ImageImage

Steinmiller, Walter, Kohl: Read This

Moderators: MickeyDavis, paulpressey25

User avatar
LUKE23
RealGM
Posts: 72,752
And1: 6,957
Joined: May 26, 2005
Location: Stunville
       

Steinmiller, Walter, Kohl: Read This 

Post#1 » by LUKE23 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:45 pm

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=718542

The NBA wants to expand to Europe. Jason Kidd may be going to Dallas. Shaq is with Phoenix, Pau Gasol with Kobe.

The league has found ways to make itself appealing at the all-star break.

Then there are the Milwaukee Bucks, lost in their own town.

"This is where amazing happens," is how the public-address announcer, as usual, earnestly tried to sell the Bradley Center to the church-quiet crowd that half-filled the building just before tip-off Wednesday night

Then the sound of crickets chirping was played as the New Orleans Hornets' starting lineup was introduced.

The Bucks have got to know that this little dig at the visitors backfires, don't they?

But there was some truth in the hype, the part about 40 years of tradition, genuinely great tradition. You should have been there at the Arena or even the Bradley Center for the 2001 run at the Finals. It was goose-bump-raising stuff that captivated the city.

This used to be a very good and worthwhile franchise, a real community asset, but one that has so badly lost its way.

It's time to start getting it back before no one cares anymore.

So what to do?

The Bucks can fire another inexperienced general manager and then a fifth coach in six years. They can try to dump the malcontents who have quit on the coach, but good luck there.

Even if they implode the roster by the trading deadline, clean out the front office and change coaches, it won't matter because, really, all of that would just be minutia against what really needs to happen.

The Bucks have tried all that, and still the bad contracts, the overmatched coaches and the losses stack up as high as the snow banks. The only constant is Herb Kohl and his small inner circle.

The Bucks will change only when the culture of the franchise changes. The times have changed, and the only real concession the Bucks have seemed to make is jumping on the NBA's garish in-game entertainment train. Except that real change doesn't come at the barrel of a T-shirt gun.

There is a model for culture change the Bucks could emulate right here in town. The Brewers used to have that provincial feel about them, the mom-and-pop store against a league full of Saks Fifth Avenues, but credit the Seligs greatly here before they sold: They hired Doug Melvin and Jack Zduriencik. Vice presidents with World Series experience, from San Francisco and Anaheim, were brought in. And Mark Attanasio has created a big-league atmosphere that has allowed the Brewers to compete again.

No one can force the senator to sell, and when he does you can only hope he keeps to his word that it will be to local investors who would want the Bucks to be here forever. Until that time, it is incumbent upon the senator to identify big-picture NBA people, pay them to change everything about the way the Bucks operate and get out of their way.

To an extent, he did it once before with Ernie Grunfeld and George Karl. There is no reason he can't do it again. He owes the city that much for the way it has supported his team even in the abundant bad times.

The crowd finally got on its feet when the Bucks had a chance to beat a very good team from New Orleans. But then there was a really bad shot at the end and another disappointed gathering left the building.

This has got to change.



Pretty bad when Mike Hunt is owning you. Whether things change or not, at least the public is starting to see where the immense problems of this organization originate. Three old, well past their prime executives who know absolutely nothing about building a team in today's NBA.
EastSideBucksFan
RealGM
Posts: 18,710
And1: 4,490
Joined: Jan 31, 2006
Contact:
 

 

Post#2 » by EastSideBucksFan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:51 pm

Mike Hunt grew some balls


:lol:



But seriously, it's good to see the word get out that this is a horribly managed team being held hostage by dinosaurs who don't know a thing about running a successful franchise.


If Herb really wants to see the Bucks compete before he dies, he needs to man up, hire a REAL coach, let the GM do his job and get the hell out of the way.
pilprin
Pro Prospect
Posts: 934
And1: 127
Joined: Jul 12, 2002

 

Post#3 » by pilprin » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:13 pm

Finally the pressure is starting to build. All we can do is continue to fan the flames and encourage people to speak out. Maybe, just maybe this change will happen.
EastSideBucksFan
RealGM
Posts: 18,710
And1: 4,490
Joined: Jan 31, 2006
Contact:
 

 

Post#4 » by EastSideBucksFan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:14 pm

pilprin wrote:Finally the pressure is starting to build. All we can do is continue to fan the flames and encourage people to speak out. Maybe, just maybe this change will happen.




Sparky is torching Herb Kohl on air right now regarding his comments in todays JS article.


Herb said "the seasons not over" and "we have a good group of players"

:banghead:
User avatar
LUKE23
RealGM
Posts: 72,752
And1: 6,957
Joined: May 26, 2005
Location: Stunville
       

 

Post#5 » by LUKE23 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:16 pm

Reporter: "Herb, your team is sitting at 19-34. What do you have to do to get back on the right track?"

Kohl: "Start winning more games"

Brilliant.
EastSideBucksFan
RealGM
Posts: 18,710
And1: 4,490
Joined: Jan 31, 2006
Contact:
 

 

Post#6 » by EastSideBucksFan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:17 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Reporter: "Herb, your team is sitting at 19-34. What do you have to do to get back on the right track?"

Kohl: "Start winning more games"

Brilliant.




Reporter: "What do you need to do to win more games?"

Kohl: "Score more points than the opponent usually works"
User avatar
MickeyDavis
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 101,879
And1: 54,991
Joined: May 02, 2002
Location: The Craps Table
     

 

Post#7 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:52 pm

How ironic is it that the Brewers are the team that the Bucks need to emulate.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
User avatar
WEFFPIM
RealGM
Posts: 38,521
And1: 473
Joined: Nov 14, 2005
Location: WEFFPIM. I'm the real WEFFPIM.
   

 

Post#8 » by WEFFPIM » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:35 pm

Response from Kohl and Inner Circle: We represent, the Lollipop Guild! The Lollipop Guild! The Lollipop Guild!
ReddWing wrote:Being a fan of this team is tantamount to being in hell...There is no Christ that is coming to save us. Even if there was, we'd trade him for a 28 year old wing.
User avatar
LUKE23
RealGM
Posts: 72,752
And1: 6,957
Joined: May 26, 2005
Location: Stunville
       

 

Post#9 » by LUKE23 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:38 pm

Image


"We just need to win more games"
User avatar
DH34Phan
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,627
And1: 114
Joined: Jun 30, 2005
Contact:

 

Post#10 » by DH34Phan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:40 pm

Too many stickies. Don't think we need the 'second half' one.
User avatar
WEFFPIM
RealGM
Posts: 38,521
And1: 473
Joined: Nov 14, 2005
Location: WEFFPIM. I'm the real WEFFPIM.
   

 

Post#11 » by WEFFPIM » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:41 pm

DH34Phan wrote:Too many stickies. Don't think we need the 'next year' one.


SHUT UP, FIEND
ReddWing wrote:Being a fan of this team is tantamount to being in hell...There is no Christ that is coming to save us. Even if there was, we'd trade him for a 28 year old wing.
User avatar
DH34Phan
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,627
And1: 114
Joined: Jun 30, 2005
Contact:

 

Post#12 » by DH34Phan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:41 pm

WEFFPIM wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



SHUT UP, FIEND

? okkkkkkkkkkkk
75totheMACCfund
Veteran
Posts: 2,600
And1: 47
Joined: Jul 16, 2006
Location: 53202
       

 

Post#13 » by 75totheMACCfund » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:29 pm

again, I do not think this needs to be directed at Mr. Steinmiller.
User avatar
MickeyDavis
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 101,879
And1: 54,991
Joined: May 02, 2002
Location: The Craps Table
     

 

Post#14 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:35 pm

Steinmiller isn't directly involved in the basketball side of things but he does have a ton of clout with Kohl and is directly involved with the budget both on the basketball side and on the operations side.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
User avatar
bigkurty
General Manager
Posts: 8,212
And1: 1,511
Joined: Apr 23, 2005
Location: Gilbert, AZ
     

 

Post#15 » by bigkurty » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:09 pm

How come everyone wants to pick on Ron so much? He looks like such a nice guy.
Image
User avatar
trwi7
RealGM
Posts: 111,685
And1: 27,269
Joined: Jul 12, 2006
Location: Aussie bias
         

 

Post#16 » by trwi7 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:11 pm

bigkurty wrote:How come everyone wants to pick on Ron so much? He looks like such a nice guy.
(picture)


He looks like a guy who got beat up in high school....a lot. :lol:
stellation wrote:What's the difference between Gery Woelful and this glass of mineral water? The mineral water actually has a source."


I Hate Manure wrote:We look to be awful next season without Beasley.
EastSideBucksFan
RealGM
Posts: 18,710
And1: 4,490
Joined: Jan 31, 2006
Contact:
 

 

Post#17 » by EastSideBucksFan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:21 pm

I just want to see something, anything to motivate me to watch the second half of the season.
GrandAdmiralDan
RealGM
Posts: 15,159
And1: 1,440
Joined: Jul 24, 2004
Location: New Berlin, WI (Milwaukee)
Contact:
     

 

Post#18 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:27 pm

trwi7 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



He looks like a guy who got beat up in high school....a lot. :lol:


I forgot to mention it on here I think, but Ron Walter was not in his seat for Wednesday's Hornets game. I've been to all but three home games this season and he's only not been in his seat on one other occasion, so it is pretty rare that he isn't there. Perhaps he was too busy trying to track down europa :)
97-98
Nick Van Exel (LAL) on defending the Stockton-Malone pick-and-roll: "Yeah,
I got a way to defend it. Bring a bat to the game and kill one of them."
User avatar
MickeyDavis
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 101,879
And1: 54,991
Joined: May 02, 2002
Location: The Craps Table
     

 

Post#19 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:34 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:I just want to see something, anything to motivate me to watch the second half of the season.


What's even more depressing is that although they call after the all-star break the "second half" of the season, we've already played 64% of our games. This turd season is already almost 2/3 over.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
User avatar
LUKE23
RealGM
Posts: 72,752
And1: 6,957
Joined: May 26, 2005
Location: Stunville
       

 

Post#20 » by LUKE23 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 7:38 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



What's even more depressing is that although they call after the all-star break the "second half" of the season, we've already played 64% of our games. This turd season is already almost 2/3 over.


I wish it was 3/3 over.

Return to Milwaukee Bucks