Chet Holmgren the new Draymond Green
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Chet Holmgren the new Draymond Green
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Chet Holmgren the new Draymond Green
Chet has quickly turned into the most overrated player in the league because he is a good player on the best team in the league. He can't score and really is at his best as a 3rd or 4th option in any game that actually matters. He is going to win a ton of accolades riding the SGA and Thunder coattail the next few years but he wouldn't even be an allstar on Blazers or Hornets.
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He's insanely skinny and gets bodied against pretty much anyone over 6'8''. When you're that thin you need be at least 7'3'' like Wemby. He needs to musclemax this summer.
7'1'' 208 lbs is nasty work.
7'1'' 208 lbs is nasty work.
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LOL...
Chet had +20 on/off against the Mavs in 24, and the Mavs basically won when he went to the bench, he is always the highest net rating starter and on/off on the team in their 3 years run, and among the on/off leaders in general.
He is the 2nd best defensive anchor in the league with inconsistent offensive game, still much better offensively than Gobert.
P.S. Draymong is pribabely the most impactful defender of this generation so in a way, he is the new Draymond.
Chet had +20 on/off against the Mavs in 24, and the Mavs basically won when he went to the bench, he is always the highest net rating starter and on/off on the team in their 3 years run, and among the on/off leaders in general.
He is the 2nd best defensive anchor in the league with inconsistent offensive game, still much better offensively than Gobert.
P.S. Draymong is pribabely the most impactful defender of this generation so in a way, he is the new Draymond.
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Ah yes, a Chet can't stop Wemby so must be "the most overrated player in the league" overreaction thread!
If that's the barometer, then everyone in this league is "the most overrated"...!
Chet is an excellent defender who can protect the rim, guard adequately to the perimeter, rebound, and give you some scoring (including good 3-point shooting). Outside of maybe 3-4 teams, everybody else would love to have this guy as their 3rd or 4th option on offense.
Chet is an excellent defender who can protect the rim, guard adequately to the perimeter, rebound, and give you some scoring (including good 3-point shooting). Outside of maybe 3-4 teams, everybody else would love to have this guy as their 3rd or 4th option on offense.
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This is simultaneously disrespectful to Chet AND Draymond 
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Chet has more offensive potential than Green ever had, but given his role it's unlikely he'll ever realize it. Kudos to him for not complaining about touches though...
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taikibansei wrote:Ah yes, a Chet can't stop Wemby so must be "the most overrated player in the league" overreaction thread!If that's the barometer, then everyone in this league is "the most overrated"...!
Chet is an excellent defender who can protect the rim, guard adequately to the perimeter, rebound, and give you some scoring (including good 3-point shooting). Outside of maybe 3-4 teams, everybody else would love to have this guy as their 3rd or 4th option on offense.
He also can't score. OKC is without JDub and Chet is averaging a whooping 10 ppg this series.
He is a role player but since he is on a great team we are tossing him into the top 15 convo. It is the same thing we did with Klay and Draymond during the amazing Warriors run.
Klay wouldn't of even been an allstar on most teams, same with Draymond but since they were winning we just handed out accolades.
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I just can't personally have that high of a grade on a guy that is going to shoot 8 shots in the WCF while also getting bodied by the other teams best player. He is a good defender but Caruso, Dort, JDub, SGA, Cason playing awesome defense around him makes his job at the rim wayyyy easier than him actually having to anchor a defense by himself.
Gobert and Wemby are the defense, Chet is just a small piece.
Gobert and Wemby are the defense, Chet is just a small piece.
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I'm not totally there with JMac, but I find it funny when people diss Paolo Banchero in favor of Holmgren. Chet absolutely is not someone who could be a franchise player. For all his defensive prowess, if he was, your best player, you would probably be in the lottery for years, 'til you got someone better than him.
He is closer to an elite role player than an actual star who can carry a team.
He is closer to an elite role player than an actual star who can carry a team.
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I would rather have Mobley, Bam and Gobert for a playoff series.
Also would rather have KAT or Siakam too.
Chet has had the ball at 15 feet vs Harper, Castle, Champaigne multiple times this series with the shot clock winding down and I have yet to see him doing anything productive with the ball.
Also would rather have KAT or Siakam too.
Chet has had the ball at 15 feet vs Harper, Castle, Champaigne multiple times this series with the shot clock winding down and I have yet to see him doing anything productive with the ball.
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He was averaging 19/9 on 60/39/89 splits before this series. It's just the Wemby effect
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Chuck Everett wrote:I'm not totally there with JMac, but I find it funny when people diss Paolo Banchero in favor of Holmgren. Chet absolutely is not someone who could be a franchise player. For all his defensive prowess, if he was, your beat player, you would probably be in the lottery for years, 'til you got someone better than him.
He is closer to an elite role player than an actual star who can carry a team.
I doubt this. Gobert is way worse than Chet as a play maker and finisher and yet turned 2 franchises into borderline title contenders. I would also argue that Gobert was the best player in UTA during his era, not Spida.
Chet can definitely be a franchise player. Moreso than Paolo who has trouble with consistency
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Marvin Martian wrote:Chuck Everett wrote:I'm not totally there with JMac, but I find it funny when people diss Paolo Banchero in favor of Holmgren. Chet absolutely is not someone who could be a franchise player. For all his defensive prowess, if he was, your beat player, you would probably be in the lottery for years, 'til you got someone better than him.
He is closer to an elite role player than an actual star who can carry a team.
I doubt this. Gobert is way worse than Chet as a play maker and finisher and yet turned 2 franchises into borderline title contenders. I would also argue that Gobert was the best player in UTA during his era, not Spida.
Chet can definitely be a franchise player. Moreso than Paolo who has trouble with consistency
Yeah, I'm not using Gobert as a barometer for Chet. First, Gobert is an Ironman. And if you're saying that Chet could do the same thing as Gobert anchoring an entire defense you really have no proof of that, like at all. In OKC, he plays with 6-7 really good-to-elite defenders.
Chet would be expected to carry the load as a franchise player on both ends of the floor. Not just be a Gobert. Can Chet play 70 plus games, averaging 25 and lead his team to the playoffs? And still be efficient? I remain skeptical.
Edit: I see Chet like a skinny version of Aaron Gordon. Totally miscast as someone you build a franchise around.
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Chet unlike Draymond is Shai/Jalen Williams insurance. When those guys slow down or truly impact Presti's roster making it will be up to him to determine where OKC is. I believe in him much unlike the board because he has tools and he is not a headcase like some of the more recent top picks.
He's not supposed to be the next all-time great, he's supposed to be the future of OKC.
He's not supposed to be the next all-time great, he's supposed to be the future of OKC.
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a "failure" for some or a guy that presti seems worth to give 41 million dollars next season.wonder who will get it right...
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So Shai is an overrated flopper, and Chet is an overrated, injury-prone role player, and JDub is an overrated, injury-prone role player...
How exactly is this team winning so many games?
How exactly is this team winning so many games?
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Chet is a quality player, overmatched by a better one that in addition really cares about this matchup - it happens.
He could put some work into his release speed though- dude's jumpshot looks like he's loading a trebuchet.
He could put some work into his release speed though- dude's jumpshot looks like he's loading a trebuchet.
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Marvin Martian wrote:Chuck Everett wrote:I'm not totally there with JMac, but I find it funny when people diss Paolo Banchero in favor of Holmgren. Chet absolutely is not someone who could be a franchise player. For all his defensive prowess, if he was, your beat player, you would probably be in the lottery for years, 'til you got someone better than him.
He is closer to an elite role player than an actual star who can carry a team.
I doubt this. Gobert is way worse than Chet as a play maker and finisher and yet turned 2 franchises into borderline title contenders. I would also argue that Gobert was the best player in UTA during his era, not Spida.
Chet can definitely be a franchise player. Moreso than Paolo who has trouble with consistency
I don’t think Chet would hold up without this all time defensive talent around him. Gobert imo is a better defender.
On offense, you can’t rely on Chet and this is without anyone EVER game planning for him on offense. Lot of this stuff is laziness on Chet’s end. He never wanted to be a great offensive player, bc if he did he’d speed up his jump shot. Somewhere he decided that he didn’t need to improve on obvious things and that it was enough to just be tall on offense.
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JMAC3 wrote:Chet has quickly turned into the most overrated player in the league because he is a good player on the best team in the league. He can't score and really is at his best as a 3rd or 4th option in any game that actually matters. He is going to win a ton of accolades riding the SGA and Thunder coattail the next few years but he wouldn't even be an allstar on Blazers or Hornets.
This is an opinion most, if not just about all people have on Chet, so how can he be overrated?
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DaPessimist wrote:So Shai is an overrated flopper, and Chet is an overrated, injury-prone role player, and JDub is an overrated, injury-prone role player...
How exactly is this team winning so many games?
By always having three extra guys on the court.
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