Knicks get Giannis

[zimpy27]

Knicks get Giannis, Kuzma

Bucks get Brunson, OG, Mitch


McBride, Hart, Mikal, Gainnis, KAT -- Kolek, Kuzma, Hukporti

Brunson, GTJ, OG, Portis, Mitch -- KPJ, AJ, Connaughton, Prince, BroLo


Knicks do whatever it takes to get Giannis and this is the only way they can make up the value. They'd have a TaxMLE and vet mins to round out roster.

Bucks get a reset with 3 players each 3 years younger than Giannis. They don't need their picks back because they plan to stay competitive for the seasons to come.

[JayMKE]

Bucks aren’t doing this, Bucks aren’t competing with these player it is only a fringe playoff team and would not have any picks for years or any way to improve. Knicks do not have the assets even if they gave all their picks in addition. Not close.

[zimpy27]

Bucks aren’t doing this, Bucks aren’t competing with these player it is only a fringe playoff team and would not have any picks for years or any way to improve. Knicks do not have the assets even if they gave all their picks in addition. Not close.

In 2026 offseason the Bucks would be able to trade their 26 FRP, 31 FRP and 33 FRP.
That's 3 FRPs and an expiring Lillard.


Bucks have 5 of their next 7 FRPs.

[SlimShady83]

I like Giannis on the Knicks, but Knicks not trading Brunson or OG. What about Kat and others not named Brunson/OG ?? Kat + fillers?

Until we all here talk that Giannis wants out we should stop with the Giannis trade talks, because Bucks have stated they want to keep Giannis, but if he asks for a trade out, then we can start talking trades

[daoneandonly]

I like Giannis on the Knicks, but Knicks not trading Brunson or OG. What about Kat and others not named Brunson/OG ?? Kat + fillers?

Until we all here talk that Giannis wants out we should stop with the Giannis trade talks, because Bucks have stated they want to keep Giannis, but if he asks for a trade out, then we can start talking trades

WHy would OG be off limits in a Giannis trade? In any trade that would improve the team?

[zimpy27]

I like Giannis on the Knicks, but Knicks not trading Brunson or OG. What about Kat and others not named Brunson/OG ?? Kat + fillers?

Until we all here talk that Giannis wants out we should stop with the Giannis trade talks, because Bucks have stated they want to keep Giannis, but if he asks for a trade out, then we can start talking trades

WHy would OG be off limits in a Giannis trade? In any trade that would improve the team?

Neither Brunson or OG would be off the table for Giannis.

[daoneandonly]

I like Giannis on the Knicks, but Knicks not trading Brunson or OG. What about Kat and others not named Brunson/OG ?? Kat + fillers?

Until we all here talk that Giannis wants out we should stop with the Giannis trade talks, because Bucks have stated they want to keep Giannis, but if he asks for a trade out, then we can start talking trades

WHy would OG be off limits in a Giannis trade? In any trade that would improve the team?

Neither Brunson or OG would be off the table for Giannis.

Of course different tiers, but I can see NY balking at a Brunson inclusion. He's the heart of their team and has familial ties up and down the org

[JayMKE]

Bucks aren’t doing this, Bucks aren’t competing with these player it is only a fringe playoff team and would not have any picks for years or any way to improve. Knicks do not have the assets even if they gave all their picks in addition. Not close.

In 2026 offseason the Bucks would be able to trade their 26 FRP, 31 FRP and 33 FRP.
That's 3 FRPs and an expiring Lillard.


Bucks have 5 of their next 7 FRPs.

Yea that’s not a good team nor one I would be trying to build out by giving away future draft picks when these guys probably aren’t even in the league, it’s not a core that will ever win anything. KAT is a laughable return as well, Horst would be worse than Nico Harrison. the Knicks made this mistake already which is why they lack assets. Being mediocre so New Orleans doesn’t get a better pick is not enticing. These players would be better off on another team, 3 years younger than Giannis is not a youth movement or guys you try to rebuild with. If the Knicks want Giannis they are better off hedging their bets in free agency since there isn’t a deal there of any interest for the Bucks

[Texas Chuck]

It's a little amusing that a team who was just in the conference final is being described as having a terrible core.

[spree8]

I like Giannis on the Knicks, but Knicks not trading Brunson or OG. What about Kat and others not named Brunson/OG ?? Kat + fillers?

Until we all here talk that Giannis wants out we should stop with the Giannis trade talks, because Bucks have stated they want to keep Giannis, but if he asks for a trade out, then we can start talking trades

WHy would OG be off limits in a Giannis trade? In any trade that would improve the team?

Neither Brunson or OG would be off the table for Giannis.

Knowing what the fanbase does about Leon and his values, I don’t think you’d get any real Knick fan to believe he would trade his godson for anyone in the league. He’s not Doc Rivers. Katz @ the 1:55 mark talks about this…

Watch on YouTube

[Ron Swanson]

Brunson makes zero sense as the main return in a Giannis trade with Lillard still taking up 40% of their cap room and on top of that there are zero first round picks included? Not a serious offer.

[JayMKE]

It's a little amusing that a team who was just in the conference final is being described as having a terrible core.

Maybe they can hang an ECF runner up banner. Do you think it’s a championship core yes or no? Do you think the Knicks will be returning to the ECF? If we replayed the Celtics series do you think the Knicks still win? Do you think Brunson, OG, and Robinson will be championship level players in 5 years?

If the answer to all of these is no then don’t propose this sort of hell on the Bucks. What I said is totally valid.

[Texas Chuck]

It's a little amusing that a team who was just in the conference final is being described as having a terrible core.

Maybe they can hang an ECF runner up banner. Do you think it’s a championship core yes or no? Do you think the Knicks will be returning to the ECF? If we replayed the Celtics series do you think the Knicks still win? Do you think Brunson, OG, and Robinson will be championship level players in 5 years?

If the answer to all of these is no then don’t propose this sort of hell on the Bucks. What I said is totally valid.

I proposed nothing. But when you are a top 4 team, your core isn't trash. The truth is teh Knicks core is stronger than the Bucks core and thats with Giannis.

Because the Bucks 2nd best player is hurt with an injury and an age that makes a successful return very unlikely, then you are looking at guys like Portis and Kuzma as your next best players which is tragic, and finally they have very few assets to improve.

So yeah, I have the Knicks being much closer to contending than the Bucks.

[JayMKE]

It's a little amusing that a team who was just in the conference final is being described as having a terrible core.

Maybe they can hang an ECF runner up banner. Do you think it’s a championship core yes or no? Do you think the Knicks will be returning to the ECF? If we replayed the Celtics series do you think the Knicks still win? Do you think Brunson, OG, and Robinson will be championship level players in 5 years?

If the answer to all of these is no then don’t propose this sort of hell on the Bucks. What I said is totally valid.

I proposed nothing. But when you are a top 4 team, your core isn't trash. The truth is teh Knicks core is stronger than the Bucks core and thats with Giannis.

Because the Bucks 2nd best player is hurt with an injury and an age that makes a successful return very unlikely, then you are looking at guys like Portis and Kuzma as your next best players which is tragic, and finally they have very few assets to improve.

So yeah, I have the Knicks being much closer to contending than the Bucks.

I’m sure your esteem for them is appreciated lol

Why can’t you answer the simple yes or no questions? I do not care what your opinion of the Bucks nor is that relevant to the quality of the Knicks core. It’s a bad core and a bad trade, simple as that.

Mind you that the Knicks won a total more of… *checks notes* 3 games. So if the Bucks finished 3 games better your entire opinion would be different?

[taikibansei]

It's a little amusing that a team who was just in the conference final is being described as having a terrible core.

This 100%. Note that Knicks management (and most fans) see potential in this roster for additional growth as well--hence, the firing of Thibs (who was a good coach for us). I.e., delusional or not, we're not dumping this core for anything beyond a clear upgrade.

Yes, adding Giannis counts as a clear upgrade...if we're left with sufficient core to then compete for a championship. This means that we'd need to keep both Brunson and OG in any trade for Giannis. (However, KAT--who I don't want to trade--and Mikal--who I do--would be expendable.)

Bucks don't want KAT and Mikal only in return? That's perfectly fine--indeed, this kind of disconnect is part of why I don't think we'll make a trade this summer.

[Texas Chuck]

Maybe they can hang an ECF runner up banner. Do you think it’s a championship core yes or no? Do you think the Knicks will be returning to the ECF? If we replayed the Celtics series do you think the Knicks still win? Do you think Brunson, OG, and Robinson will be championship level players in 5 years?

If the answer to all of these is no then don’t propose this sort of hell on the Bucks. What I said is totally valid.

I proposed nothing. But when you are a top 4 team, your core isn't trash. The truth is teh Knicks core is stronger than the Bucks core and thats with Giannis.

Because the Bucks 2nd best player is hurt with an injury and an age that makes a successful return very unlikely, then you are looking at guys like Portis and Kuzma as your next best players which is tragic, and finally they have very few assets to improve.

So yeah, I have the Knicks being much closer to contending than the Bucks.

I’m sure your esteem for them is appreciated lol

Why can’t you answer the simple yes or no questions? I do not care what your opinion of the Bucks nor is that relevant to the quality of the Knicks core. It’s a bad core and a bad trade, simple as that.

Mind you that the Knicks won a total more of… *checks notes* 3 games. So if the Bucks finished 3 games better your entire opinion would be different?

I mean they also won 2 more playoff series, but yeah let's just ignore this because you aren't actually interested in the reality, just hearing how the Bucks are better.

But I answered it and will again -- a team in the Final Four is at least a fringe contender. They were beating Boston before Tatum got hurt. Do they win that series every time? Of course not. Do they lose every other time? Of course not.

But go on insulting other franchises and feeling cool I guess. Seems lame AF and pointless to me though.

[wemby]

Knicks can't kick Brunson to the curb after he signed as a free agent and took a paycut to extend, irrespective of how good it'd be for them in terms of value. Also, probably the Bucks should target younger assets rather than prime vets, but this can be salvaged by considering them just value and adding other teams which can provide assets back for those players. All in all, it's DOA because of the first sentence.

[JayMKE]

I proposed nothing. But when you are a top 4 team, your core isn't trash. The truth is teh Knicks core is stronger than the Bucks core and thats with Giannis.

Because the Bucks 2nd best player is hurt with an injury and an age that makes a successful return very unlikely, then you are looking at guys like Portis and Kuzma as your next best players which is tragic, and finally they have very few assets to improve.

So yeah, I have the Knicks being much closer to contending than the Bucks.

I’m sure your esteem for them is appreciated lol

Why can’t you answer the simple yes or no questions? I do not care what your opinion of the Bucks nor is that relevant to the quality of the Knicks core. It’s a bad core and a bad trade, simple as that.

Mind you that the Knicks won a total more of… *checks notes* 3 games. So if the Bucks finished 3 games better your entire opinion would be different?

I mean they also won 2 more playoff series, but yeah let's just ignore this because you aren't actually interested in the reality, just hearing how the Bucks are better.

But I answered it and will again -- a team in the Final Four is at least a fringe contender. They were beating Boston before Tatum got hurt. Do they win that series every time? Of course not. Do they lose every other time? Of course not.

But go on insulting other franchises and feeling cool I guess. Seems lame AF and pointless to me though.

It’s delusional to be insulted because a Bucks fan doesn’t want to trade Giannis for Brunson OG and Robinson. I think it’s a bad trade and that this team would go nowhere, simple as that. Do you think the Bucks would contend with this core? This is a simple yes or no question, not a what’s your opinion on the Bucks relative to the Knicks right now.

And the Bucks looked better against Indiana than the Knicks, it doesn’t really matter. I wish the Bucks were matched up with Thibs rather than Rick Carlisle. The relative weakness of the top of the east is exactly why the Bucks should hold on to Giannis.

[Texas Chuck]

It’s delusional to be insulted because a Bucks fan doesn’t want to trade Giannis for Brunson OG and Robinson.

I didn't say one word to you about that. Our discussion was about you saying their core wasn't good. I already know you hate every Giannis trade. Why would I ever be insulted that you hold the same opinion you always hold lol?

Bucks in 4

[Mavrelous]

Too much for Giannis.