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Playoff Upsets Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J* vs lilroddyb

Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2025 6:37 am
by durantbird
[url][/url]Here is a quick list of what you need in your writeup.

1. Specific years for each player on your team
2. Rotations and minutes for each player
3. Reasoning as to why your team will win and/or why people should vote for you.

Do not vote in this thread until both managers have submitted their writeups. Once the writeups are posted, I will add a poll, and the team with the most votes after 24 hours will advance. EACH MANAGER SHOULD ALSO VOTE FOR THEIR OWN TEAM IN THE POLL - IF YOU FAIL TO DO THIS, YOU ARE SIMPLY GIVING AWAY A VOTE. If the votes are tied, we will decide the matchup via AI vote.

You are not required to state or explain your vote, but you are free to comment in the thread if you want to.

If writeups aren't posted within 24 hours, we will vote solely based on the players they have drafted (and any rotations they have posted on their roster page).

Fadeaway_J wrote:

lilroddyb wrote:

Re: Playoff Upsets Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs lilroddyb

Posted: Fri Aug 1, 2025 11:38 am
by Fadeaway_J
Starters
C - Tim Duncan (2006-07)
Spoiler:
20.0 ppg, 10.6 rpg, 3.4 apg, 0.8 spg, 2.4 bpg, .546 FG%, .637 FT%, .579 TS%
- Led the NBA in DWS (6.8)
- NBA Champion
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team
- All-Defensive First Team

PF - Jaren Jackson Jr. (2022-23)
Spoiler:
18.6 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.0 apg, 1.0 spg, 3.0 bpg, .506 FG%, .355 3P%, .788 FT%, 100 3P (1.6 pg), .613 TS%
- Led the NBA in bpg, BLK% (9.6)
- Defensive Player of the Year
- NBA All-Star
- All-Defensive First Team

SF - Khris Middleton (2019-20)
Spoiler:
20.9 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 4.3 apg, 0.9 spg, 0.1 bpg, .497 FG%, .415 3P%, .916 FT%, 147 3P (2.4 pg), .619 TS%
- NBA All-Star

SG - Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (2022-23)
Spoiler:
10.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.5 spg, 0.5 bpg, .462 FG%, .423 3P%, .824 FT%, 135 3P (1.8 pg), .598 TS%
- NBA Champion

PG - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (2024-25)
Spoiler:
32.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 6.4 apg, 1.7 spg, 1.0 bpg, .519 FG%, .375 3P%, .898 FT%, 163 3P (2.1 pg), .637 TS%
- Led the NBA in ppg, DWS (4.8), WS (16.7), WS/48 (.309)
- NBA Champion
- NBA MVP
- NBA Finals MVP
- WCF MVP
- NBA All-Star
- All-NBA First Team

Bench
F - Haywood Highsmith (2023-24)
Spoiler:
6.1 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.1 apg, 0.8 spg, 0.5 bpg, .465 FG%, .396 3P%, .639 FT%, 76 3P (1.2 pg), .587 TS%

F/G - Mike Miller (2012-13)
Spoiler:
4.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.7 apg, 0.4 spg, 0.1 bpg, .433 FG%, .417 3P%, .727 FT%, 73 3P (1.1 pg), .596 TS%
- NBA Champion

G - George Hill (2019-20)
Spoiler:
9.4 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 3.1 apg, 0.8 spg, 0.1 bpg, .516 FG%, .460 3P%, .842 FT%, 81 3P (1.4 pg), .659 TS%
- Led the NBA in 3P%

Rotations
C - Duncan (38), Jackson (10)
PF - Jackson (26), Highsmith (22)
SF - Middleton (38), Miller (10)
SG - KCP (36), Hill (12)
PG - SGA (38), Hill (10)

FGA Per Player
Spoiler:
Tim Duncan - 14.1
Jaren Jackson Jr. - 13.0
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander - 21.8
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - 8.3
Khris Middleton - 15.3
Haywood Highsmith - 5.0
George Hill - 6.4
Mike Miller - 3.9

Total: 87.8/88.0


We've got arguably the best inside-outside combo in this game in SGA and Duncan. The offensive ecosystem around SGA is pretty much an upgraded version of the real-life Thunder. Duncan is obviously a much more capable individual scorer than Hartenstein, but he can also fulfill a lot of the same functions as a passing hub and pick-and-roll finisher. JJJ, like Chet, is a prototypical stretch 4 who can also attack off the dribble and finish efficiently at the rim. Middleton is a less athletic but better shooting iteration of J-Dub as a secondary wing scorer and playmaker. KCP is what Dort would be with a more reliable jumper and the ability to score on the move. In general, I would say our halfcourt offense has more consistent outside shooting as well as a proven fail-safe option (Duncan in the post) which makes us less susceptible to the droughts that plagued OKC in the playoffs.

Defensively, this is a more modern Twin Towers with Duncan and JJJ completely walling off the paint. Throw in Shai and our rim protection becomes pretty much God-tier. We have no weaknesses on the perimeter either, with KCP and Highsmith being the standouts.

Matchup
- Initial assignments will be KCP-Conley, SGA-Harden, Middleton-Kawhi, JJJ-Wemby, Duncan-Gasol. Highsmith will be our secondary option against Kawhi.
- The combination of Harden and the undersized Conley makes it tough for roddy to match up with SGA and Middleton. Presumably Kawhi would start on SGA, but one screen from Middleton (who is too good a shooter to leave open) allows us to target our preferred matchup instead. In any case, Harden or Conley guarding Middleton is also far from ideal.
- Wemby doesn't have the lower-body strength to establish good post position against JJJ, which we feel will lead him being over-reliant on shooting the pullup three. This is exacerbated by him playing exclusively at the 4. We much prefer dealing with him in this mode where he's operating as a glorified stretch 4 rather than causing havoc in the basket area (although we can handle that as well with Duncan and JJJ).
- Craig, GPII, and Chandler is a pretty rough trio of bench players from a spacing standpoint.

Good luck roddy.

Re: Playoff Upsets Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs lilroddyb

Posted: Sat Aug 2, 2025 1:29 pm
by lilroddyb
C: Marc Gasol 34 min / Tyson Chandler 14 min
Pf: Victor Wembanyama 38 min / Kawhi Leonard 10 min
Sf: Kawhi Leonard 28 min / Torrey Craig 10 min / Gary Payton jr 10 min
Sg: James Harden 36 min / Gary Payton jr 12 min
Pg: Mike Conley 38 min / Gary Payton jr 10 min


2017 Kawhi leonard 17.7
2013 Marc Gasol 10.9
2025 Victor Wembanyama 18.6
2017 Mike Conley 14.6
2012 James Harden 10.1
2020 Torrey Craig 4.6
2011 Tyson Chandler 5.5
2022 Gary Payton jr 4.8

tfga: 86.8

Defense

everyone is a good defender outside of Harden.

defensive matchup

Marc Gasol/Tyson on Duncan
wembanyama on Jaren Jackson
Kawhi on Shai
Harden on Middleton
Conley on KCP

overall

Fade build great team around Duncan and Shai but I think I got some advantage here and there. I think I got playmaking advantage with Mike Conley, Harden and Kawhi to lesser extend being better than Shai and friends. When Shai sits I think the playmaking will be tough for Fade.

Wemby is better than Jaren Jackson
Conley is better than KCP
and Harden is better than Middleton
imo

best of luck Fade

Re: Playoff Upsets Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs lilroddyb

Posted: Sat Aug 2, 2025 2:48 pm
by durantbird
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Voting is open. Team owners please vote for yourselves

Re: Playoff Upsets Draft - R1 - Fadeaway_J vs lilroddyb

Posted: Sun Aug 3, 2025 4:04 pm
by durantbird
ChatGPT vote Fadeaway_J - Fade advances

https://chatgpt.com/share/688f888e-00ac-800a-9a79-0527d0ef417a

This is a close matchup between two well-built, modern teams — both strong defensively and well-balanced on offense. Let’s break it down in a seven-game vacuum assuming full health and normal performance levels from each player.


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Top Talent Comparison

Matchup Edge

SGA vs Harden SGA — MVP, Finals MVP, elite efficiency, two-way threat
Duncan vs Gasol Duncan — still elite on both ends, more versatile scorer
JJJ vs Wemby Slight edge to Wemby, but JJJ holds his own
Middleton vs Kawhi Kawhi — especially 2017 Kawhi (MVP-level season)
KCP vs Conley Conley, though KCP’s shooting and defense still valuable



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Defense

Fadeaway_J has elite paint protection with 2007 Duncan and 2023 JJJ, plus strong perimeter defenders like KCP, SGA, and Middleton.
roddy counters with Wemby and Gasol for rim protection and Kawhi, Conley, GPII, and Craig as perimeter options, but Harden is a weak link that Fade can exploit.

Key defensive mismatch:

Harden guarding Middleton is a clear liability — Middleton’s size and off-ball shooting will punish soft contests.

Kawhi on SGA is logical, but Fade can force switches or use Middleton screens to get SGA free.



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Offensive Execution

Fadeaway_J’s Offense:

Built like a souped-up OKC team with Duncan in the Chet/Hartenstein role but far more dominant.

SGA is at his absolute peak — 32.7 ppg on .637 TS% with elite clutch and playmaking.

Middleton, KCP, JJJ all stretch the floor, and Duncan gives a post scoring and passing hub.

Bench has elite spacing with Hill (league-leading 3P%) and Miller.


roddy’s Offense:

Strong playmaking core: Conley, Harden, and Kawhi — all capable pick-and-roll and isolation creators.

Wemby adds spacing and shot creation from the 4, though he’s used more as a stretch than a post threat.

Bench is weak offensively: GPII, Craig, Chandler offer very little spacing or scoring.



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X-Factors and Fit

SGA-Duncan synergy: SGA’s downhill game, midrange, and pick-and-roll mastery pair perfectly with Duncan.

Wemby at PF limits his interior impact somewhat (as Fade correctly points out).

roddy lacks a true go-to scorer who is both efficient and dominant in this peak year — Harden and Kawhi aren’t at their peak seasons (2012 Harden and 2017 Kawhi are close but not at their best playoff form).

roddy’s bench limits flexibility in rotations.



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Verdict: Fadeaway_J wins in 6 or 7 games

Why:

SGA is playing like the best player in the world in this version.

Duncan is the most stable anchor in this series on both ends.

The spacing, depth, and defensive balance are better on Fadeaway_J’s side.

roddy's playmaking trio is solid, but his offensive ceiling suffers with spacing issues and Harden’s defense being a consistent liability.


Winner: Fadeaway_J in 7 games
But it’s close — roddy has the tools to take a few games, especially if Kawhi and Harden get hot.