Wembanyama is officially faster to 200 career three-pointers than Curry, Harden & Ray Allen

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Re: Wembanyama is officially faster to 200 career three-pointers than Curry, Harden & Ray Allen 

Post#2 » by SerialChiller » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:39 pm

This league is becoming a joke lol
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Post#3 » by tsherkin » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:46 pm

This isn't an achievement worthy of note. He took 5.5 3PA/g at 32.5% as a rookie and is taking 9.1 3PA/g at 34.9% this season.

Curry, Harden and Ray are all considerably better shooters, despite the difference in speed to 200 3PM. This is a good example of how totals are influenced by era as much as anything else. He's also faster to 200+ ORB than Wilt, because they didn't track them in Chamberlain's career, but I'd suspect Wilt had double that in his rookie season, so where to place the value?
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Post#4 » by JDR720 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:46 pm

The most hyped bigman prospect since Shaq got turned into a 3pt specialist.
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Post#5 » by Blame Rasho » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:49 pm

It is a reflection of how much the game is geared towards shooting the three.

I didn’t have on my bingo card for Wemby though.

Anyways, look at it like this, Draymond Green has more 3 pointers in his career than Dirk… which says something.
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Post#6 » by LeBronSpaghetti » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:54 pm

For all the people who bitch and complain about too much three point shooting (and I’m not one of them), Wemby is probably the poster boy for who should be the subject of your criticisms. The guy is 7’4’’, a terrible three point shooter, and yet that’s basically all he does now is chuck threes.
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Post#7 » by badpotato » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:04 pm

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:For all the people who bitch and complain about too much three point shooting (and I’m not one of them), Wemby is probably the poster boy for who should be the subject of your criticisms. The guy is 7’4’’, a terrible three point shooter, and yet that’s basically all he does now is chuck threes.


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Post#8 » by tsherkin » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:08 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:Anyways, look at it like this, Draymond Green has more 3 pointers in his career than Dirk… which says something.


For all his reputation as a shooter, Dirk didn't take a ton of threes at all, even compared to his in-era peers. Dude has 4 seasons of 4.5+ (never more than 4.9) and 3 of those were in the books by 2003. He dropped down to like 1.5 / 2.0 3PA/g until his mid-30s. His best years were marked primarily by slashing and mid-range/post dominance.
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Post#9 » by Bornstellar » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:08 pm

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:For all the people who bitch and complain about too much three point shooting (and I’m not one of them), Wemby is probably the poster boy for who should be the subject of your criticisms. The guy is 7’4’’, a terrible three point shooter, and yet that’s basically all he does now is chuck threes.

Bro is hitting 35% on 9 attempts. While he isn't Steph Curry, that certainly isn't "terrible." Try again
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Post#10 » by HMFFL » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:14 pm

Once he becomes a better three point shooter he's going to become deadly. Not many teams want to guard three point shooting and due to his size Wemby has plenty of open looks.

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Post#11 » by tsherkin » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:26 pm

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LeBronSpaghetti wrote:For all the people who bitch and complain about too much three point shooting (and I’m not one of them), Wemby is probably the poster boy for who should be the subject of your criticisms. The guy is 7’4’’, a terrible three point shooter, and yet that’s basically all he does now is chuck threes.

Bro is hitting 35% on 9 attempts. While he isn't Steph Curry, that certainly isn't "terrible." Try again


34.5%. Under a league average of 36.0%. At 9.1 3PA/g.

"Terrible" is probably hyperbolic, I agree, but he isn't good at it right now. Certainly not good enough that the volume at which he is bombing from 3 is a particularly positive idea with good offense in mind as the goal.

Wemby having a 3pt shot has its utility, but we'll have to see what happens as San Antonio acquires more talent and becomes more serious about winning. I have to hope that they cut down that volume at least a little, minding that some of it is probably about preserving his body, because they're wasting a lot of possessions this way. There's the old eFG% formula which suggests that 33% 3P is equivalent to 50% 2FG, but that escapes foul draw, offensive rebounding, long rebounds which let the D race out in transition, and all that, right?
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Post#12 » by LeBronSpaghetti » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:29 pm

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LeBronSpaghetti wrote:For all the people who bitch and complain about too much three point shooting (and I’m not one of them), Wemby is probably the poster boy for who should be the subject of your criticisms. The guy is 7’4’’, a terrible three point shooter, and yet that’s basically all he does now is chuck threes.

Bro is hitting 35% on 9 attempts. While he isn't Steph Curry, that certainly isn't "terrible." Try again

Ok he isn’t terrible he’s just bad. This is a guy who’s shooting under 35% from three and over 60% on two point attempts. Basically, every time he attempts a three instead of a two he hurts his team, and he does that A LOT.
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Post#13 » by Rust_Cohle » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:29 pm

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:For all the people who bitch and complain about too much three point shooting (and I’m not one of them), Wemby is probably the poster boy for who should be the subject of your criticisms. The guy is 7’4’’, a terrible three point shooter, and yet that’s basically all he does now is chuck threes.


He’s shooting 41% from downtown in his last 15 games. He’s far from a terrible 3 point shooter
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Post#14 » by UcanUwill » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:33 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:
LeBronSpaghetti wrote:For all the people who bitch and complain about too much three point shooting (and I’m not one of them), Wemby is probably the poster boy for who should be the subject of your criticisms. The guy is 7’4’’, a terrible three point shooter, and yet that’s basically all he does now is chuck threes.

Bro is hitting 35% on 9 attempts. While he isn't Steph Curry, that certainly isn't "terrible." Try again


34.5%. Under a league average of 36.0%. At 9.1 3PA/g.

"Terrible" is probably hyperbolic, I agree, but he isn't good at it right now. Certainly not good enough that the volume at which he is bombing from 3 is a particularly positive idea with good offense in mind as the goal.

Wemby having a 3pt shot has its utility, but we'll have to see what happens as San Antonio acquires more talent and becomes more serious about winning. I have to hope that they cut down that volume at least a little, minding that some of it is probably about preserving his body, because they're wasting a lot of possessions this way. There's the old eFG% formula which suggests that 33% 3P is equivalent to 50% 2FG, but that escapes foul draw, offensive rebounding, long rebounds which let the D race out in transition, and all that, right?


I hate the fact he shoots so many 3s, but at least he is getting better. My problem with him wanting to be next Durant was always the fact he was not a good shooter, being Durant is not easy, KD is one of the best shooters of all time... It just seems like scoring inside should be far easier option for him, but he is dedicated of being 3 point specialist and if his team is fine with it, not my problem. He is 7'5 with quick release, basically every shot he takes is an open shot for him, cause no one can contest that, so there is clear path for him to become super dominant while shooting 3s, he just needs to get good at it and its over, hes unguardable. Just feels that it is harder less guaranteed way to go by, you would imagine 7'5 super athlete would destroy everyone near the hoop.
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Re: Wembanyama is officially faster to 200 career three-pointers than Curry, Harden & Ray Allen 

Post#15 » by Effigy » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:33 pm

The Spurs have a generational talent with physical gifts that give him an extreme advantage in specific situations, and they flush all of that and tell him to stand in the corner and jack 3’s.
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Post#16 » by tsherkin » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:39 pm

Rust_Cohle wrote:He’s shooting 41% from downtown in his last 15 games. He’s far from a terrible 3 point shooter


It's 2024, man. Can we please stop using small samples to justify broader comments?

Yes, he's better than he was last year; yes, he's on an upward arc of improvement. No, he's still pretty bad from 3 right now, regardless of the past 15 games.

UcanUwill wrote:I hate the fact he shoots so many 3s, but at least he is getting better.


Yes. And I'm learning to deal with it because San Antonio isn't seriously trying to win right now. And because given his build, finding ways to keep him healthy is intelligent.

We all want to see his middle and interior game feature more prominently. He's even been better at it this year than last. But some patience does make sense, even if it is horrendously frustrating. Lately, though, I've just been sighing, then watching him disrupt the entire offense because he's in their heads even when they are beyond the arc and he is in the key, heh.
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Post#17 » by QingJames » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:40 pm

badpotato wrote:
LeBronSpaghetti wrote:For all the people who bitch and complain about too much three point shooting (and I’m not one of them), Wemby is probably the poster boy for who should be the subject of your criticisms. The guy is 7’4’’, a terrible three point shooter, and yet that’s basically all he does now is chuck threes.


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35% on 9 shots per game is bad, yeah.
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Post#18 » by brackdan70 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:41 pm

I think it’s great for him…and his team in the future. A big who can stretch the floor add so much to team success. Now is 9 a game where you want him to be? That’s probably a bit much, but it’s development at this point. I’d like to see him start chucking up some longer ones Porzingis style 28 footers. A caveat is he does need to develop the rest of his tool box on offense as well.
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Post#19 » by shrink » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:42 pm

This is just the change in the game. Duncan Robinson was averaging 250 three’s a season for his first three full seasons in the NBA.

Always nice to have a three point shot in the arsenal these days, but until lately, coaches weren’t letting players even take that many attempts, especially big men.
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Post#20 » by UcanUwill » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:45 pm

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badpotato wrote:
LeBronSpaghetti wrote:For all the people who bitch and complain about too much three point shooting (and I’m not one of them), Wemby is probably the poster boy for who should be the subject of your criticisms. The guy is 7’4’’, a terrible three point shooter, and yet that’s basically all he does now is chuck threes.


:lol:

35% on 9 shots per game is bad, yeah.


It is definitely not terrible though, and hes been trending up, his first two weeks of the season were pretty bad. There are players like Ja Morant or Trae Young who like to chuck, and their percentages are noticeably worse than 35%.

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