Kessler to the Lakers, Redo the Trade Framework

[nzahir]

So there seem to be sme rumors again that Utah could be looking to move Kessler

Likely doesn't make sense for the Lakers use a lot of assets for a backup 5 who will play limited min next to another big, but this is a unique situation due to the 2027 1st owed to Utah with some protections

LAL In: Kessler
LAL Out: JHS, Hayes, Removing protections on the 2027 1st, 2026 swap, better of 2025 2nd between Lakers or Clippers

Utah In: JHS, Hayes, Removing protections on the 2027 1st, 2026 swap, better of 2025 2nd between Lakers or Clippers
Utah Out: Kessler

Why for LA: They get a C who will be one of the best backup C's in the league. He seems like he may have some passing and maybe even future shooting potential

Why for Utah:
They get a guard who may be nothing special for them or can be a potential rotation guy
But the risk reward play here is removing the protections on 2027, so if the Lakers are in a bad place in a few years this may really hurt them
Also getting a 2026 swap. For all we know Lebron is done after this upcoming season or moves on from LAL if they don't make any changes. Likely not going to pan out, but if the Lakers fall apart soon and Utah tries to put pieces around Lauri, this is an upside move for them

Potential changes to trade framework:
Remove JHS from trade but make the 2026 swap a 2028 swap
Remove JHS, keep the 2026 swap and add a 2028 swap
Keep JHS in the trade, but swap 2026 to a 2028 swap with top 4 protections

[JRoy]

Looks like a bunch of nothing, but I like Kessler maybe more than most.

[zimpy27]

Looks like a bunch of nothing, but I dislike the Lakers more than most.

FTFY



I think the value is close but don't see Lakers making this upgrade when they could get Val cheaper.

[JRoy]

Looks like a bunch of nothing, but I dislike the Lakers more than most.

FTFY



I think the value is close but don't see Lakers making this upgrade when they could get Val cheaper.

Agreed on both counts.

[Godaddycurse]

2026 swap is kinda silly/pointless

[WargamesX]

He’s not worth that…

[jazzfan1971]

He’s not worth that…

You're right. But because he's worth more.

[nzahir]

He’s not worth that…

Hes not worth what?

JHS is too raw for us now. He does have some decent physical tools though, but we got a shorter timeframe than a rebuilding team

Unprotecting that pick is a risk, but thats the point. Gota give up something to get something

The 2028 swap is a huge risk though, that may be overdoing it

While the 2026 swap is likely underdoing it

[nzahir]

He’s not worth that…

You're right. But because he's worth more.

What do you think hes worth (from us and in general)?

[WargamesX]

He’s not worth that…

Hes not worth what?

JHS is too raw for us now. He does have some decent physical tools though, but we got a shorter timeframe than a rebuilding team

Unprotecting that pick is a risk, but thats the point. Gota give up something to get something

The 2028 swap is a huge risk though, that may be overdoing it

While the 2026 swap is likely underdoing it

You said it yourself all those unprotected picks and players with upside that Ainge will take the time to develop so he can trade them for some other over pay package later.

Kessler might be worth some of those assets but not all of them. Especially if you combine 2027/2028 Laker pick protection/swaps. That alone is probably worth more than Kessler, because the Lakers are 100% in rebuild mode by then.

It’s just my opinion but this deal feeds into the typical Ainge overpay trade he is always seeking. I am pretty sure Ainge would accept it as offered, but that isn’t a good thing for the Lakers.

[Mrakar]

If that is the price im pretty sure Pelicans(who are more in the need of a decent center) would outbid it easily.

Something around Missi and 1st rounder from Pels has to be more attractive to the Jazz.

Lakers are again trying to make something out of a player that is far worse then they are trying to present him.
JHS is not worth a lot right now.
Remember when they tried to use Horton-Tucker as some kind of future superstar in a trade? And then they did the same with Reaves (who is actually solid player, just not as good as they are trying to present him)...

[Mavrelous]

I have this as a slight overpay but worth it for both teams.

[jazzfan1971]

I don't think I trade him actually. In 6 months or so he will be starting for the Jazz. PLaying 28mpg and probably be the 15th best center in the league. Give or take.

So, I think it would be foolish to trade him right now. Especially to a team looking at him as a nice backup 5. The value just isn't there and i don't think it will be for now. This situation requires a bit of patience on the part of the Jazz.

[nzahir]

He’s not worth that…

Hes not worth what?

JHS is too raw for us now. He does have some decent physical tools though, but we got a shorter timeframe than a rebuilding team

Unprotecting that pick is a risk, but thats the point. Gota give up something to get something

The 2028 swap is a huge risk though, that may be overdoing it

While the 2026 swap is likely underdoing it

You said it yourself all those unprotected picks and players with upside that Ainge will take the time to develop so he can trade them for some other over pay package later.

Kessler might be worth some of those assets but not all of them. Especially if you combine 2027/2028 Laker pick protection/swaps. That alone is probably worth more than Kessler, because the Lakers are 100% in rebuild mode by then.

It’s just my opinion but this deal feeds into the typical Ainge overpay trade he is always seeking. I am pretty sure Ainge would accept it as offered, but that isn’t a good thing for the Lakers.

Well yes, you cant get a solid player on a cheap contract for nothing lol

[nzahir]

I have this as a slight overpay but worth it for both teams.

Overpay if we are giving up the 26 swap or the 28 swap?

[nzahir]

If that is the price im pretty sure Pelicans(who are more in the need of a decent center) would outbid it easily.

Something around Missi and 1st rounder from Pels has to be more attractive to the Jazz.

Lakers are again trying to make something out of a player that is far worse then they are trying to present him.
JHS is not worth a lot right now.
Remember when they tried to use Horton-Tucker as some kind of future superstar in a trade? And then they did the same with Reaves (who is actually solid player, just not as good as they are trying to present him)...

Possibly, but the Jazz also just drafted a C with the 32nd pick. Kyle Filipowski

If the Pels are healthy, that picks should be in the high teens to mid 20s

So thats a fair package, but I truly think a swap especially in 28, gives you more upside

[nzahir]

I don't think I trade him actually. In 6 months or so he will be starting for the Jazz. PLaying 28mpg and probably be the 15th best center in the league. Give or take.

So, I think it would be foolish to trade him right now. Especially to a team looking at him as a nice backup 5. The value just isn't there and i don't think it will be for now. This situation requires a bit of patience on the part of the Jazz.

Fair enough, Danny likes to play it safe for a while but then make a big swing

I think this kind of deal gives you guys a good risk reward, especially if the 28 swap is involved

A lot of upside with an older AD and Lebron is gone

If its JHS, unprotecting 27, and the 28 swap though, then the 28 swap needs some light protections (like top 4) since I feel like that is quite a lot to give up and easily an overpay

Or can go unprotect the 27 1st, 28 swap (top 1 protected/no protections), Hayes, and Maxwell Lewis

Gafford, who is currently better than Kessler, but on a bigger deal and older went for the 29th pick (OKCs pick)

[Mavrelous]

I have this as a slight overpay but worth it for both teams.

Overpay if we are giving up the 26 swap or the 28 swap?

26 swap.
Unprotecting 27, 2nd and JHS is enough value IMO

[tester551]

If that is the price im pretty sure Pelicans(who are more in the need of a decent center) would outbid it easily.

Something around Missi and 1st rounder from Pels has to be more attractive to the Jazz.

Agreed.
Jazz would have much better offers than this Laker one

[babyjax13]

So, a swap we won't exercise, a prospect that will be behind 8 guards, at least 3 of which will primarily be at point guard, and removal of minimal protections on a pick. Some of this certainly has value, but it's just aggregating one thing we might want with a bunch of stuff that really doesn't have value to us and therefor is wasted for LA, because we aren't going to want to move assets for it.