 1 guy on the team that has more positive numbers playing with others than anyone on the team.