ESPN's Chris Sheridan Trade Article

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #1 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:01 pm

A couple of Bulls mentions

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/ ... cts-080117

On Kobe:

Kobe Bryant, Lakers
If he hadn't vetoed every trade proposal that would have sent Luol Deng to the Lakers, he'd already be playing in Chicago -- and Scott Skiles would probably still have a job.

On Pau Gasol:

Pau Gasol, Grizzlies
When the Bulls wanted him last year, their refusal to include Luol Deng killed the deal. If that line of thinking has changed in Chicago, the Bulls can get him with some combination of Deng, Tyrus Thomas and/or Joakim Noah (and P.J. Brown in a sign-and-trade to make the salaries match).

On Ben Wallace:

Ben Wallace, Bulls
We could put anybody from the Bulls on this list, but Big Ben is the only one of them making beaucoup bucks. Also, his salary drops from $15.5M this year to $14.5M and then $14M over the next two seasons.

Again, just a thought: But wouldn't Wallace for Zach Randolph make sense for two teams that are more or less due to make another deal with each other?

Post #2 » by **Rerisen** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:16 pm

Gasol for Deng AND Tryus AND or Noah????

Is he sure they don't want Gordon still to? :noway:

Post #3 » by **kulaz3000** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:16 pm

Whoever continues to use a P.J Brown sign and trade as an option loses my respect then and there. Its just idiotic to continue to harp on that option as that time has past and gone a very long time ago, if that option was even available to begin with. Not saying it wasn't do-able, but ... lets not get into it.

As for the Wallace for Zach trade idea, thats another reason why you can stick his ideas up his own special place where the sun don't shine.

These people that get paid for these ludicris and uncreative ideas is just laughable. They just rehash the same things, say the obvious and are just plain uncreative. Disgraceful.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #4 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:20 pm

kulaz3000 wrote:Whoever continues to use a P.J Brown sign and trade as an option loses my respect then and there. Its just idiotic to continue to harp on that option as that time has past and gone a very long time ago, if that option was even available to begin with. Not saying it wasn't do-able, but ... lets not get into it.

As I understand - that is still very much an option. You don't think PJ would take a free pay-day?

Post #5 » by **Rerisen** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:22 pm

I think PJ has been mentioned as a player the Lakers might look at with Bynum out. Odd twist since we were hoping to send him there as part of the sign and trade that never materialized for Kobe.

Red Larrivee · Post #6 » by **Red Larrivee** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:25 pm

Chris Sheridan wrote:The NBA executives we've spoken to are nearly unanimous in their belief that Pau Gasol of the Memphis Grizzlies is the most likely high-profile player to be dealt before next month's NBA trading deadline.

If Gasol gets traded, it better be to Chicago. It better be.

kyrv · Post #7 » by **kyrv** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:25 pm

kulaz3000 wrote:Whoever continues to use a P.J Brown sign and trade as an option loses my respect then and there. Its just idiotic to continue to harp on that option as that time has past and gone a very long time ago, if that option was even available to begin with. Not saying it wasn't do-able, but ... lets not get into it.

As for the Wallace for Zach trade idea, thats another reason why you can stick his ideas up his own special place where the sun don't shine.

These people that get paid for these ludicris and uncreative ideas is just laughable. They just rehash the same things, say the obvious and are just plain uncreative. Disgraceful.

Yep. I really hope this was not insider stuff, that is embarrassing.

And rather than saying "it's about time for the Knicks and Bulls to make another trade" he might note, depending on the real AD story, these two teams perhaps won't be making any deals, any time soon. But hey, what he said was 'cute'.

Dieselbound&Down · Post #8 » by **Dieselbound&Down** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:26 pm

He just posted the part about Kobe so his boy Bucher has a little more credibility the next time he makes a proclamation like "kobe will never wear a Lakers jersey again"

Jordan45822 · Post #9 » by **Jordan45822** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:13 am

Sheridan is nuts if he thinks Paxson will trade Deng for Gasol let alone Deng, Thomas, AND Noah.

As for Wallace for Zach I would do it but Paxson won't.

Post #10 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:19 am

Would you guys trade Deng, Tyrus, Duhon, and VK for Gasol and Navarro?

I think thats just a bit too much for us to give up. If we were getting back Mike Miller instead of Navarro, I'd do it.

Post #11 » by **suckfish** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:22 am

Well, I wouldn't swap Deng straight up for Gasol, and I wouldn't trade Tyrus, VK and Duhon for Navarro.

So yes, I feel it's far to much, as IMO Deng is far to young and valuable to be given up for a player such as Gasol.

VinTheBarber · Post #12 » by **VinTheBarber** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:22 am

id replace tyrus with noah in the deal and yea id like miller also

NLK · Post #13 » by **NLK** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:37 am

Chris Sheridan, I believe is Pro-Knicks. I bet he's still reeling after being dominated in the 90's by our Organization. That Memphis deal is hot garbage and he knows it.

babythug23 · Post #14 » by **babythug23** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:46 am

Deng is the 2nd youngest player on the team at 22. You don't trade someone that young that is good just to make a trade.

mr.ankle · Post #15 » by **mr.ankle** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:44 am

babythug23 wrote:Deng is the 2nd youngest player on the team at 22. You don't trade someone that young that is good just to make a trade.

Deng has peeked . I do not see a big difference between last year and this year

babythug23 · Post #16 » by **babythug23** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:48 am

mr.ankle wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Deng has peeked . I do not see a big difference between last year and this year

To be fair he has been hurt off and on this year. I don't belive he has peeked. He prolly is not a superstar but at 22 i don't see how you can say that.

Wingy · Post #17 » by **Wingy** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:54 am

I think ankle was joking. The longer this "trade" doesn't happen...the worse it looks. Pau ain't gettin' any younger and he's not gonna put us over the top. Soon Lu will be clearly outproducing him all by himself...and then to throw in an athletic, talented and young big like TT or Noah is just dumb. Replace Deng with Noc and one of those youngsters...then let's make a deal.

mr.ankle · Post #18 » by **mr.ankle** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:12 am

Wingy wrote:I think ankle was joking. The longer this "trade" doesn't happen...the worse it looks. Pau ain't gettin' any younger and he's not gonna put us over the top. Soon Lu will be clearly outproducing him all by himself...and then to throw in an athletic, talented and young big like TT or Noah is just dumb. Replace Deng with Noc and one of those youngsters...then let's make a deal.

I was not joking . This was the year he was suppose to really breakout and become all star this year . I remember a lot of analyst predicted he would play behind Lebron James in the all star game . His play this year has been a little worse than last year . And he stills has along ways to go become a future allstar . I still do not believe anybody on this team is better than Pau

Post #19 » by **DuckIII** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:19 am

Red Larrivee wrote:If Gasol gets traded, it better be to Chicago. It better be.

Unless its to a team that has completely different pieces that Memphis might want more than Chicago's pieces, right?

derf · Post #20 » by **derf** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:23 am

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

As I understand - that is still very much an option. You don't think PJ would take a free pay-day?

I don't think the Bulls would pay the Lux tax. Adding in a PJ pay day would up the Bulls cap number that is why PJ was never in play.