Cade Cunningham should be an all star

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He’s playing as one of the best guards in the league he deserves to make it this year

[CptCrunch]

Cade Cunningham should not be a all star and probably never will make the all-stars.

He has finally put up a 3 BPM season which is barely good starter level. Career high in turnovers and usage. True shooting is up 0.7% over last year due to scorching hot start. Will eventually settle back down to low 1.x or low 2.x range. But I guess we should be happy about progress right

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[chilluminati]

I'm here for it baby. I'd love to see it.

Realistically he probably won't, but without arguing about efficiency he's raising the floor on our team finally. We needed to surround him with shooters. Because you know, we shoot nowadays in the NBA and we finally got a GM and coach that gives a crap. Cade has a lot of room to improve, but the results are showing in more wins than usual with him at the helm. He's always been the head of the snake, but the rest of that snake was practically useless before.

[zeebneeb]

Cade Cunningham should not be a all star and probably never will make the all-stars.

He has finally put up a 3 BPM season which is barely good starter level. Career high in turnovers and usage. True shooting is up 0.7% over last year due to scorching hot start. Will eventually settle back down to low 1.x or low 2.x range. But I guess we should be happy about progress right

-1.6 to -0.7 to 0.3 to ???

Better hope he falls off. He's buzzing around the league right now.

probably.

[JujitsuFlip]

Cade Cunningham should not be a all star and probably never will make the all-stars.

He has finally put up a 3 BPM season which is barely good starter level. Career high in turnovers and usage. True shooting is up 0.7% over last year due to scorching hot start. Will eventually settle back down to low 1.x or low 2.x range. But I guess we should be happy about progress right

-1.6 to -0.7 to 0.3 to ???

Media isn't looking at that.

Most fans aren't looking at that.

Players probably aren't looking at that.

Head coaches aren't looking at that.

Adam Silver 1000% is not looking at that.

23.9 PPG 9.4 APG 7.3 RPG... He's an All-Star

[PhilBlackson]

If the Pistons can take BKN's spot as the 8th seed I'd give him a chance.

[SweaterBae]

Cade Cunningham should not be a all star and probably never will make the all-stars.

He has finally put up a 3 BPM season which is barely good starter level. Career high in turnovers and usage. True shooting is up 0.7% over last year due to scorching hot start. Will eventually settle back down to low 1.x or low 2.x range. But I guess we should be happy about progress right

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It's not the BPM Game.

[MrBigShot]

Team is much improved from last year and he's taken a step forward.

Still has to cut down on the turnovers, and get to the line more to increase his efficiency. But I think he has a decent shot at being named an all star. Lots of competition in the east. To name a few: Lamelo, Dame, Brunson, Herro, Garland, Derrick White, Jaylen Brown, Mitchell

[Tor_Raps]

Recency bias is so hilarious these days. A couple more good games and ppl gonna be saying hes the league MVP lol

[bkkrh]

Cade Cunningham should not be a all star and probably never will make the all-stars.

He has finally put up a 3 BPM season which is barely good starter level. Career high in turnovers and usage. True shooting is up 0.7% over last year due to scorching hot start. Will eventually settle back down to low 1.x or low 2.x range. But I guess we should be happy about progress right

-1.6 to -0.7 to 0.3 to ???

Media isn't looking at that.

Most fans aren't looking at that.

Players probably aren't looking at that.

Head coaches aren't looking at that.

Adam Silver 1000% is not looking at that.

23.9 PPG 9.4 APG 7.3 RPG... He's an All-Star

He is also playing for a team that currently has a 10-15 record. Not saying he has no chance, but he is in the same boat as Lamelo, putting up numbers on losing teams, so he might make it, but he has multiple players ahead on his position that are playing on winning teams.

- Brunson
- Garland and/or Mitchell
- Jrue or Derrick White have a decent chance
- The Bucks are back on track and Dame is playing better than last season, when he was an All Star
- The Heat are back on track and Herro is making a solid case to become an All Star
- If the Hawks keep a winning record and Trae Young improves his shooting average he'll make it over Cunningham

So that's currently 8 potential candidates on winning teams for the Guard spots. Then you have Maxey on Philly if they catch up by then, Haliburton and Indiana might still get it together and then we come to players like Cunningham, Lamelo, Cam Thomas and RJ Barrett, who are putting up good numbers on losing teams. Cunningham and Lamelo would be the most likely ones from that group, but it is the most competitive position in today's game. Just as a reminder, Bradley Beal didn't make the All Star team when he averaged 30 points, 6 assists and 4 rebounds on a losing team.

[JujitsuFlip]

Cade Cunningham should not be a all star and probably never will make the all-stars.

He has finally put up a 3 BPM season which is barely good starter level. Career high in turnovers and usage. True shooting is up 0.7% over last year due to scorching hot start. Will eventually settle back down to low 1.x or low 2.x range. But I guess we should be happy about progress right

-1.6 to -0.7 to 0.3 to ???

Media isn't looking at that.

Most fans aren't looking at that.

Players probably aren't looking at that.

Head coaches aren't looking at that.

Adam Silver 1000% is not looking at that.

23.9 PPG 9.4 APG 7.3 RPG... He's an All-Star

He is also playing for a team that currently has a 10-15 record. Not saying he has no chance, but he is in the same boat as Lamelo, putting up numbers on losing teams, so he might make it, but he has multiple players ahead on his position that are playing on winning teams.

- Brunson
- Garland and/or Mitchell
- Jrue or Derrick White have a decent chance
- The Bucks are back on track and Dame is playing better than last season, when he was an All Star
- The Heat are back on track and Herro is making a solid case to become an All Star
- If the Hawks keep a winning record and Trae Young improves his shooting average he'll make it over Cunningham

So that's currently 8 potential candidates on winning teams for the Guard spots. Then you have Maxey on Philly if they catch up by then, Haliburton and Indiana might still get it together and then we come to players like Cunningham, Lamelo, Cam Thomas and RJ Barrett, who are putting up good numbers on losing teams. Cunningham and Lamelo would be the most likely ones from that group, but it is the most competitive position in today's game. Just as a reminder, Bradley Beal didn't make the All Star team when he averaged 30 points, 6 assists and 4 rebounds on a losing team.

I'll start by saying Kyrie made the ASG when the Cavs were 10-33.

Brunson probably, one of Garland/Mitchell.

I don't think either Jrue or White have a chance.

Dame has a shot.

Be tough for Herro, unless he's gonna be their only All-Star.

Without a doubt Trae is an All-Star.

It'll be tough for Cade but i wouldn't rule it out.

[bkkrh]

Media isn't looking at that.

Most fans aren't looking at that.

Players probably aren't looking at that.

Head coaches aren't looking at that.

Adam Silver 1000% is not looking at that.

23.9 PPG 9.4 APG 7.3 RPG... He's an All-Star

He is also playing for a team that currently has a 10-15 record. Not saying he has no chance, but he is in the same boat as Lamelo, putting up numbers on losing teams, so he might make it, but he has multiple players ahead on his position that are playing on winning teams.

- Brunson
- Garland and/or Mitchell
- Jrue or Derrick White have a decent chance
- The Bucks are back on track and Dame is playing better than last season, when he was an All Star
- The Heat are back on track and Herro is making a solid case to become an All Star
- If the Hawks keep a winning record and Trae Young improves his shooting average he'll make it over Cunningham

So that's currently 8 potential candidates on winning teams for the Guard spots. Then you have Maxey on Philly if they catch up by then, Haliburton and Indiana might still get it together and then we come to players like Cunningham, Lamelo, Cam Thomas and RJ Barrett, who are putting up good numbers on losing teams. Cunningham and Lamelo would be the most likely ones from that group, but it is the most competitive position in today's game. Just as a reminder, Bradley Beal didn't make the All Star team when he averaged 30 points, 6 assists and 4 rebounds on a losing team.

I'll start by saying Kyrie made the ASG when the Cavs were 10-33.

Brunson probably, one of Garland/Mitchell.

I don't think either Jrue or White have a chance.

Dame has a shot.

Be tough for Herro, unless he's gonna be their only All-Star.

Without a doubt Trae is an All-Star.

It'll be tough for Cade but i wouldn't rule it out.

Yeah but that was 12-13, the league wasn't a Point Guard league yet. The starting 5 in the East didn't even have one. Jrue was the other PG in the East and Philly also had a losing record. There weren't really any other options, Rondo got nominated but had his ACL injury a few days before, Rose was injured all season, only other valid option would have been fat Deron Williams, who already started to look on the decline in Brooklyn at this point.

As said, I also don't rule it out, just see a lot of players that will have a better chance than him. Pretty much agree with what you wrote.

The thing is just and I feel that is what a lot of people often don't seem to get, a player can have an All-Star worthy season and still don't make it, just because enough other players have similar, or even better seasons. Joker, Luka and SGA all had an MVP worthy season last year and would have won MVP with those numbers in a lot of previous seasons.

On the other side you will have years where players make All Star teams that would have never made it any other year, like BJ Armstrong, Kyle Korver, Jamaal Magloire and so on.

[Mr Peanut]

Cade Cunningham should not be a all star and probably never will make the all-stars.

He has finally put up a 3 BPM season which is barely good starter level. Career high in turnovers and usage. True shooting is up 0.7% over last year due to scorching hot start. Will eventually settle back down to low 1.x or low 2.x range. But I guess we should be happy about progress right

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You were quite vocal in your disdain for Cade last season, including the laughable "10 year track record of predicting draft busts" statement. That has only become more comedic now.

Cade is averaging 23.9ppg, 9.4apg, 7.3rpg on 46/39/79 this season. He's leading a team that won 14 games last year into play-in contention this season (granted, it's the East). He routinely looks like the best player on the floor most nights which includes those where he matches up with other guys who are considered probable All-Stars. He is 3rd in triple doubles this year after only Jokic and LeBron.

Instead of looking at all the other data you solely base your evaluation off things like BPM and GmSc as if they are the only metrics that exist. If you do want to base your decision making on just BPM then here's a list of players that Cade has a better BPM than this season - Evan Mobley, Darius Garland, Kevin Durant, Donovan Mitchell, Tyrese Maxey, Bam Adebayo, De'Aaron Fox, Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Booker, Lauri Markannen.

Maybe it's time to admit your talent evaluation just isn't that good.

[CptCrunch]

This thread shows exactly why Cade should not be an all-star. One of the worst, most overrated players ever drafted into the league with an supporters pushing an narrative since year one, discounting all failures, parroting even the most minor non-accomplishments.

[God Squad]

This thread shows exactly why Cade should not be an all-star. One of the worst, most overrated players ever drafted into the league with an supporters pushing an narrative since year one, discounting all failures, parroting even the most minor non-accomplishments.

I'm not sure Cades is an all-star simply because I'd need to see the other guards available.

But it sounds like you have a grudge against Cade? I get it, you don't think he's an All-Star. But this seems deeper than that.

[Exp0sed]

he's close but there's a couple of guards ahead of him. he'll probably get in this year as a sub.

[srhcan]

He’s playing as one of the best guards in the league he deserves to make it this year

Cade is awesome. He is among the Tier 1 players from his draft class along with Barnes, Sengun and Mobley.

[brackdan70]

He is filling up the box score for sure, but his positive impact is not quite as high as you might think. He is ranked 52nd in LEBRON and 27th in EPM estimated wins.
Borderline All Star maybe. But not making it would t be a snub. Making it would be a surprise.
In epm wins I count 4 east guards ahead of him…and many more in LEBRON.

[cupcakesnake]

I don't want to crap on Cade's best season but there are some reasons to have him on the all-star cusp rather than "should be an all-star".

The counting stats are gaudy. 24ppg and 9apg screams no-brainer all-star. But he's using a huge number of possessions to get those numbers, and isn't doing so with any great efficiency.
- 9.4 assists is cool but then there's that whopping 4.7 turnovers.
- 23.9 ppg sounds elite but it's on 19.7 shots, he's at negative efficiency (-2.2 rTS%) and having an objectively horrible time finishing inside.

I still have Cade as a solid all-star possibility. Amongst guards, I have White, Mitchell, and Brunson as locks. After that it's a tough group with Lillard and Garland. Cade is the next one one my list, ahead of Trae (and Lamelo if he's healthy). The wildcard spot is also competitive with guys like Jimmy Butler, Wagner if healthy, some extra Knicks and Cavs.

TLDR: I think Cade has a very legit shot at nabbing a deserved all-star spot, but I don't think his numbers are as they look on the surface.