Crazy Idea, shoot from 28 feet

[tamaraw08]

More than 30 years ago, players get benched for taking a few shots from 24 feet, then came snipers like Ellis, Allen and Miller.
Then came the Splash brothers who took about 19 3's per game plus Dray and his 3.2.
Then the so called Stretch 4's and 5's.
Slow Centers who can't switch and defend in the perimeter had trouble staying on the court and most players have gotten used to defending from 23 feet,
If they are on a heater, Steph, Bron and Lillard would occasionally launch from 28 feet for like 1-2 times every 4-5 games or so.
My question is why don't shooters practice shooting like 400 shots per day from beyond 28 feet? I am not referring to oldies to waste their energy doing it but those guys from the bench.
If your team is down 20 pts late in the 3rd quarter, a couple of 3's would put your team to a manageable deficit going to the 4th.
It's not just generating points from there but also it will pull out defenders, opening up driving lanes or establish post up games for higher % shots.

[bisme37]

Porzingis shoots a lot of 3's from super deep range like that.

It was one of the first things that jumped out when he became a Celtic. One of the reasons the C's have such great spacing. It's one thing to have your 7'3" center shooting 3's, but the way he sets up and shoots from several feet behind the line really opens things up.

I know KAT likes to say he's the best 3 pt shooting big of all time, and maybe he is, but I think KP has a case as best floor spacing big of all time. Major weapon.

[art_tatum]

Currys been shooting 2 of those every game since 2013

[tamaraw08]

Porzingis shoots a lot of 3's from super deep range like that.

It was one of the first things that jumped out when he became a Celtic. One of the reasons the C's have such great spacing. It's one thing to have your 7'3" center shooting 3's, but the way he sets up and shoots from several feet behind the line really opens things up.

I know KAT likes to say he's the best 3 pt shooting big of all time, and maybe he is, but I think KP has a case as best floor spacing big of all time. Major weapon.

Imagine Dame, Prince and Middleton start taking and making 28ft 3's.
They pull out their defenders to as far as 27 feet creating that much space allow Giannis to take those long strides and get easy layups.
That open lane also allows Lopez to pin his defender down low within 4-6 feet, catch that entry pass and get high % hook shots.
Same with the Lakers for Lebron and AD, or Kawhi and Zubac or Edwards and Gobert, Maxie and Embiid respectively etc.

[Lockdown504090]

Nearly every team has a four point line in their practice facility for the exact logic you guys are referring to. They belive 35 percent from 28 feet and the spacing is more valuable overall than 40 percent right on the line .

[boomershadow]

Morey had the Rockets doing this a bit. Ryan Amderson in particular.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Caitlin Clark is putting your theory into practice, her average three point shot distance is 28 ft, for comparisons sake Curry's is 25 ft.

In the wnba at least Clark is starting to pose some serious problems now that the 3 is falling because you literally have to defend her 30 ft from the rim.

[Myth]

OP really hasn’t been paying attention. Lillard has done much more than 1-2 28 foot shots every 4-5 games. He was especially launching them in Portland. In 2022-23, in 58 games he shot 117 shots beyond 30 feet, which is barely over 2 shots per game. And that is before we count the 465 3s he took between 25-29 feet.

[tamaraw08]

Caitlin Clark is putting your theory into practice, her average three point shot distance is 28 ft, for comparisons sake Curry's is 25 ft.

In the wnba at least Clark is starting to pose some serious problems now that the 3 is falling because you literally have to defend her 30 ft from the rim.

Curry would sometimes launch from 28 feet but very few times imo. I’m thinking too that it doesn’t have to be your main player too. It can be a specialist from the bench who will practice hard almost every day

[bledredwine]

Caitlin Clark is putting your theory into practice, her average three point shot distance is 28 ft, for comparisons sake Curry's is 25 ft.

In the wnba at least Clark is starting to pose some serious problems now that the 3 is falling because you literally have to defend her 30 ft from the rim.

She's amazing, so much fun to watch.

[LaLover11]

Caitlin Clark is putting your theory into practice, her average three point shot distance is 28 ft, for comparisons sake Curry's is 25 ft.

In the wnba at least Clark is starting to pose some serious problems now that the 3 is falling because you literally have to defend her 30 ft from the rim.

She's amazing, so much fun to watch.

Yeah crazy how the NBA didn't have to guard MJ from 30ft. LeBron is great at these 28ft shots like previous posters have mentioned!

Love how the game just keeps getting better, isn't that awesome!

Strike issued for unrelenting tsunami of trolling, derailing and general nonsense in this and many other posts. -b

[bledredwine]

Caitlin Clark is putting your theory into practice, her average three point shot distance is 28 ft, for comparisons sake Curry's is 25 ft.

In the wnba at least Clark is starting to pose some serious problems now that the 3 is falling because you literally have to defend her 30 ft from the rim.

She's amazing, so much fun to watch.

Yeah crazy how the NBA didn't have to guard MJ from 30ft. LeBron is great at these 28ft shots like previous posters have mentioned!

Love how the game just keeps getting better, isn't that awesome!

Sorry to have upset you with all of the overwhelming Jordan stats.

That's the worst derail I've seen in a long time

[og15]

The Rockets did this with Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon already. Some players with the range also still do it to draw out the defense futher.

Clark has a long average 3PT distance, though her never taking any corner shots compared to a guy like Curry who around 10% of his are from the corner is a slight factor too.

[Fencer reregistered]

Porzingis shoots a lot of 3's from super deep range like that.

It was one of the first things that jumped out when he became a Celtic. One of the reasons the C's have such great spacing. It's one thing to have your 7'3" center shooting 3's, but the way he sets up and shoots from several feet behind the line really opens things up.

I know KAT likes to say he's the best 3 pt shooting big of all time, and maybe he is, but I think KP has a case as best floor spacing big of all time. Major weapon.

At the other end of the Celtics' height spectrum, Pritchard also has preferred spots from well beyond the arc.

(Separately, plays like the one where he clearly was the first option on that heave ending H1 of Game 5 of the Finals suggest some effort practicing those extreme shots.)

[mowcrowbar]

You need to award talent, so I’m all for it. Centres were unable to shoot during the earlier eras, which is still unfathomable to me.

[Texas Chuck]

I know KAT likes to say he's the best 3 pt shooting big of all time, and maybe he is, but I think KP has a case as best floor spacing big of all time. Major weapon.

If we are just talking spacing, its almost certainly neither of these guys, right? What makes them so much more valuable are the other things they do. KAT can do a ton offensively. KP can do a lot of things offensively as well, plus offer the plus rim protection.

But guys like Bonner, Novak, Bertans offer you more from a pure spacing element. Lethal shooters, crazy fast releases, ability to stretch the floor out from deeper just like KP.

But yeah shame KP just can't reliably stay healthy. A major what could have been. His skill set is just tailor made to be a modern big. I'm still a little frustrated Dallas gave up on him so easily. Would be nice to have the rim protecting/running of their current centers with the spacing Maxi is supposed to supply.

Great addition by the Celtics though they are so good they didn't even really need him to win the title.

[jayu70]

[bisme37]

I know KAT likes to say he's the best 3 pt shooting big of all time, and maybe he is, but I think KP has a case as best floor spacing big of all time. Major weapon.

If we are just talking spacing, its almost certainly neither of these guys, right? What makes them so much more valuable are the other things they do. KAT can do a ton offensively. KP can do a lot of things offensively as well, plus offer the plus rim protection.

But guys like Bonner, Novak, Bertans offer you more from a pure spacing element. Lethal shooters, crazy fast releases, ability to stretch the floor out from deeper just like KP.

But yeah shame KP just can't reliably stay healthy. A major what could have been. His skill set is just tailor made to be a modern big. I'm still a little frustrated Dallas gave up on him so easily. Would be nice to have the rim protecting/running of their current centers with the spacing Maxi is supposed to supply.

Great addition by the Celtics though they are so good they didn't even really need him to win the title.

I stand behind my take. I'm honestly struggling to make a case for guys like Bonner or Bertans as best floor spacing big. I'll take your word that they were/are able to shoot from KP-like distance, but I really don't remember them doing that with any regularity.

And you're pointing to the speed of a shooter's release. But at KP's height and with his ability to use his handle to create space, no one can really do anything about his shot even if his release is slow as molasses (which it isn't). So many possessions that ended up with a made 3 or foul from the defender. And so much space for everyone else to operate.

[YogurtProducer]

I know KAT likes to say he's the best 3 pt shooting big of all time, and maybe he is, but I think KP has a case as best floor spacing big of all time. Major weapon.

If we are just talking spacing, its almost certainly neither of these guys, right? What makes them so much more valuable are the other things they do. KAT can do a ton offensively. KP can do a lot of things offensively as well, plus offer the plus rim protection.

But guys like Bonner, Novak, Bertans offer you more from a pure spacing element. Lethal shooters, crazy fast releases, ability to stretch the floor out from deeper just like KP.

But yeah shame KP just can't reliably stay healthy. A major what could have been. His skill set is just tailor made to be a modern big. I'm still a little frustrated Dallas gave up on him so easily. Would be nice to have the rim protecting/running of their current centers with the spacing Maxi is supposed to supply.

Great addition by the Celtics though they are so good they didn't even really need him to win the title.

I stand behind my take. I'm honestly struggling to make a case for guys like Bonner or Bertans as best floor spacing big. I'll take your word that they were/are able to shoot from KP-like distance, but I really don't remember them doing that with any regularity.

And you're pointing to the speed of a shooter's release. But at KP's height and with his ability to use his handle to create space, no one can really do anything about his shot even if his release is slow as molasses (which it isn't). So many possessions that ended up with a made 3 or foul from the defender. And so much space for everyone else to operate.

Washington Bertans was pulling like crazy from all over.

The best spacing C of all time is certainly not KAT or KP. Odds are it’s a bench player who isn’t good enough defensively to actually stay on the floor to provide that spacing, however.

That being said - Bertans didn’t play C anyways, and Bonner didn’t shoot enough due to his era to really be considered

[MrPainfulTruth]

Its interesting that none of this works in FIBA though. The key is not the shooter, but the defense that is allowed by the officials.These guys are talented enough that they can hit consistently from half court, if unguarded. If the rule interpretation is leaning towards the shooter as heavily as it does in the NBA, the risk of giving a guy 3 free throws is too high to come anywhere close to actual basketball defense and contest.

Outside of Stephs outbreak in the finals - and every shot was still closely contested! - who made their 3pt shots consistently in the olympics?