Bucks/Suns Post Game

REDDzone · Post #1 » by **REDDzone** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:32 am

*sigh*

Couldn't miss through 3, and lose handily.

What can ya do?

Durbanfish4 · Post #2 » by **Durbanfish4** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:34 am

What was up with the random hand that showed up on the broadcast whenever Nash would take a 3?

mnstinks · Post #3 » by **mnstinks** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:35 am

Great idea to leave Nash wide open late in the game.

Ivey - 24 tonight, that looks weird in the box score, hard to believe.

xTitan · Post #4 » by **xTitan** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:36 am

The ironic thing to me was in the 4th quarter of a close game, the Suns become less selfish as the Bucks become more selfish. The Bucks seem to actually think they have guys who can go one on one down the stretch....silly boys. Brilliant game plan to keep it out of the post in the 4th quarter.

carmelbrownqueen · Post #5 » by **carmelbrownqueen** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:36 am

Good effort too bad the result wasn't different. Wonder if Bobby was playing even better to sell himself to the Suns a bit.

paul · Post #6 » by **paul** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:36 am

A pretty good performance to be honest, I'm not unhappy with that, a win would have been nice. Great to see CV and Simmons both play good games, of course CV gets yanked when he's burning, but I'm convinced LK hates him so it's to be expected.

On another point Bogut is a MONSTER that right now this coaching staff don't deserve to have. If anyone can legitimately point out why we didn't at least TRY to hit the low post in the entire 4th quarter I'll be very impressed. Seriously we've really gotta learn our lesson, jumpshooting and guards driving throgh the fourth quarter is just not going to win us games. It's really not rocket science.

casey123 · Post #7 » by **casey123** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:41 am

Bucks up by 9 at one point. LK rests Bogut and Redd at same time. Lead vanishes in matter of what seemed like seconds. Charlie V can't rebound. Simmons has no hops. Yi looks completely confused. Bell still shoots bricks. Only bright spot is continued improvement of Bogut.

jeremyd236 · Post #8 » by **jeremyd236** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:43 am

I think Redd's 6/7 third quarter and Bogut's overall great play were the reason for the unlikely lead after 3. Redd took 2 shots in the 4th and the rest of the team didn't show up either, so we lost. It'd help to play defense too. Damn pick and roll couldn't be stopped....

emunney · Post #9 » by **emunney** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:44 am

They were shading their defense toward Bogut in the 4th. Are CBQ and I really the only ones who saw this? It's tough to make a post entry pass when you've got a guy on his back, a guy playing off the shooter to disrupt the bounce pass to the front, and Marion sagging toward the lane to cut off the pass to the middle.

skones · Post #10 » by **skones** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:44 am

casey123 wrote:Bucks up by 9 at one point. LK rests Bogut and Redd at same time. Lead vanishes in matter of what seemed like seconds. Charlie V can't rebound. Simmons has no hops. Yi looks completely confused. Bell still shoots bricks. Only bright spot is continued improvement of Bogut.

CV grabbed 9 boards in under 30 minutes tonight. The guy rebounded well.....

trwi7 · Post #11 » by **trwi7** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:45 am

Durbanfish4 wrote:What was up with the random hand that showed up on the broadcast whenever Nash would take a 3?

That was a Suns fan.

Post #12 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:46 am

I liked the team play tonight without Mo in there.....still a work in progress at the end though.

If you guys who really like Mo want to point out that Nash got 37, that's great....but the bottom line is we hung in this game and led with 3:41 left.....guys were getting involved....decent defense and rebounding.....better to have an MVP like Nash go off on us to lose a game at the end than watch Beno Udrih score 25 against us in a blowout.

Max Green · Post #13 » by **Max Green** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:47 am

casey123 wrote:Bucks up by 9 at one point. LK rests Bogut and Redd at same time. Lead vanishes in matter of what seemed like seconds. Charlie V can't rebound. Simmons has no hops. Yi looks completely confused. Bell still shoots bricks. Only bright spot is continued improvement of Bogut.

Our Coach sucks. Larry K talks a good game but has been a below average coach all year. Just about everyone on this board before the season started was calling for Bogut to get more touches and that the offense should be run through him, but it took him and his coaching staff almost half the season to realize this? With a better coach this is a playoff team IMO.

paul · Post #14 » by **paul** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:48 am

emunney wrote:They were shading their defense toward Bogut in the 4th. Are CBQ and I really the only ones who saw this? It's tough to make a post entry pass when you've got a guy on his back, a guy playing off the shooter to disrupt the bounce pass to the front, and Marion sagging toward the lane to cut off the pass to the middle.

No I saw that as well, but if the argument is that our coaching staff don't have a play in their playbook to free up the post on a screen away, then it's not an argument at all. Could've sworn I saw that exact play straight out of a time out in the third.....

emunney · Post #15 » by **emunney** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:48 am

If you think that having Ivey instead of Mo is the reason we hung in this game, I just don't know what to say to you.

carmelbrownqueen · Post #16 » by **carmelbrownqueen** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:50 am

jeremyd236 wrote:I think Redd's 6/7 third quarter and Bogut's overall great play were the reason for the unlikely lead after 3. Redd took 2 shots in the 4th and the rest of the team didn't show up either, so we lost. It'd help to play defense too. Damn pick and roll couldn't be stopped....

This has been the problem all season long. The others haven't been showing up consistently. We can't get something from them then we don't win. We can't have good contributions in the first quarter or second quarter and nothing the rest of the game.

Cold Crush 24 · Post #17 » by **Cold Crush 24** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:51 am

What?

The Bucks blow it in the second half and can't close out games? When did this start?

Stopshere2 · Post #18 » by **Stopshere2** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:51 am

emunney wrote:They were shading their defense toward Bogut in the 4th. Are CBQ and I really the only ones who saw this? It's tough to make a post entry pass when you've got a guy on his back, a guy playing off the shooter to disrupt the bounce pass to the front, and Marion sagging toward the lane to cut off the pass to the middle.

Guards sagging towards Bogut should get others free and it did. Suns had the right Bucks taking the shots. If you include misses in the 4th that resulted in trips to the FT line, Ivey took 7, Bell 5, CV 4, Redd 3 and Bogut 2. Given who was in form, you'd like those shot attempts to read the opposite way. The poor-shooting Ivey and the slumping Bell get half the shots in the 4th and we unsurprisingly lose.
Add the poor defensive adjustments and it was game over.

emunney · Post #19 » by **emunney** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:51 am

paul wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

No I saw that as well, but if the argument is that our coaching staff don't have a play in their playbook to free up the post on a screen away, then it's not an argument at all. Could've sworn I saw that exact play straight out of a time out in the third.....

I think when one guy is getting that much attention, it's pretty much going to fall on other players to move and make a play. You're not going to just be able to dump it in to him like you did earlier in the game, and a screen away play would have to involve two quick passes that we shouldn't count on executing past two ball hawkers in Marion and Bell, one of whom will be moving to front Bogut after the swing.

carmelbrownqueen · Post #20 » by **carmelbrownqueen** » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:52 am

paulpressey25 wrote:I liked the team play tonight without Mo in there.....still a work in progress at the end though.

If you guys who really like Mo want to point out that Nash got 37, that's great....but the bottom line is we hung in this game and led with 3:41 left.....guys were getting involved....decent defense and rebounding.....better to have an MVP like Nash go off on us to lose a game at the end than watch Beno Udrih score 25 against us in a blowout.