Walking in Micic, with my feet 10 feet off of Beale

[MasterIchiro]

Hornets trade Vasa Micic + 2025 Pelicans 2nd (32) + Hornets 2025 2nd (35).

Grizz trade Luke Kennard + 2025 1st top-20 protected (27).

Why for Hornets? Consolidate 2nd round picks into 1st round asset.

Why for Grizz? Micic as PG2 has played in huge games as it seems Grizz are destined for deep advancement. Micic would share backcourt with Smart off the bench, upgrading playmaking. Micic is a natural point guard who fills the void left since Tyus Jones. The offense functioned when Ja was resting on the bench or unavailable.

[Texas Chuck]

I'd be stunned if Memphis gave any first to turn Kennard into a less playable Micic.

[JMAC3]

Scottie Pippen Jr is just better than Micic at this point, I don't think Micic would see the floor unless 2 out of Smart, Pippen and Ja are hurt.

[MasterIchiro]

Scottie Pippen Jr is just better than Micic at this point, I don't think Micic would see the floor unless 2 out of Smart, Pippen and Ja are hurt.

Vet experience often weighs greater the deeper a team advances. Micic is steady.

But yes, I overlooked Pippen Jr. as a PG option. I don't feel Memphis is losing much long term by simply swapping 27 for 32 + 35.

Kennard is on an expiring contract.

If not the Grizz, I would like to see the Hornets find a team what would take either Micic or Martin with 32 & 35 and give up a late 1st. Hornets should be looking to trade back into the 1st round.

[gswhoops]

Yeah I don't see this at all for Memphis. If they're willing to swap a 1st for 2nds to get a better backup PG, they can do better than Micic.

[JMAC3]

Scottie Pippen Jr is just better than Micic at this point, I don't think Micic would see the floor unless 2 out of Smart, Pippen and Ja are hurt.

Vet experience often weighs greater the deeper a team advances. Micic is steady.

But yes, I overlooked Pippen Jr. as a PG option. I don't feel Memphis is losing much long term by simply swapping 27 for 32 + 35.

Kennard is on an expiring contract.

If not the Grizz, I would like to see the Hornets find a team what would take either Micic or Martin with 32 & 35 and give up a late 1st. Hornets should be looking to trade back into the 1st round.

You are also talking about 27 like it would be locked in, same as 32 and 35.

If that pick ends up 23rd and the Hornets seconds they own end up 37 and 38 that makes a bad trade even worse.

[MasterIchiro]

Yeah I don't see this at all for Memphis. If they're willing to swap a 1st for 2nds to get a better backup PG, they can do better than Micic.

Well if you value a hedge on your playoff playmaking at one 2nd round pick (Micic), this is 3 second round picks for pick 27. 32 + 35 covers the value of 27 imo. Micic is just a hedge.

Who is the superior playmaker on the market where the trade partner is bundling 2 very high second round picks to cover the value of 27?

That part of the trade can't be omitted.

[MasterIchiro]

Scottie Pippen Jr is just better than Micic at this point, I don't think Micic would see the floor unless 2 out of Smart, Pippen and Ja are hurt.

Vet experience often weighs greater the deeper a team advances. Micic is steady.

But yes, I overlooked Pippen Jr. as a PG option. I don't feel Memphis is losing much long term by simply swapping 27 for 32 + 35.

Kennard is on an expiring contract.

If not the Grizz, I would like to see the Hornets find a team what would take either Micic or Martin with 32 & 35 and give up a late 1st. Hornets should be looking to trade back into the 1st round.

You are also talking about 27 like it would be locked in, same as 32 and 35.

If that pick ends up 23rd and the Hornets seconds they own end up 37 and 38 that makes a bad trade even worse.

I don't think it's ever bad to risk low assets to hedge playoff playmaking. I know we suffered Micic until recently. He looks freaking dynamite now as someone who can run offense and implement coaching schemes on that end instantly and effortlessly. Smart being a tough defender really helps. Plus Grizz are built to excel with 3 guard lineups given the versatility of their bigs.

Maybe substitute Nick Richards here? Adding a layer of rim protection would be great for their defense. They can even run Clarke or JJJ next to Nick Richards.

[gswhoops]

Yeah I don't see this at all for Memphis. If they're willing to swap a 1st for 2nds to get a better backup PG, they can do better than Micic.

Well if you value a hedge on your playoff playmaking at one 2nd round pick (Micic), this is 3 second round picks for pick 27. 32 + 35 covers the value of 27 imo. Micic is just a hedge.

Who is the superior playmaker on the market where the trade partner is bundling 2 very high second round picks to cover the value of 27?

That part of the trade can't be omitted.

You're trying to have your cake and eat it too here with the picks. If you think that 2 high second-round picks is equivalent to a first, just take out the picks and swap Vasa for Kennard straight up. But obviously you don't, because no one here does. You also keep omitting that Memphis is giving up Kennard, who is straight up a more useful player than Vasa in his own right.

This deal has Memphis giving up the most useful player (Kennard) and the best pick (the 1st). I don't see them agreeing to that.

To answer your last question, I'm sure say Brooklyn would happily swap Schroeder and some 2nds for Kennard and a 1st, and Schroeder is undoubtedly a better player than Micic right now.

[MasterIchiro]

Yeah I don't see this at all for Memphis. If they're willing to swap a 1st for 2nds to get a better backup PG, they can do better than Micic.

Well if you value a hedge on your playoff playmaking at one 2nd round pick (Micic), this is 3 second round picks for pick 27. 32 + 35 covers the value of 27 imo. Micic is just a hedge.

Who is the superior playmaker on the market where the trade partner is bundling 2 very high second round picks to cover the value of 27?

That part of the trade can't be omitted.

You're trying to have your cake and eat it too here with the picks. If you think that 2 high second-round picks is equivalent to a first, just take out the picks and swap Vasa for Kennard straight up. But obviously you don't, because no one here does. You also keep omitting that Memphis is giving up Kennard, who is straight up a more useful player than Vasa in his own right.

This deal has Memphis giving up the most useful player (Kennard) and the best pick (the 1st). I don't see them agreeing to that.

To answer your last question, I'm sure say Brooklyn would happily swap Schroeder and some 2nds for Kennard and a 1st, and Schroeder is undoubtedly a better player than Micic right now.

Nets can get a prospect for Shröder. Which one is Grizz coughing up here?

[psman2]

Kennard is more valuable to us and the nba as a whole than Micic. His specialized skill is a tool that in spots can have a real impact. Pippen is doing great as the backup pg regardless.

Memphis next year is likely in a roster crunch again, I don't think they would want to turn our 1st into 2nds regardless. Kennard and LaRavia might be gone leaving us with 13 roster spots already claimed. We already have a 1st and a 2nd in this draft and very likely want to leave a spot open to explore using the full MLE.

Micic for a 2nd/expiring might be out there for a team that has a dead expiring and a need for a backup PG. That is not Memphis.

Jay Huff has been playing great, don't think we are in the market for a backup center anymore, so Richards would have little appeal now.

[Godaddycurse]

am i the only one who thought i was gonna see bradley beal in the OP?

[psman2]

am i the only one who thought i was gonna see bradley beal in the OP?

Beale street is a famous Memphis attraction and that line is in the famous song. But I wouldn't expect our friends from the north to get that reference.

[HornetJail]

Kennard > Micic

One 1st from an injury prone team in a stacked conference> a couple early 2nds.

This is a dream trade but not one rooted in reality

[Andre Roberstan]

Hornets trade Vasa Micic + 2025 Pelicans 2nd (32) + Hornets 2025 2nd (35).

Grizz trade Luke Kennard + 2025 1st top-20 protected (27).

Why for Hornets? Consolidate 2nd round picks into 1st round asset.

Why for Grizz? Micic as PG2 has played in huge games as it seems Grizz are destined for deep advancement. Micic would share backcourt with Smart off the bench, upgrading playmaking. Micic is a natural point guard who fills the void left since Tyus Jones. The offense functioned when Ja was resting on the bench or unavailable.

I don't think the trade works as currently constructed, but I do have to give props for an excellent thread title.