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Choosing our "style" for the future

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Choosing our "style" for the future 

Post#1 » by Friend_Of_Haley » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:29 am

This is kind of related to the search for our new coach, but I think its worthy of its own thread.

Since we will be starting out with a new coach, we will in all likely hood be searching for a new style, specifically what type of offense we run.

I'm far from an expert about the X's and O's of basketball and specific schemes, but it seems to me we could be a very good running team. These running teams are often weak defensive teams, but we have enough individually good defenders to pull it off.

The only player I really see not fitting into this style is Gray, who I like.

But especially with out athletic big men, wouldn't it be great to see us run more.

Anyways, I'm interested to hear what some of the more knowledgeable posters have to say on this issue and how it might affect our coaching decision in the off season.
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Post#2 » by DanTown8587 » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:38 am

Bulls roster would not be good at running or such, but if you did the Houston trade I suggested the other day and your starting lineup was
Alston-McGrady-Noce-Thomas-Noah then you can run all day.
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Post#3 » by Friend_Of_Haley » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:55 am

Thomas and Noah are obviously athletic enough. And they both have average or above average handles for a big man, Noah is also a good passer. Our wing players and guards aren't as athletic, but I think it would be a lot easier to tweak our roster from those spots since we already have very good guys in the front court. I'm not worried about Deng, hes not super athletic, but okay. Gordon and Thabo would look good as well. Hinrich isn't ideal, but you could always make some deals. We're much closer to being a running team than a half court team as far as I can tell. I guess we're somewhere in the middle right now, but it seems like with our roster we should bee more run oriented than we are.
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Post#4 » by Rerisen » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:21 am

Not to open up a old wound, but Tyrus Thomas actually does not really sprint up the floor very often. Now I hardly thought it was egregious ever to the point of him deserving DNP's, and the whole thing was overblown when Skiles said it, but he honestly doesn't get up and down as fast as you would expect for his age and build.

If the Bulls were to be a running team, Tyrus would either have to get his ass in gear, or do a heck of a lot more conditioning if him getting winded is the reason for his lethargic jogging at times.
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Post#5 » by SensiBull » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:33 am

This is putting the cart before the horse. It's like trying to decide what kind of siding to put on a house you haven't chosen yet.

The first step is to make a commitment to a young player or two for a multi-year extension. Then, you choose a style that suits him/them.

We are generally a slim and athletic team, but it's pretty clear that Ben Gordon's strength, for example, is from behind the arc in a half-court game. I'm not sure you defer to running when your deadliest player excels in the half court. A similar argument could be made with respect to Aaron Gray. On the other hand, other players may be more suited to run.

Until a decision is made about who is a keeper and who is not, basedn on what they excel at, it'll be hard to consolidate the roster around a playing philosophy. Yet, that's a decision that the current administration seems reluctant to make.
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Post#6 » by Friend_Of_Haley » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:40 am

SensiBull wrote:This is putting the cart before the horse. It's like trying to decide what kind of siding to put on a house you haven't chosen yet.

The first step is to make a commitment to a young player or two for a multi-year extension. Then, you choose a style that suits him/them.

We are generally a slim and athletic team, but it's pretty clear that Ben Gordon's strength, for example, is from behind the arc in a half-court game. I'm not sure you defer to running when your deadliest player excels in the half court. A similar argument could be made with respect to Aaron Gray. On the other hand, other players may be more suited to run.

Until a decision is made about who is a keeper and who is not, basedn on what they excel at, it'll be hard to consolidate the roster around a playing philosophy. Yet, that's a decision that the current administration seems reluctant to make.

Look at Golden State tonight. They run a lot and throw up the most three pointers in the league.
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Post#7 » by SensiBull » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:51 am

That may be the case, but it's hardly the point of running. The point of running is to beat defenses down the court to create EASY, high-percentage buckets.
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Post#8 » by SensiBull » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:52 am

They also have more than one player who can shoot from the arc. The Bulls don't.
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Post#9 » by suckfish » Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:17 pm

In short I would like to see something with better spacing and more cuts to the basket instead of only cutting towards the perimeter.

I'd like to see more backdoor picks for Tyrus, more cutting to the basket when being overplayed. Less clogged up offenses which aren't quite so predictable, something that gives us more options when certain plays have been disrupted or prevented by the defense.

Less Wallace pick and rolls, less pull up jumpshots on the break..

I'm really not to fussed about what coach we bring in as long as he is capable, I don't think he has to be a guru on the offensive end of the court. I wouldn't be opposed to another defensive minded coach either, Tom Thibodeau would be real nice. But he has a a good thing going on in Boston I guess, even though it's an assistant coaching job, still a head coaching position would probably lure him away.

I don't think we should become a running team, just a logical offensive game plan would be nice while sustaining our defensive mindset.
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Post#10 » by realfung » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:45 pm

I don't think the Bulls need to be a running team, but a defensive team with half-court offense...

Like the Spurs........Bulls fans dont be sad, you guys have a good team....
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Post#11 » by NoSkyy » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:10 pm

I say we base our style off who we possibly end up drafting. For example, if we draft a Derrick Rose or Kevin Love(one with good passing and a monster in the passing lanes, or a monster outlet pass) We should be a running team. But if we draft someone like OJ Mayo or Eric Gordon we should stay a half court team because I think they play the best at a 1v1 standpoint. Also, if we got Michael Beasley...a Beasley, Tyrus, Noah front court makes me drool

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