Forbes: Raps valued at $4.4B !!(47th worldwide)

right between the eyes · Post #1 » by **right between the eyes** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:28 pm

My goodness have times changed. Remembering the days where the Leafs were carrying us financially or so they said. Is it me or were we under $3B a year ago? This franchise keeps appreciating in value. Great to see!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brettknight/2024/12/12/the-worlds-50-most-valuable-sports-teams-2024/

Psubs · Post #2 » by **Psubs** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 7:32 pm

I can't believe the Patroits are still over $7 billion. They should definitely be under 7.

tecumseh18 · Post #3 » by **tecumseh18** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:00 pm

The league’s 30 franchises were worth $4.4 billion on average this year, a 15% increase over 2023

So Raps are average value. Which isn't bad for a lottery team, especially one in a market where sports radio completely ignores them most of the time - all of the time in primetime.

OTOH, Raptors have a whole country to themselves. That has to be worth something.

Kingsway_fan · Post #4 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:03 pm

Hockey nowhere to be seen ... Raptors ... Canada's most valuable sports franchise.

ForeverTFC · Post #5 » by **ForeverTFC** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:46 pm

NBA teams and placement on the list:

2. Warriors - $8.8B
5. Knicks - $7.5B
8. Lakers - $7.1B
19. Celtics - $6B
22. Clippers - $5.5B
34. Bulls - $5B
37. Rockets - $4.9B
40. Nets - $4.8B
42. Mavs - $4.7B
47. Raptors - $4.4B

10th most valuable franchise in the NBA.

ForeverTFC · Post #6 » by **ForeverTFC** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:47 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
The league’s 30 franchises were worth $4.4 billion on average this year, a 15% increase over 2023

So Raps are average value. Which isn't bad for a lottery team, especially one in a market where sports radio completely ignores them most of the time - all of the time in primetime.

OTOH, Raptors have a whole country to themselves. That has to be worth something.

Can't use average here as the top teams skew it. They're well above median, 10th most valuable franchise in the league.

brownbobcat · Post #7 » by **brownbobcat** » Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:51 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:NBA teams and placement on the list:

2. Warriors - $8.8B
5. Knicks - $7.5B
8. Lakers - $7.1B
19. Celtics - $6B
22. Clippers - $5.5B
34. Bulls - $5B
37. Rockets - $4.9B
40. Nets - $4.8B
42. Mavs - $4.7B
47. Raptors - $4.4B

10th most valuable franchise in the NBA.

Curious that GSW is still so high - you gotta imagine that it will plummet when Curry retires, it's not as if SF is a great market and they wouldn't hold much international or national interest afterwards.

mrsocko · Post #8 » by **mrsocko** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:45 am

What no cricket teams. Every stupid listing of the most popular sports has cricket 2nd.

ForeverTFC · Post #9 » by **ForeverTFC** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:44 am

brownbobcat wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:NBA teams and placement on the list:

2. Warriors - $8.8B
5. Knicks - $7.5B
8. Lakers - $7.1B
19. Celtics - $6B
22. Clippers - $5.5B
34. Bulls - $5B
37. Rockets - $4.9B
40. Nets - $4.8B
42. Mavs - $4.7B
47. Raptors - $4.4B

10th most valuable franchise in the NBA.

Curious that GSW is still so high - you gotta imagine that it will plummet when Curry retires, it's not as if SF is a great market and they wouldn't hold much international or national interest afterwards.

A lot of money in SF; tickets, sponsorship, local TV rights. That’s really what separates the top teams from the rest of the league. They’ll drop from 1, but will stay top 5.

RoteSchroder · Post #10 » by **RoteSchroder** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:53 am

congrats everyone! through our hard work and dedication, we have made the rich richer

Kingsway_fan · Post #11 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:05 am

ForeverTFC wrote:NBA teams and placement on the list:

2. Warriors - $8.8B
5. Knicks - $7.5B
8. Lakers - $7.1B
19. Celtics - $6B
22. Clippers - $5.5B
34. Bulls - $5B
37. Rockets - $4.9B
40. Nets - $4.8B
42. Mavs - $4.7B
47. Raptors - $4.4B

10th most valuable franchise in the NBA.

Spectacular.

Curious where Leafs and Jays would be on such a list....

Westside Gunn · Post #12 » by **Westside Gunn** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:29 pm

Not surprising. The NBA is global now with some players getting to soccer player salary territory.

If the NBA was still regional you would be seeing 500m valuations mostly.

WuTang_CMB · Post #13 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:48 pm

Our board’s value is a cool billion of that

Jay240 · Post #14 » by **Jay240** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 1:54 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:NBA teams and placement on the list:

2. Warriors - $8.8B
5. Knicks - $7.5B
8. Lakers - $7.1B
19. Celtics - $6B
22. Clippers - $5.5B
34. Bulls - $5B
37. Rockets - $4.9B
40. Nets - $4.8B
42. Mavs - $4.7B
47. Raptors - $4.4B

10th most valuable franchise in the NBA.

43. 76ers - $4.6B

Badonkadonk · Post #15 » by **Badonkadonk** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:38 pm

My puckhead buddies would laugh when I told them it was only a matter of time before the Raps were WAY more valuable than the Leafs. Simple economics.

Naysorn · Post #16 » by **Naysorn** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:44 pm

Badonkadonk wrote:My puckhead buddies would laugh when I told them it was only a matter of time before the Raps were WAY more valuable than the Leafs. Simple economics.

Why don't we get treated like it though?

TSN still puts CFL over us

i don't get it. what numbers are they using? are the raptors not drawing in as much viewership?

raptorforlife88 · Post #17 » by **raptorforlife88** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:29 pm

Naysorn wrote:
Badonkadonk wrote:My puckhead buddies would laugh when I told them it was only a matter of time before the Raps were WAY more valuable than the Leafs. Simple economics.

Why don't we get treated like it though?

TSN still puts CFL over us

i don't get it. what numbers are they using? are the raptors not drawing in as much viewership?

They were getting good viewership when they were good, but as far as I know that's dipped and it reflects in the attendance as well. The Raptors make money because the TV money is incredible in the NBA relative to the NHL.

As far as I know the CFL does get pretty good television ratings across the country. There's a lot of places without any other professional sports, so it makes some sense.

Naysorn · Post #18 » by **Naysorn** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:45 pm

raptorforlife88 wrote:
Naysorn wrote:
Badonkadonk wrote:My puckhead buddies would laugh when I told them it was only a matter of time before the Raps were WAY more valuable than the Leafs. Simple economics.

Why don't we get treated like it though?

TSN still puts CFL over us

i don't get it. what numbers are they using? are the raptors not drawing in as much viewership?

They were getting good viewership when they were good, but as far as I know that's dipped and it reflects in the attendance as well. The Raptors make money because the TV money is incredible in the NBA relative to the NHL.

As far as I know the CFL does get pretty good television ratings across the country. There's a lot of places without any other professional sports, so it makes some sense.

why is the tv money low? is it because the US doesnt care about hockey, and USD is stronger than CAD?

WaltFrazier · Post #19 » by **WaltFrazier** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:35 pm

tecumseh18 wrote:
The league’s 30 franchises were worth $4.4 billion on average this year, a 15% increase over 2023

So Raps are average value. Which isn't bad for a lottery team, especially one in a market where sports radio completely ignores them most of the time - all of the time in primetime.

OTOH, Raptors have a whole country to themselves. That has to be worth something.

If only it were worth something to NBA free agents and US TV networks

brownbobcat · Post #20 » by **brownbobcat** » Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:42 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:A lot of money in SF; tickets, sponsorship, local TV rights. That’s really what separates the top teams from the rest of the league. They’ll drop from 1, but will stay top 5.

There's a lot of money, but will it flow to the Warriors after Curry is gone? It's not like Toronto where money and eyeballs latch onto the Leafs no matter how they're doing. I know these valuations don't mean much, but they've got Brooklyn at nearly half GSW.