2024-2025 Summer Transaction Thread- last chance to make a move?

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Know the mods like a new thread after 100 pages so let’s move it here if that works.

Magic have the summer and trade deadline before they’re cap screwed to make MOVES. Yes they’ll need more than one move with this dysfunctional offense and roster.

Orlando will have the following assets to move:

WCJ
AB
Jett
Gary
JI
KCP

2025 Pick, Denver 2025 Pick, Phoenix 2026 Pick swap and plenty other 1sts.

[89Magicfan]

Get rid of this front office first.

[uraverage]

Keep the 2026 pick.. it could be sweet.

[dsg2021]

This summer, kidnap the best players from the other teams and steal their skills to create a MonStars Magic team.

[anothermagicfan]

Start it off with a bang.

Draft night trade:
Orlando out: KCP/Cole/WCJ/ Both 1st in this draft and the suns swap in 2026

Phoenix out: BOOKER

[thelead]

Start it off with a bang.

Draft night trade:
Orlando out: KCP/Cole/WCJ/ Both 1st in this draft and the suns swap in 2026

Phoenix out: BOOKER

Booker and Trae have to be on the radar.

[3ddman23]

They have to make a trade in the summer .. it's just has to be done. If they don't then as some on here say this organization just isn't serious and we might as well pack Paolo & Franz bags now.

[anothermagicfan]

Phoenix is on the books for like 210 million next year and most of that is KD/Beal/Booker. Durant is only getting older, Beal has a no trade clause and Booker in his prime and they can't compete. Even trading Durant won't make them compete in the West. Beal isn't old but he's not the same player that earned his contract.

I doubt the suns have a way to build a championship caliber roster and get out of the tax with Beal. The only way to get rid of his contract is to make his situation there suck. Blow it up and get as many picks and prospects as possible from the 3.

Booker is the star player that's stuck on a team with no support yet a ton of money spent.

Could you imagine

Suggs/AB
Booker/Jett
Franz/TDS
Paolo/JI
Goga/Moe

[FFBlitzace]

We have significant, obvious problems, but if there wasn't a good trade out there, there wasn't a good trade out there. Aside from players we actually want to keep and not trade, our best assets are picks. Well, you had Jimmy Butler on the market, but obviously we're not going to move in on him. Not on Ingram either. Fox sounds like that was just a one-team race from the start. So who were we supposed to get? And don't name a guy who wasn't traded. If a guy wasn't traded, then he either wasn't on the market or the asking price was too high.

It's not even about defending Weltman. I agree that he's not aggressive and I fear he may not be aggressive enough when the time is right and he needs to be. That's a real concern I share with everybody. So this isn't about defending Weltman or pretending like he can do no wrong. But you can't just make up trades in your head and get mad at the team for not doing them.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Start it off with a bang.

Draft night trade:
Orlando out: KCP/Cole/WCJ/ Both 1st in this draft and the suns swap in 2026

Phoenix out: BOOKER

Phoenix laughs and hangs up the phone. We’d need to include AB at minimum for them to think about it.

[RookieStar]

Bette4 lock that other threas first


Also, you guys think we will be active in the buyout/waiver market?

We found gems in Goga and Moe there

[jjohns828]

We have significant, obvious problems, but if there wasn't a good trade out there, there wasn't a good trade out there. Aside from players we actually want to keep and not trade, our best assets are picks. Well, you had Jimmy Butler on the market, but obviously we're not going to move in on him. Not on Ingram either. Fox sounds like that was just a one-team race from the start. So who were we supposed to get? And don't name a guy who wasn't traded. If a guy wasn't traded, then he either wasn't on the market or the asking price was too high.

It's not even about defending Weltman. I agree that he's not aggressive and I fear he may not be aggressive enough when the time is right and he needs to be. That's a real concern I share with everybody. So this isn't about defending Weltman or pretending like he can do no wrong. But you can't just make up trades in your head and get mad at the team for not doing them.

If this was a one off or even just a couple times I could buy that argument but when you look at his whole tenure especially since we moved on from the Gordon/Vucevic/Fournier core I just don't think he gets the benefit of the doubt that there was nothing out there available. You might be right this time but I think he's used up the right for fans to be satisfied with that argument.

[JF5]

I like how they've given the young guys a chance. This year has been rough but it was a fantastic developmental year.

[rcklsscognition]

They are getting Trae Young this summer I don’t care what it costs as long as it’s not Suggs P5 or Franz.

[Idiosyncratic]

I don't really get the making moves before the extensions kick in thing. It's not like they are less likely to be an apron team because they got someone before the extensions kicked in. It would just mean they have less assets available when it's time to fill in the roster with players who can overperform their contracts.

Any short term trade this year would have just been less flexibility we have when it starts getting really tricky. That is why I would value trading for players on good contracts or developing our own players. Or just using the picks/prospects to go all-in when Paolo and Franz are good enough to go all-in with.

Now maybe some people value losing to the Celtics in 5 instead of 4 and that would have made a move worth it, but to me I don't see it. Again I would have looked to tinker on the edges, but I think going into the offseason with full flexibility is better for our overall title odds than making a deal with this season, maybe next season in mind. Now of course that means at some point they do have to do something, that should be obvious. I just don't think it mattered right now.

[anothermagicfan]

Start it off with a bang.

Draft night trade:
Orlando out: KCP/Cole/WCJ/ Both 1st in this draft and the suns swap in 2026

Phoenix out: BOOKER

Phoenix laughs and hangs up the phone. We’d need to include AB at minimum for them to think about it.

They are in salary cap hell with a 37 year old KD and a 32 year old Beal that holds all the cards and a prime 29 year old Booker going into next season. They aren't in the position to hang up the phone on cap relief and 3 first rounders and some tank commanders. They know it and that's why they were trying to trade KD.

[byeganyo]

The best trade Orlando could make is trading weltman somewhere. I dont know how much power he had in toronto, but if it was up to him, do you think they will have traded for kawhi? LOL, derozan would be still there and making 40m right now.

[toquito]

From what I understand, it's extremely hard to have 3 max players on a roster in this CBA. You have to fill out the rest of your roster on rookie contracts or vet min. So for the people wanting to trade for Trae or Booker, keep this in mind that this is a risky idea. You can probably only make this type of trade once, and after that you need picks and luck to have other decent rotation players.

The other option, which is more standard, is to avoid having 3 max players. I think this is what our front office is doing: to build around Franz and Paolo with two-way players (meaning players that are capable on the offensive and defensive end). The hope thus far has been to stack young talent that will develop into a strong supporting cast. After this season, depending on how we finish out, we will continue with this internal development or trade assets for better supporting players. But I think our trades will be limited to rotation players, not all-star level players that are being suggested.

[The Real Dalic]

From what I understand, it's extremely hard to have 3 max players on a roster in this CBA. You have to fill out the rest of your roster on rookie contracts or vet min. So for the people wanting to trade for Trae or Booker, keep this in mind that this is a risky idea. You can probably only make this type of trade once, and after that you need picks and luck to have other decent rotation players.

The other option, which is more standard, is to avoid having 3 max players. I think this is what our front office is doing: to build around Franz and Paolo with two-way players (meaning players that are capable on the offensive and defensive end). The hope thus far has been to stack young talent that will develop into a strong supporting cast. After this season, depending on how we finish out, we will continue with this internal development or trade assets for better supporting players. But I think our trades will be limited to rotation players, not all-star level players that are being suggested.

"Two-way players" is hilarious considering we only have 2 two-way players on the roster in Franz and Suggs. Paolo has the potential to be an elite offensive player and top 10 in the league, but only average on defense. Outside of those 3, we do not have even ONE player who has shown even an inkling of being good on offense. Not a single iota. It's just good defenders and bad defenders with absolutely 0 offense. Period.

[The Real Dalic]

Also, stop suggesting this FO trade for any sort of offensive players. They, literally, have not made ONE move towards that goal. They absolutely refuse to do it. It's not going to happen. We've seen this FO for almost a literal decade and they have not shown an inkling of it. It's getting irritating that people continue to wish for this. The only way you'll get offense on the Orlando Magic, is to fire the morons running the team.