Hou - Sac

Moderators: BullyKing, Andre Roberstan, loserX, Trader_Joe, Mamba4Goat, pacers33granger, MoneyTalks41890, HartfordWhalers, Texas Chuck

supertruck97
Veteran
Posts: 2,564
And1: 237
Joined: Jan 20, 2005

Hou - Sac 

Post#1 » by supertruck97 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:10 am

Hou Gives:

Battier + M. James + Kirk Snyder

Sac Gives:

Artest + SAR

Why for Houston: Get a legit 3rd option. This deal is contingent on Artest signing an extension.

Alston/TMac/Artest/Hayes/Yao

Why for Sac: Turns SAR into Snyders expiring. Battier is close to Artest on the defensive side, and is still young enough to be a stabilizing voice for their young transition.
Flash is the Future
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,939
And1: 3
Joined: Aug 26, 2006

 

Post#2 » by Flash is the Future » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:17 am

What are they going to do with Mike James?
Image
KF10
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 25,434
And1: 5,537
Joined: Jul 28, 2006
 

 

Post#3 » by KF10 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:17 am

Sacramento declines for past reasons stated concerning about this deal...
SacKingZZZ
RealGM
Posts: 24,085
And1: 1,084
Joined: Feb 19, 2005
Location: "Look at me, Dave, look. Come and touch it, Dave."

Re: Hou - Sac 

Post#4 » by SacKingZZZ » Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:42 am

supertruck97 wrote:Hou Gives:

Battier + M. James + Kirk Snyder

Sac Gives:

Artest + SAR

Why for Houston: Get a legit 3rd option. This deal is contingent on Artest signing an extension.

Alston/TMac/Artest/Hayes/Yao

Why for Sac: Turns SAR into Snyders expiring. Battier is close to Artest on the defensive side, and is still young enough to be a stabilizing voice for their young transition.


But is just so far apart in every other single aspect of the game it just isn't something Sac should even remotely consider. I do like Battier though.
User avatar
Crimson King
Pro Prospect
Posts: 962
And1: 34
Joined: Apr 26, 2007

Re: Hou - Sac 

Post#5 » by Crimson King » Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:57 am

supertruck97 wrote:Hou Gives:

Why for Sac: Turns SAR into Snyders expiring. Battier is close to Artest on the defensive side, and is still young enough to be a stabilizing voice for their young transition.


No, turns SAR into Mike James, who has the same contract than SAR.

And then, turns Artest into Battier+Snyder.

Clearly no from the Kings.
Smills91
Banned User
Posts: 23,364
And1: 2
Joined: Jun 05, 2005
Location: Ronald Reagan is my political hero.

 

Post#6 » by Smills91 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:06 pm

Change SAR to Kenny Thomas and alter Snyder to Aaron Brooks and you'd begin to get the Kings attention. James does nothing but fill salary, so he can be altered if you like. I'd personally prefer exprings, but whatever...so...

Artest
Thomas

for

Battier
James
Brooks
User avatar
DBurks2818
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,075
And1: 2,376
Joined: Mar 16, 2006
Location: Where Amazing Happened.
 

 

Post#7 » by DBurks2818 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:23 pm

Bibby's perceived value here always amazes me. I'm interested to see what he looks like when he gets back, because I doubt he'll worth anywhere near what the Kings are looking for in just a month back from injury. He probably stays a King unless Petrie comes down from these demands.

I can see Artest getting traded though. Kings have a lot of talent at the swing positions. I don't know if he's worth quite this much though, on an expiring contract where there's no way to completely guarantee he'll re-sign.
KF10
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 25,434
And1: 5,537
Joined: Jul 28, 2006
 

 

Post#8 » by KF10 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:26 pm

DBurks2818 wrote:Bibby's perceived value here always amazes me. I'm interested to see what he looks like when he gets back, because I doubt he'll worth anywhere near what the Kings are looking for in just a month back from injury. He probably stays a King unless Petrie comes down from these demands.


Umm, this deal is about Artest NOT Bibby...
User avatar
Bac2Basics
RealGM
Posts: 13,588
And1: 3
Joined: Mar 03, 2001
Location: "Are you like a crazy person? I'm quite sure they will say so."
   

 

Post#9 » by Bac2Basics » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:26 pm

DBurks2818 wrote:Bibby's perceived value here always amazes me. I'm interested to see what he looks like when he gets back, because I doubt he'll worth anywhere near what the Kings are looking for in just a month back from injury. He probably stays a King unless Petrie comes down from these demands.


Which is exactly why most Kings fans have said we are perfectly content to wait until Bibby can come back and is able to show exactly how valuable he is.

Most Kings fans were saying the same thing about Brad Miller, and if you've seen his stats for the season, you'd know we were right about Brad, and we will be right about Mike.
User avatar
DBurks2818
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,075
And1: 2,376
Joined: Mar 16, 2006
Location: Where Amazing Happened.
 

 

Post#10 » by DBurks2818 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:33 pm

kingsfan10 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Umm, this deal is about Artest NOT Bibby...


Yeah, I had already edited it. I thought this was that other topic trading both of them. Hard to keep track of all these SAC trades, you know ;)
KF10
Forum Mod - Kings
Forum Mod - Kings
Posts: 25,434
And1: 5,537
Joined: Jul 28, 2006
 

 

Post#11 » by KF10 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:35 pm

DBurks2818 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Yeah, I had already edited it. I thought this was that other topic trading both of them. Hard to keep track of all these SAC trades, you know ;)


Yeah, I just noticed that. :D
User avatar
DBurks2818
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,075
And1: 2,376
Joined: Mar 16, 2006
Location: Where Amazing Happened.
 

 

Post#12 » by DBurks2818 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:36 pm

Bac2Basics wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Which is exactly why most Kings fans have said we are perfectly content to wait until Bibby can come back and is able to show exactly how valuable he is.

Most Kings fans were saying the same thing about Brad Miller, and if you've seen his stats for the season, you'd know we were right about Brad, and we will be right about Mike.


Personally, I think you just got lucky with predicting Miller to come back strong. Bibby coming back strong is a lot more likely.
SacKingZZZ
RealGM
Posts: 24,085
And1: 1,084
Joined: Feb 19, 2005
Location: "Look at me, Dave, look. Come and touch it, Dave."

 

Post#13 » by SacKingZZZ » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:02 am

DBurks2818 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Personally, I think you just got lucky with predicting Miller to come back strong. Bibby coming back strong is a lot more likely.


Nah, Miller got in tremendous shape, better than I have ever seen him to be honest and Theus is using him much better as well. Losing 25 pounds and working out like a madman isn't luck at all.

Miller deserves all the credit for his play and he derserves to reap the rewards.
Smills91
Banned User
Posts: 23,364
And1: 2
Joined: Jun 05, 2005
Location: Ronald Reagan is my political hero.

 

Post#14 » by Smills91 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:16 am

DBurks2818 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Personally, I think you just got lucky with predicting Miller to come back strong. Bibby coming back strong is a lot more likely.


Naw it wasn't that difficult...we went from Musselman to ....well...anything was an improvement in the coaching ranks at that point. Theus has been amazing so far as a rookie coach.

Return to Trades and Transactions