The shot clock

[JoshB914]

That was not the reason we won the game. But what an embarrassment. The incompetency in the Hawks organization starts at the top with the Spirit Group. They cannot allow this to go on.

If any Hawks owners read this, you should be ashamed. Even in the biggest win of the milennium, you managed to still give people something negative to say about the Hawks. You embarrassed the organization, the NBA, the fans, and most importantly yourselves.

[pat don]

That was pretty rough for the Celtics because they run more of a half court set while the Hawks were trying to run the Cs out the building, and they did so effectivley.

I just cant help being frustrated by the shot clock coming back to life all of the sudden when the Hawks are looking to kill some clock.

Anyways enjoy the win guys, your team earned it. Just too bad for the Hawks that Al Horford had to ignite that flame under Paul Pierce. That was not wise.

[Venables]

Man, this ish has been going on for the past few years. For real, if I'm the guy at Philips who's in charge of the whole marketing deal with the arena (b.c it is Philip's Arena), I'd be going crazy. An electronics company sponsors the arena, yet the electronics in the arena break down ALL THE TIME. Now THAT is a bad look for Philip's. A very bad look.

[TyroneSlothrop]

Just too bad for the Hawks that Al Horford had to ignite that flame under Paul Pierce. That was not wise.

If Pierce needed someone to light a flame under him in the playoffs, something's wrong with him.

[cfan79]

No offense guys, but the shot clock operator deserves the player of the game award for that one. If he didn't stop the game and allow the 6-7 players you guys play to rest the Hawks wouldn't have won.

[conleyorbust]

No offense guys, but the shot clock operator deserves the player of the game award for that one. If he didn't stop the game and allow the 6-7 players you guys play to rest the Hawks wouldn't have won.

Yeah thats probably true, the Celtics really outplayed the Hawks in all aspects of the game.

It was pretty obvious that the Hawks were overmatched and couldn't hang with Boston in this one, fortunately every time they needed a big stop or a basket the shotclock operator was there to bail them out.

Thats why Garnett and Perkins couldn't stop Smith and Horford from doing whatever they wanted. Thats why Pierce and Ray Ray shot a combined 10-27...

No offense taken, you are wrong.

[evildallas]

No offense guys, but the shot clock operator deserves the player of the game award for that one. If he didn't stop the game and allow the 6-7 players you guys play to rest the Hawks wouldn't have won.

You really believe that? Was there a shot clock problem in Philly on Sunday? Detroit only played 7 players substantial minutes. Or just looking at Saturday's game, Boston played 8 players more than 10 minutes each with Allen and Garnett playing 41 and 42 respectively. Atlanta played 7 players 10 minutes each with Bibby, Smith, and Johnson playing 44, 44 and 41 minutes respectively.

Following your logic, our coach just has to the selectively use his timeouts to lengthen the game with more rests and our top 7 will beat your top 8. The only advantage the 66 win Celtics have is their bench. See how freaking ludicrous your argument sounds when I say it?

Damn, just accept that Boston didn't bring enough intensity for one night and the Hawks played a good game. Is that too hard?

[cfan79]

You really believe that? Was there a shot clock problem in Philly on Sunday? Detroit only played 7 players substantial minutes. Or just looking at Saturday's game,

Atlanta isn't Detroit and Philly isn't Boston. Plain and simple fact is that Hawks were fortunate that the game was stopped for long periods. Boston is a much deeper team. In the first 2 games they wore the Hawks out.

[cfan79]

Following your logic, our coach just has to the selectively use his timeouts to lengthen the game with more rests and our top 7 will beat your top 8.

There's no such thing as 30 minute timeouts. The C's would have played their bench a lot more in the 4th once they got a decent lead.

[JoshB914]

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There's no such thing as 30 minute timeouts. The C's would have played their bench a lot more in the 4th once they got a decent lead.

After one half of basketball, the Celtics should beat the Hawks. It doesn't matter if there was a break. If that is what cost Boston the game against a 37-win team then they are going to have some major problems down the road.

[cfan79]

After one half of basketball, the Celtics should beat the Hawks. It doesn't matter if there was a break. If that is what cost Boston the game against a 37-win team then they are going to have some major problems down the road.

The C's played dreadful in the first half and it was tied at halftime. The 2nd half they would have turned it on like they've done all year if the clocks were working.

[JoshB914]

So an extended break means the C's lose their composure? If you want to win a title, you will have to overcome obstacles. If you struggle to overcome an extended rest against an average team than you've got some problems.

[conleyorbust]

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The C's played dreadful in the first half and it was tied at halftime. The 2nd half they would have turned it on like they've done all year if the clocks were working.

Hey that strategy worked real well for the Pistons and Heat after they won the title. Good teams can always turn it up and win when they want but only if the shotclocks are ticking. Everyone knows that faulty shotclocks favor the underdog.

[tontoz]

No offense guys, but the shot clock operator deserves the player of the game award for that one. If he didn't stop the game and allow the 6-7 players you guys play to rest the Hawks wouldn't have won.

That is flat out (Please Use More Appropriate Word). The players were already rested after the halftime break. It wasn't like another 10 minutes of rest would make a difference at that point.

The playoff format of giving the teams 2 days off after each game is what allows the Hawks to play a tight rotation. I guess you should blame Stern for the Hawks victory.

[evildallas]

Well since according to Cfan all it takes to beat the Celtics is a long halftime, we have the game plan. Someone trip over the cord or spill something on the court at halftime. The delay will drop the mighty Cs quicker than a hot 3 point shooter. Now I know how Boston lost 16 regular season games.



Your argument really mystifies me. The added delay should allow each team to play their best longer, which would be adv. Boston. Older players would need the rest more than younger players, adv. Boston. Additionally, one would expect younger players would be more rattled by the disruption of routine, adv. Boston. You are right that Boston has a superior bench, but don't they also have superior starters? The added delay argument only works if the team without a bench has better starters than the team with depth because both teams would be able to play their starters longer.

I would have accepted the argument that it was just the Hawks night and Josh Smith made shots he never makes or that the emotion of the 1st home gmae carried them or that the Celtics took the Hawks too lightly. However your argument seems flawed unless you think we have the better starting five. If that is what you are saying then thanks. I disagree, but thanks just the same.