Will LeBron take a backseat to Luka or sabotage him like he did Wade?

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Will LeBron take a backseat to Luka or sabotage him like he did Wade? 

Post#1 » by Handlez » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:03 pm

Obviously the trade is corrupt and scripted, but let's talk about how Luka and LeBron fit.

Luka has hefty career averages, currently the highest PPG career average in the NBA.

Will Luka's numbers suffer and will LeBron sabotage the team if he knows he can't win FMVP? (If they make finals)

Luka currently has better career numbers than LeBron and I hope he doesn't let LeBron ruin that.
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Post#2 » by Homer38 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:06 pm

LeBron had just a awful series vs Dallas in 2011,nothing against Wade....LBJ was also awful in the 2 games vs Dallas in the regular season.

If you watch the lakers in the last few months,Reaves had way more often the ball that LBJ....
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Post#3 » by Handlez » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:11 pm

Homer38 wrote:LeBron had just a awful series vs Dallas in 2011,nothing against Wade....LBJ was also awful in the 2 games vs Dallas in the regular season.

If you watch the lakers in the last few months,Reaves had way more often the ball that LBJ....


So the supposed GOAT just had a bad finals.

I see.

The zero sense of urgency, Wade shaking his head at him, etc...just a bad series.

It'd be more believable if he looked like he was trying.
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Re: Will LeBron take a backseat to Luka or sabotage him like he did Wade? 

Post#4 » by Homer38 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:15 pm

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Homer38 wrote:LeBron had just a awful series vs Dallas in 2011,nothing against Wade....LBJ was also awful in the 2 games vs Dallas in the regular season.

If you watch the lakers in the last few months,Reaves had way more often the ball that LBJ....


So the supposed GOAT just had a bad finals.

I see.

The zero sense of urgency, Wade shaking his head at him, etc...just a bad series.

It'd be more believable if he looked like he was trying.


What are you talking?

We all know the awful series he had in 2011 but it was nothing to do with the FMVP.Better winning a ring(with no FMVP) that losing in the finals by being awful...Your comment make no sense
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Post#5 » by Enso » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:16 pm

Wade was going to win finals mvp In 2011. He had been there before and had the it factor. The moment was too big for Bron and he shrunk. Kudos to Wade next year taking a step back and letting James go through the fire and earning that 1a role.

I think James is smart enough to know he’s gonna be 1b in this situation. Luka’s gonna be handed over the keys.
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Post#6 » by Handlez » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:16 pm

Homer38 wrote:
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Homer38 wrote:LeBron had just a awful series vs Dallas in 2011,nothing against Wade....LBJ was also awful in the 2 games vs Dallas in the regular season.

If you watch the lakers in the last few months,Reaves had way more often the ball that LBJ....


So the supposed GOAT just had a bad finals.

I see.

The zero sense of urgency, Wade shaking his head at him, etc...just a bad series.

It'd be more believable if he looked like he was trying.


What are you talking?

We all know the awful series he had in 2011 but it was nothing to do with the FMVP.Better winning a ring(with no FMVP) that losing in the finals by being awful...Your comment make no sense


I'm saying LeBron would rather lose than win a title without a FMVP.
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Post#7 » by The Master » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:16 pm

One of the few positives of Doncic trade is that some LeBron haters were in coma and now they are definitely awake, it's always a good sign. :lol:

The most important question that needs to be answered is - how does Doncic trade affect LeBron's legacy?
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Post#8 » by Handlez » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:17 pm

Enso wrote:Wade was going to win finals mvp In 2011. He had been there before and had the it factor. The moment was too big for Bron and he shrunk. Kudos to Wade next year taking a step back and letting James go through the fire and earning that 1a role.

I think James is smart enough to know he’s gonna be 1b in this situation. Luka’s gonna be handed over the keys.


LeBron is very smart. Calculated.

But I'm not talking intelligence.

I'm talking ego.
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Post#9 » by Homer38 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:17 pm

Handlez wrote:
Homer38 wrote:
Handlez wrote:
So the supposed GOAT just had a bad finals.

I see.

The zero sense of urgency, Wade shaking his head at him, etc...just a bad series.

It'd be more believable if he looked like he was trying.


What are you talking?

We all know the awful series he had in 2011 but it was nothing to do with the FMVP.Better winning a ring(with no FMVP) that losing in the finals by being awful...Your comment make no sense


I'm saying LeBron would rather lose than win a title without a FMVP.


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Post#10 » by EmpireFalls » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:19 pm

LeBron did not sabotage Wade lol.

Wade was very bad in the Chicago series, almost as bad as LeBron was in the Dallas series in 2011 anyway. And then Wade was clearly not as good as LeBron in either of their two titles especially 2013 where Wade was really shaky after the knee injury. They had some warts fitting together but the Miami team was very successful by any possible measure.
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Post#11 » by NBA4Lyfe » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:23 pm

Handlez wrote:Obviously the trade is corrupt and scripted, but let's talk about how Luka and LeBron fit.

Luka has hefty career averages, currently the highest PPG career average in the NBA.

Will Luka's numbers suffer and will LeBron sabotage the team if he knows he can't win FMVP? (If they make finals)

Luka currently has better career numbers than LeBron and I hope he doesn't let LeBron ruin that.




Is water wet?

LeBron aint taking a backseat to nobody



I still maintain to this day that LeBron tanked that Mavs series in 2011 because he knew dwade was the favorite to win finals mvp

He's a bigger narcissist than prime Floyd mayweather jr. and I never thought I would live to see that
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Post#12 » by Handlez » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:29 pm

NBA4Lyfe wrote:
Handlez wrote:Obviously the trade is corrupt and scripted, but let's talk about how Luka and LeBron fit.

Luka has hefty career averages, currently the highest PPG career average in the NBA.

Will Luka's numbers suffer and will LeBron sabotage the team if he knows he can't win FMVP? (If they make finals)

Luka currently has better career numbers than LeBron and I hope he doesn't let LeBron ruin that.




Is water wet?

LeBron aint taking a backseat to nobody



I still maintain to this day that LeBron tanked that Mavs series in 2011 because he knew dwade was the favorite to win finals mvp

He's a bigger narcissist than prime Floyd mayweather jr. and I never thought I would live to see that


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Post#13 » by Enso » Mon Feb 3, 2025 5:33 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:LeBron did not sabotage Wade lol.

Wade was very bad in the Chicago series, almost as bad as LeBron was in the Dallas series in 2011 anyway. And then Wade was clearly not as good as LeBron in either of their two titles especially 2013 where Wade was really shaky after the knee injury. They had some warts fitting together but the Miami team was very successful by any possible measure.


Wade would struggle vs Chicago in certain parts of his career, especially in Chicago it was a mental block. There was the pressure of being home and playing in front of everyone he knew. So you’re correct on that. They both hit huge shots in the clincher though vs Chicago in that wild comeback.

In regards to the finals some were saying he sabotaged it on purpose but in don’t think so. Was more subconscious, it was for sure bothering him due to his ego and prob didn’t help get him out of his head but throwing the finals makes no sense unless you’re a psycho. He froze and the moment was too big for him. Was scared to take shots towards the end too.

As for wade in the following years he struggled with his body at times and slowly declined but it was never a sharp drop off until maybe the 2014 playoffs.

For example he looked pretty damn good here in 2013

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Post#14 » by Lalouie » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:01 pm

he's too old to sabotage anyone and he's not making waves with the lakers. hellz, he's too old to punch in his 28ppg and that's why he's a 9apg player this year.

he wants to retire a laker
lebron has never played with this level of player. luka's star might just be too bright for lebron to dim even if lebron was 8yrs younger, especially the way i expect the lakers to roll out the red carpet for luka. and the angelinos are going to embrace luka

but he also isn't changing his game either and the lakers need his points. he's been ball dominant all of his 73 years and that's hard to change
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Post#15 » by cupcakesnake » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:56 pm

Handlez wrote:Obviously the trade is corrupt and scripted, but let's talk about how Luka and LeBron fit.

Luka has hefty career averages, currently the highest PPG career average in the NBA.

Will Luka's numbers suffer and will LeBron sabotage the team if he knows he can't win FMVP? (If they make finals)

Luka currently has better career numbers than LeBron and I hope he doesn't let LeBron ruin that.


Man... stop making bad threads.

Lebron is 40 and has no first step. He's been ceding playmaking reps to guys like D'Lo and Austin Reaves the past couple years. You think he'll want the ball more now that he has an elite playmaker?

I'm a Lebron hater who has been critical of the ways he monopolizes the offense in the past, but old man Lebron couldn't even do that if he wanted. His scoring numbers have become pretty dependant on getting some decent catch & shoot looks, getting out in transition, and getting the ball on the move.
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Post#16 » by Tottery » Mon Feb 3, 2025 6:59 pm

Reaves handles the ball most times. Now it will be Luka. I imagine Reaves coming off the bench when 1 of those 2 sit. Gonna have a great offense, but defense has been hit.

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Post#17 » by lambchop » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:01 pm

The Master wrote:One of the few positives of Doncic trade is that some LeBron haters were in coma and now they are definitely awake, it's always a good sign. :lol:

The most important question that needs to be answered is - how does Doncic trade affect LeBron's legacy?


This. The whole LeBron villain time was peak for NBA media, despite social media not even being a thing back then. Now, old narratives can be rekindled. Amazing move for the league.
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Post#18 » by SkyBill40 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:02 pm

James is far along in his career and will feel it necessary to turn things over to Doncic since it'll be his team soon enough. Just how quickly he does so remains to be seen. All I know is that this move is going to expose some of the players on the Lakers for being propped up by James rather than standing firmly on their own ground. Reaves specifically.
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Post#19 » by infinite11285 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:02 pm

Handlez wrote:
Homer38 wrote:LeBron had just a awful series vs Dallas in 2011,nothing against Wade....LBJ was also awful in the 2 games vs Dallas in the regular season.

If you watch the lakers in the last few months,Reaves had way more often the ball that LBJ....


So the supposed GOAT just had a bad finals.

I see.

The zero sense of urgency, Wade shaking his head at him, etc...just a bad series.

It'd be more believable if he looked like he was trying.


Are you purposively ignoring the two consecutive championships following 2011? That's considered sabotage?

Personally, I don’t see how having two players capable of averaging a triple-double on the same roster is a bad fit (LeBron fit with Rondo just fine), but time will tell. Are there glaring weaknesses on the roster? Absolutely. But there are still potential moves to be made, so we’ll see how things unfold.
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Post#20 » by Jcity08 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 7:02 pm

Lebron is just about at the end of his career, theres very little he can do to sabotage Luka, and judging by the Lakers plans for the future I doubt they'd allow a sabotage even for the LeGM.
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