Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves

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Select one of each option (4 total questions)

Q1) Keep Front Office
103
22%
Q1) Change Front Office (who?)
4
1%
Q2) Keep Head Coach
99
22%
Q2) Change Head Coach (who?)
9
2%
Q3) Performed better than Expected
66
14%
Q3) Performed as Expected
55
12%
Q3) Performed worse than Expected
3
1%
Q4) Improving team
46
10%
Q4) Treadmill team
63
14%
Q4) Declining team
11
2%
 
Total votes: 459

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Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#1 » by Clav » Thu May 29, 2025 3:01 am

Timberwolves become our first finalist eliminated and the 27th team out of contention.

Previous Threads:
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Time of death: May 28, 2025
Record at elimination: 49-33 (9-6 in playoffs)
Head coach: Chris Finch

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https://www.spotrac.com/nba/minnesota-timberwolves/yearly
Contract summary:
Anthony Edwards - $202,446,720/4 Years ($50,611,680 annual)
Rudy Gobert - $109,500,000/3 Years (last year Player Option)
Julius Randle - $30,935,520 Player Option
Jaden McDaniels - $110,482,758/4 Years ($27,620,690 annual)
Naz Reid - $15,022,464 Player Option
Donte DiVincenzo - $24,525,000/2 Years
Mike Conley - $10,774,038 (Expiring)
Rob Dillingham - $22,228,656/3 Years (1+2TO)
Nickeil Alexander-Walker - Unrestricted Free Agent
Terrence Shannon Jr. - $10,529,879/3 Years (1+2 TO)

Rookie Scale/minimums (varies on 2-4 years remaining):
Rob Dillingham - $22,228,656/3 Years (1+2TO)
Terrence Shannon Jr. - $10,529,879/3 Years (1+2 TO)
Luka Garza - $2,349,578 (Team Option)
Joe Ingles - Unrestricted Free Agent
Josh Minott - $2,187,451 (Team Option)
Leonard Miller - $4,627,882/2 Years (TO)
Jaylen Clark - $2,191,897

Two-Way Players:
Bones Hyland
Jesse Edwards
Tristen Newton
Dead-cap – None this season, non retained in the future

PICKS for 2025 draft:
#17 and #31

Dead-cap – 2.6M off the books this season, NONE retained next season

25-26 Capspace – 2nd apron team, with contract extensions to decide this offseason (Reid, Randle, DiVencenzo). Without those holds, can drop below 1st Apron.


PICKS for 2025 draft:
DET 1st
UTA 2nd

A SMALL SEASON REVIEW:
https://www.espn.com/nba/team/schedule/_/name/min

Early on the Wolves were a hit-or-miss team, rotating win streaks with a handful of losses and even as late as Jan 20th, were just one game above .500. There were really good moments but also a lot of games given up in the final stretches showing cracks in the clutch performance of the team.
However, look no further than the stretch run where Minnesota ended up 12 games above .500 and into the playoffs as the 6th seed vs the former Minnesota team, the Lakers.

As the lower seed, Minnesota stormed out to a 3-1 lead, eventually closing out the series convincingly against LA. The new-look-Luka Lakers had issues generating offense with Minnesota’s size, and Randle stepped up big-time. Minnesota’s incredible run continued on vs the Warriors in R2.

This was a series where Minnesota lost Game 1 at home (as a 6v7 matchup, MN had a rare HCA as a 6th seed), but GSW also lost Curry to a hamstring injury. The following three games showed the Wolves’ advantages to claw back to 3-1, and eventually end the Warriors season 4-1.
The Wolves moved on to face Oklahoma City in the WCF.

Again, Minnesota played tough against the Thunder - showing playoff grit - but ultimately bow out after a 1-4 series loss at the hands of a historic team. Overall, they conclude the playoffs with a positive record and showcased some high level play, it was shooting and spacing against Oklahoma that doomed them, and preserving possessions without turning the ball over. A great year in Wolves history, but not enough to reach the ultimate challenge of the NBA Finals once again.

Julius Randle played well this year, and I’m not joking. He really helped Minnesota generate offensive action and held his own in the playoffs as another big body on this team full of length. Gobert, McDaniels, and Naz Reid all make shots difficult for smaller teams. Even if all have some detrimental play at times, they have Edwards who can absolutely win a playoff game as he showed vs LA. He’s added names to his hit list already. KD, Jokic, James, Doncic have all lost to Edwards in a series now.

MN has big contract questions to address in the coming months primarily with Reid and Randle, but also they have two selections in the draft to make use of. Some of the MN rookies played well in spare moments, but I'd like to see more of them moving forward as Conley has slowed down, a replacement is necessary.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#2 » by MN7725 » Thu May 29, 2025 3:03 am

As a Wolves fan, I still don't know how they even beat Phoenix last year with their PG rotation

I'm not a believer in Dillingham (too small) so they'll probably stay at this level next few years, capable of winning series against the right matchups
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#3 » by Johnny Tomala » Thu May 29, 2025 3:05 am

Keep, keep, better, improving.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#4 » by Domejandro » Thu May 29, 2025 3:06 am

Clav wrote:Timberwolves become our first finalist eliminated and the 27th team out of contention.


I would write a lot more per usual but I'm at the airport starting a wee trip, and I'm on my phone, so I will try to fill in the details soon.

Time of death: 28th May 2025
Record at elimination: 49-33 (9-6 in playoffs)
Head coach- Chris Finch

What do you think of the wolves season? They played tough and advanced through two rounds of playoffs only to meet the formidable thunder team. There's a handful of contract questions to address, Reid, Randle, and the team depth.

Overall a very good year with a repeat appearance in the WCF, but falling short again.

I was typing one up, so I can edit your post with the standard format/details.

EDIT: Added details. Feel free to nuke it and change whatever.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#5 » by gottamakeit » Thu May 29, 2025 3:06 am

Move on from Mike Conley & Gobert. Terrance Shannon deserves to get significant minutes next year.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#6 » by EmpireFalls » Thu May 29, 2025 3:11 am

Trading a big asset for Rob Dillingham is looking absolutely ghastly right about now.

I feel for Ant. He may not know it yet, but this is likely the best and deepest supporting cast he will ever get around him in Minnesota.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#7 » by MN7725 » Thu May 29, 2025 3:13 am

EmpireFalls wrote:Trading a big asset for Rob Dillingham is looking absolutely ghastly right about now.

I feel for Ant. He may not know it yet, but this is likely the best and deepest supporting cast he will ever get around him in Minnesota.


He'll just force a trade then

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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#8 » by Marvin Martian » Thu May 29, 2025 3:13 am

Do whatever it takes to get Durant without having to give up Ant, Gobert, or McDaniels.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#9 » by MN7725 » Thu May 29, 2025 3:15 am

Marvin Martian wrote:Do whatever it takes to get Durant without having to give up Ant, Gobert, or McDaniels.


Wolves need a PG, even an average one, more than they do KD
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#10 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu May 29, 2025 3:16 am

Getting to the WCF 2 seasons in a row, hopefully they can break through eventually.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#11 » by GeorgeSears » Thu May 29, 2025 3:32 am

Not sure how they'll rectify that PG situation. Because Dillingham is clearly not ready to be a starter, but old Mike Conley is finished. It's tough to find a veteran PG who on his best day can be a floor spacer like Conley was for them. NAW and DDV really couldn't provide the leadership and steadiness at that position like Conley could. They were probably preparing for this moment, but now have some choices to make.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#12 » by azcatz11 » Thu May 29, 2025 3:32 am

They need to find a way to acquire Reed Sheppard
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#13 » by Mags FTW » Thu May 29, 2025 3:45 am

This WCF appearance is fool's gold. They got to play a Laker team with no center, and GSW with no Curry. Denver took OKC to Game 7, but MIN didn't come close.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#14 » by ROballer » Thu May 29, 2025 3:54 am

Lot of clown takes about a guy who for 80% of the year, he was either sat with DNP-CD or saw exclusively garbage time minutes in the 4th when the game was out of reach. While the other 20% being lucky seeing 15 minutes a game. And this was when they ran out of bodies, they literally didn't have a valid PG for awhile and he still saw roughly 15 mins a game(while putting up good numbers).

How do you know he's not ready? How do you know they overpaid for him? If the guy never got one shot.

They played everyone from the janitor to guys who can't dribble like NAW and DDV as PG's....instead of him.

Yes, talking about Dil. Last year at the same time, if you took McCain over him everyone would call you insane.

Now it's the other way around. Single difference?
McCain was stuck behind a corpse(Lowry) but Nurse pulled his head out of his ass and figured it out.
Dil was stuck behind a corpse (Conley) but Finch didn't.


Play the guy regular rotation minutes for 40 games(all the minutes Conley is getting for doing nothing).
20-24 a game. Doesn't need to start, but play every game and not peanut minutes either.

Then decide what he is or isn't. Until then be quiet.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#15 » by Mamba81p » Thu May 29, 2025 3:55 am

Very complicated offseason.
3 big potential FA, and I don't think they can keep all 3.
1. What is the value of Randle? Will he opt-in because of the last series? He is eligible for over 300m over 5 years if he is a FA and sign with the Wolves. Obviously they will not give him that, and he doesn't really have many options out there.
2. Naz Reed has a smaller option and more leverage. He can basically make that money by signing a full MLE. I think they will keep him no matter what. He either opts out and signs a new deal, or opts in and signs an extension unless he wants to bet on himself.
3. How much is the new ownership willing to pay?
According to Forbes they had an operating income of around 70m $ last year(23-24) when they paid no tax.
4. Will they try to avoid being a tax team this year to avoid paying that repeater penalty for 1 more year? Starting with next season, the multipliers change quite drastically. If you are a repeater you feel from the start with a 3x rate. It is less painful if you are not a repeater and you don't go over the second bracket. Anything else becomes more painful.
The only way they can avoid the tax, other than just giving up on randle, is for Naz and Randle to pick up their options, and that puts them just over 4 mil $ over the tax. They can avoid the tax if they just trade conley for an exception. I don't see either of them opting in

If for example they pay all 3 combined around 80m $ for the first year with 8% increases, they are looking in 26-27 at a bill of over 100m $, and that's without their first round picks or players above min. Between 22 and 28 mil, the rate is 7.25(currently is 4.75-5.25).
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#16 » by Clav » Thu May 29, 2025 3:58 am

Domejandro wrote:
Clav wrote:Timberwolves become our first finalist eliminated and the 27th team out of contention.


I would write a lot more per usual but I'm at the airport starting a wee trip, and I'm on my phone, so I will try to fill in the details soon.

Time of death: 28th May 2025
Record at elimination: 49-33 (9-6 in playoffs)
Head coach- Chris Finch

What do you think of the wolves season? They played tough and advanced through two rounds of playoffs only to meet the formidable thunder team. There's a handful of contract questions to address, Reid, Randle, and the team depth.

Overall a very good year with a repeat appearance in the WCF, but falling short again.

I was typing one up, so I can edit your post with the standard format/details.

EDIT: Added details. Feel free to nuke it and change whatever.



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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#17 » by tsherkin » Thu May 29, 2025 3:59 am

Solid season. Got a bit lucky in the first round, but they won 49 games, did way better after the trade than expected and were 3 wins away from the Finals. Couldn't defend the Thunder and OKC got into Ant pretty badly on defense, which took his scoring game down a peg.

That's a pretty good year for the TWolves, really.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#18 » by karmew32 » Thu May 29, 2025 4:04 am

Feels like last year was the year for the Wolves and the team overachieved a bit this year.
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#19 » by Karate Diop » Thu May 29, 2025 4:25 am

A lot of people are saying they didn't play up to their talent level... I personally think that they did.

Love Conley, but he's done, Randle is trash. Gobert... I've defended in the past, but can't these playoffs.

They need a revamp.

Some of their young pieces have potential, so all is not lost...
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Re: Post Mortem #27 - Minnesota Timberwolves 

Post#20 » by dakomish23 » Thu May 29, 2025 5:07 am

Here’s my guess

They trade for Jrue Holiday. He helps them win a chip and goes down as the 2020’s Robert Horry, helping 3 teams win a championship
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