Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank

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Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#1 » by peZt » Tue Nov 11, 2025 5:33 pm

They're not gonna win this year, if they even make the playoffs. They dont have any first round picks in 27-30. So while AD and Kyrie are gonna get worse and older year by year, their chances of winning anything go down and down but at the same time they don't have anything to look forward to. Basically the next half decade is lost. They have Flagg, no picks and a bunch of aging injury prone washed stars.

They just need to fully embrace the tank now. They are still in a somewhat salvagable position. They have one of the best prospects of the last decade in Flagg. If they tank now, they can pair him up with a top 5 pick in one of the best draft classes since 2003. Darryn Peterson/Aj Dybantsa - Flagg - Lively would instantly be maybe the best young trio in the league
And maybe they can get back a couple of frp's for the next few years by trading AD and Kyrie and maybe even another young piece in return

2 years from now the options are:

1) Have Flagg and no first round picks and a 35 year old AD and Kyrie and 0 chance at winning anything
Or
2) Have Flagg and Darryn Peterson/AJ Dybantsa/Cam Boozer, a couple first round picks and a good future

Nico's ego would've been too big to go for #2 after making a "win now trade". But they are definitely not winning with this injury prone and old core and just need to prepare for the future now
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#2 » by The Servant » Tue Nov 11, 2025 5:47 pm

I agree, the two timelines dont fit. AD for picks, Kyrie for a prospect + pick and reboot itm
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#3 » by TheGeneral99 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 5:48 pm

This is the obvious move once Kyrie got hurt.

Complete rebuild, take the pressure away from Flagg and reset.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#4 » by Castle Black » Tue Nov 11, 2025 5:51 pm

Agreed, especially with the upcoming stacked 2026 draft class. They're clearly not competing for a Championship this year. Worst thing they can do is win a bunch of meaningless games and finish just under .500 and miss out on the elite talent in this draft. The window closed the minute they traded Luka. It's over. Trade AD and Kyrie, load up on draft capital, and rebuild around Flagg. This is the way.
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Post#5 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:00 pm

They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#6 » by Black Jack » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:04 pm

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.


Not really. They need to just plan around Flagg's development path so they can surround him with a good team once he's ready to be an all star level player.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#7 » by peZt » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:04 pm

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.


If they trade AD and Kyrie, they will get frp OR get young pieces.

If they tank now and trade AD and Kyrie they will have a top 5 pick in this years stacked draft, Flagg, Lively AND either frp's from the trade or other young talents from the trade. Thats a good basis to become good in the next 5 years
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#8 » by Optms » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:05 pm

Lively for Rui checks out. Lakers will toss in some 2nds as well so the Mavs can stockpile picks. Win win for both sides if this is the route Mavs are choosing to go. Time to embrace the tank.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#9 » by The High Cyde » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:06 pm

I would keep AD, you need a vet star who’s been to the top to help keep standards at a higher level as it would def be lower if the roster is completely mid to low tier. I’d see what I could get for Irving but I doubt much.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#10 » by badpotato » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:06 pm

Optms wrote:Lively for Rui checks out. Lakers will toss in some 2nds as well so the Mavs can stockpile picks. Win win for both sides if this is the route Mavs are choosing to go. Time to embrace the tank.


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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#11 » by Optms » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:08 pm

badpotato wrote:
Optms wrote:Lively for Rui checks out. Lakers will toss in some 2nds as well so the Mavs can stockpile picks. Win win for both sides if this is the route Mavs are choosing to go. Time to embrace the tank.


reported for ragebaiting Mavs fanbase, lol.


I'm not the one who started this thread. :lol:
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#12 » by MrGoat » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:09 pm

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.

It's actually top 2 protected. But they would need to be given assurance by Adam Silver that it would land in the top 2.

Even so, it may just be a sunk cost that greatly benefits the Hornets and you just rebuild with the picks you get in the fire sale and make sure the 2026 pick is high
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#13 » by badpotato » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:09 pm

Optms wrote:
badpotato wrote:
Optms wrote:Lively for Rui checks out. Lakers will toss in some 2nds as well so the Mavs can stockpile picks. Win win for both sides if this is the route Mavs are choosing to go. Time to embrace the tank.


reported for ragebaiting Mavs fanbase, lol.


I'm not the one who started this thread. :lol:


You're recommending the Mavs relinquish a player they actually don’t need to, though(and for very poor compensation - they actually went into this river before). ;)
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#14 » by M2J » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:14 pm

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:They don't have their pick next year. So if they trade AD and Kyrie, they need to be good next season.



Saw that. The move should be to rehabilitate Davis's value with a good stretch this season... Easy to do IMO within a few weeks.

Tank it out this year. Trade Gafford, trade PJ MAYBE TRADE DLO and Klay if possible. I will give Carrie all the time he would need.... Maybe bring him back in March to see if he can play well and if he can't be traded for exactly what they want.... Play it out for '27 with Kyrie and young talent...and see if they can make the playoffs. Trade him at some point

That Nico guy already have them a nice young core, so even if they don't get a pick in 27.... You still get to see you Cooper develop with Lively and Christie...2026 pick.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#15 » by JHFVF07 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:16 pm

So, it would show a bad taste if I offer Reaves to get AD back?

On a more serious note, I continue to think AD to Spurs make a LOT of sense, they are ready to compete now, have some young pieces and a ton of picks.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#16 » by wco81 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:22 pm

You would think the Mavs would realize that the last thing they need to do is to send more talent to the Lakers, at least so soon after giving them Luka.

But maybe Silver wants to troll every NBA fan who isn't a Lakers fan -- "yeah I'm rigging it for them, WTF are you going to do about it?"

Blatant corruption seems to be the in thing now, as people take their cue from our fearless leader.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#17 » by CobraCommander » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:22 pm

They should trade Kyrie and AD to the lakers and the lakers should hire Nico as head of scouting.

Kyrie, Luka, LeBron, AR and AD… with Ayton playing significant games cause always AD hurt-

Kyle and Luka already have chemistry-

When they go big it’s AR,Lebron, Luka, Ayton and AD !

When they go small it’s Kyrie on the floor and AD at center!

The Lakers Chant? HIRE Nico. Cause no one has done more for the Lakers

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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#18 » by maverick_41 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:23 pm

Free Klay.
Show some mercy.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#19 » by akula1488 » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:28 pm

Lakers offer
Lebron, his son, Gabe, Vando, Maxi, Knect + all the picks they can trade for AD and Kyrie.
Mavs get salary relief (Lebron/Maxi/Gabe expiring, Vando is a cheap contract) and future draft assets.

Just need to make play-in and a healthy Ayton + AD + Luka + Kyrie + AR, with Smart/Rui/LaRavia is a killer 8 man rotation.
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Re: Mavs need to cut losses, trade AD and Kyrie and embrace the tank 

Post#20 » by Liam_Gallagher » Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:30 pm

maverick_41 wrote:Free Klay.
Show some mercy.


Free Klay? Let's start by freeing his jumper first.
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