SHAMS: Phoenix Trades Unprotected 2031 First to Utah for three lesser firsts.

Post #1 » by **Domejandro** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:05 am

DusterBuster · Post #2 » by **DusterBuster** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:06 am

Seems like a clear precursor to a Butler deal of some sort...

Ainge betting on the Suns to be a complete dumpster fire by then I guess?

tcheco · Post #3 » by **tcheco** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:06 am

Me in franchise mode in 2k is reality now

TeamTragic · Post #4 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:07 am

DusterBuster wrote:Seems like a clear precursor to a Butler deal of some sort...

The first domino has fallen!

canada_dry · Post #5 » by **canada_dry** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:08 am

Well...that means something.

inconvenient truth...we're too good! -Phil Blackson

Dr Aki · Post #6 » by **Dr Aki** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:08 am

They're really gonna give Jimmy 121 million dollar extension?

Pantsman · Post #7 » by **Pantsman** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:09 am

Why are the jazz doing this? Trading for a first round pick 6 years out is bold.

Castle Black · Post #8 » by **Castle Black** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:10 am

Jimmy Butler you ARE a Phoenix Sun.

Catchall · Post #9 » by **Catchall** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:10 am

As a Jazz fan, I can see moving the '25 Cavs pick, which will be #29 or #30 in an iffy draft.
In 2027, the Jazz have 4 1sts, including their own, the Twolves, Cavs and Lakers (top 4 protected), so I can see moving one.
In 2029, I think the Jazz are planning to be good, so maybe they'd move their own pick.

Jazz are betting on the Suns being out of All Stars and being out of assets down the road.

RookieStar · Post #10 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:11 am

Its happening!!!!

TeamTragic · Post #11 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:11 am

Catchall wrote:As a Jazz fan, I can see moving the '25 Cavs pick, which will be #29 or #30 in an iffy draft.
In 2027, the Jazz have 4 1sts, including their own, the Twolves, Cavs and Lakers (top 4 protected), so I can see moving one.
In 2029, I think the Jazz are planning to be good, so maybe they'd move their own pick.

Jazz are betting on the Suns being out of All Stars and being out of assets down the road.

I don't think the Jazz are planning to be good in 2029.

guynumber45 · Post #12 » by **guynumber45** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:12 am

I guess Phoenix has no choice but to go all in given what their small window. But even if they grab Jimmy, I doubt this works out. These big all-in for star players have pretty much never yielded a championship. The last several championships have been organically grown internally.

Post #13 » by **ijspeelman** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:14 am

Its definitely so they can split that pick into multiple trades instead of just one big trade. However, these are pretty low value picks on their own whereas that Suns 2031 was pretty valuable. Will be cool to see what is next.

Catchall · Post #14 » by **Catchall** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:14 am

TeamTragic wrote:
Catchall wrote:As a Jazz fan, I can see moving the '25 Cavs pick, which will be #29 or #30 in an iffy draft.
In 2027, the Jazz have 4 1sts, including their own, the Twolves, Cavs and Lakers (top 4 protected), so I can see moving one.
In 2029, I think the Jazz are planning to be good, so maybe they'd move their own pick.

Jazz are betting on the Suns being out of All Stars and being out of assets down the road.

I don't think the Jazz are planning to be good in 2029.

I do.

JustBuzzin · Post #15 » by **JustBuzzin** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:18 am

Wow PHX really about to get Jimmy B.

KD is running through superteams.

His legacy is only getting funnier the more the years past.

His teammates since he left GSW.

Kyrie/Harden/KD
CP3/Booker/KD
Beal/Booker/KD
Jimmy/Booker/KD

Cmon KD get your ish together and win another ring.

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #16 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:18 am

Why does this mean Butler to Phoenix is imminent?

Isn’t the main issue Bradley Beal? His no trade clause and no one wanting him or his contract?

Even if you attach a FRP to Beal what teams are going to take on that contract for the 30th pick in the draft?

Why would Miami now want x3 low not incredibly valuable picks opposed to the juicy unprotected ‘31 FRP?

I think there’s still a lot of work to be done to get Butler in Phoenix

mademan · Post #17 » by **mademan** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:22 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Why does this mean Butler to Phoenix is imminent?

Isn’t the main issue Bradley Beal? His no trade clause and no one wanting him or his contract?

Even if you attach a FRP to Beal what teams are going to take on that contract for the 30th pick in the draft?

Why would Miami now want x3 low not incredibly valuable picks opposed to the juicy unprotected ‘31 FRP?

I think there’s still a lot of work to be done to get Butler in Phoenix

Miami is probably satisfied with a single 1st if it comes with no future salary, which leaves 2 1sts to dump Beal, which would be the cost, imo.

HayKee · Post #18 » by **HayKee** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:23 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Why does this mean Butler to Phoenix is imminent?
Even if you attach a FRP to Beal what teams are going to take on that contract for the 30th pick in the draft?

Is the Beal contract really that bad? It's shorter than I thought it was, 1 year after this + a player option. I wouldn't say he's completely cooked.

Catchall · Post #19 » by **Catchall** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:26 am

Maybe the Suns have to attach two FRPs to move Beal? Why trade for 3 FRPs right now?

TeamTragic · Post #20 » by **TeamTragic** » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:28 am

HayKee wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:Why does this mean Butler to Phoenix is imminent?
Even if you attach a FRP to Beal what teams are going to take on that contract for the 30th pick in the draft?

Is the Beal contract really that bad? It's shorter than I thought it was, 1 year after this + a player option. I wouldn't say he's completely cooked.

Heat owner is cheap and tax apron penalties.