CHI-MEM-MIL

ecuhus1981 · Post #1 » by **ecuhus1981** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:26 pm

Trade ID #4393661

Chicago Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Juan Carlos Navarro, Pau Gasol, Dan Gadzuric, Michael Redd
Outgoing Players: Luol Deng, Ben Gordon, Joe Smith, Ben Wallace
CHI grows up in order to compete now.
Hinrich, Redd, Nocioni, Gasol, Gadzuric
Duhon, Navarro, Sefolosha, Thomas, Noah

Memphis Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Ben Gordon, Ben Wallace, Michael Ruffin, Charlie Villanueva
Outgoing Players: Juan Carlos Navarro, Damon Stoudamire, Mike Miller, Pau Gasol
MEM injects youth into their roster, and reunites the Huskies.
Conley, Gordon, Gay, Villanueva, Wallace
Lowry, Jacobsen, Warrick, Swift, Milicic

Milwaukee Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Luol Deng, Joe Smith, Damon Stoudamire, Mike Miller
Outgoing Players: Michael Ruffin, Charlie Villanueva, Dan Gadzuric, Michael Redd
MIL hands its future into the hands of their youthful core.
Williams, Miller, Deng, Jianlian, Bogut
Stoudamire, Simmons, Mason, Smith, Voskuhl

trwi7 · Post #2 » by **trwi7** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:30 pm

Bucks gladly accept.

shakeandbake · Post #3 » by **shakeandbake** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:32 pm

Don't like it from Memphis' point of view. If Memphis moves Gasol and Miller, it won't be to take on a contract like Wallace who is getting older. I can see these three temas working something out though.

ecuhus1981 · Post #4 » by **ecuhus1981** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:38 pm

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Well, I certainly understand your POV. Maybe unloading Cardinal onto Milwaulkee (who wins in this trade, IMO) for one of the minimum contracts would help enough? In any case, the reason I had Wallace going to MEM was that I thought you guys were looking for a cleanup guy. Big Ben is a CG Extrordinaire!

Cliff Levingston · Post #5 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 9:49 pm

Cliff Levingston likes it for the Bulls, though there's no chance Gadzuric starts over Noah at center (with a competent coach at least). He'd be 3rd on the center depth chart behind Noah and Gray.

treis · Post #6 » by **treis** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:03 pm

Big pass for the Bulls. If we are going to sacrifice youth for winning now it's going to be Tyrus and Noah that go.

skones · Post #7 » by **skones** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:13 pm

treis wrote:Big pass for the Bulls. If we are going to sacrifice youth for winning now it's going to be Tyrus and Noah that go.

Unfortunately I don't see either of those guys bringing in a lot of help for you in terms of winning now.

shakeandbake · Post #8 » by **shakeandbake** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:14 pm

skones wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Unfortunately I don't see either of those guys bringing in a lot of help for you in terms of winning now.

Agreed.

Cliff Levingston · Post #9 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:18 pm

treis wrote:Big pass for the Bulls. If we are going to sacrifice youth for winning now it's going to be Tyrus and Noah that go.

C'mon. We basically upgrade Gordon to Redd and Deng to Gasol for the price of Ben Wallace (who we want to get rid of anyway) and Joe Smith (not a big loss when Gasol will be taking over his position). Not only that, but add in a nice bench player in Navarro. That's a no brainer treis. Having Gasol and Redd to play off off will only help the young guys succeed.

The rotation would be something like this:

1. Hinrich, Navarro, Duhon
2. Redd, Navarro, Sefolosha
3. Deng, Sefolosha, Thomas
4. Gasol, Thomas
5. Noah, Gasol, Gray, Gadzuric

treis · Post #10 » by **treis** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 10:38 pm

I see a rotation that is older, more expensive, and not that much better.

Moon · Post #11 » by **Moon** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:20 pm

Sorry Cliff but Deng is gone in this scenario for the Bulls...You can't trade Deng and keep him in the rotation.

BrewCityBBQ · Post #12 » by **BrewCityBBQ** » Mon Jan 7, 2008 11:40 pm

From a Bucks POV I'm all over this one.

ecuhus1981 · Post #13 » by **ecuhus1981** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 1:08 am

Well, it seems we have two fairly willing parties. How about it, Grizzlies fans?

Simulack · Post #14 » by **Simulack** » Tue Jan 8, 2008 2:51 am

This trade helps the Bucks even more than a lot of the homer trades on our own board.

Grizzlies get totally **** IMO. Miller=Gordon. If anything, Miller is a better all-around player and signed to a reasonable contract. He's also got legit SG size and can even play SF. Why trade him for an undersized whose contract status in the air and isn't noticeably better as a player?

That leaves Gasol for Wallace, CV and Ruffin. I'd vomit if I were a Grizzlies fan.