Mavs could be eyeing Josh Smith in sign and trade

Rip2137 · Post #1 » by **Rip2137** » Thu May 15, 2008 9:36 pm

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/s ... tro-080515

I personally don't see how they have anything that we would want to trade for Josh Smith that we wouldn't match whatever offer they put out here though.

Post #2 » by **HMFFL** » Thu May 15, 2008 9:42 pm

It's impossibly at this point for Dallas to acquire Josh Smith. Josh Howard won't work due to Atlanta having Marvin Williams. So, I just don't see how a trade is possibly with the limited value Dallas has.

From Atlanta's perspective Brandon Bass would need to be included. I just don't see anyone else that works.

conleyorbust · Post #3 » by **conleyorbust** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:05 pm

Dirk would have to come

killbuckner · Post #4 » by **killbuckner** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:27 pm

HMFFL- Marvin simply isn't good enough for the Hawks to worry about keeping his spot in the lineup free. He is a below average starter who hits FA next offseason- the Hawks need to start considering if there are ways to upgrade the SF position.

killbuckner · Post #5 » by **killbuckner** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:30 pm

oh- I never said that. I am just saying that I don't think people should be worrying about "blocking" marvin anymore. Just as I don't think the Hawks should be passing up moves worrying about "blocking" acie law.

conleyorbust · Post #6 » by **conleyorbust** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:31 pm

killbuckner wrote:HMFFL- Marvin simply isn't good enough for the Hawks to worry about keeping his spot in the lineup free. He is a below average starter who hits FA next offseason- the Hawks need to start considering if there are ways to upgrade the SF position.

Right, but I don't that is really the issue.

The issue is that we don't have a hole that needs to be filled by Josh Howard that would warrant trading Smith for him. Do you think we should trade Smith for a Howard?

td00 · Post #7 » by **td00** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:35 pm

Smoove or Howard? I choose Smoove.

Is it possible to package Marvin and Chills for a inside guy? Smoove, Horford and Zaza need help in the worst way.

If you can find one, you better plan on him coming in as a starter. Oh, if only Caron Butler would come here. At this point, I would take a Chuck Hayes, who will not get as many minutes behind Scolia and Yao.

conleyorbust · Post #8 » by **conleyorbust** » Thu May 15, 2008 10:50 pm

killbuckner wrote:oh- I never said that. I am just saying that I don't think people should be worrying about "blocking" marvin anymore. Just as I don't think the Hawks should be passing up moves worrying about "blocking" acie law.

Agreed.

HoopsGuru25 · Post #9 » by **HoopsGuru25** » Thu May 15, 2008 11:00 pm

conleyorbust wrote:Dirk would have to come

Exactly. They don't have Harris or any picks left so I don't see the point of even talking to them.

killbuckner · Post #10 » by **killbuckner** » Thu May 15, 2008 11:05 pm

This sounds like the rumor an agent would start to get his client max money. It worked for Rashard Lewis...

JoshB914 · Post #11 » by **JoshB914** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:19 am

The Mavs do understand that a sign and trade requires us to sign off on it right?

Post #12 » by **HMFFL** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:24 am

killbuckner wrote:HMFFL- Marvin simply isn't good enough for the Hawks to worry about keeping his spot in the lineup free. He is a below average starter who hits FA next offseason- the Hawks need to start considering if there are ways to upgrade the SF position.

I fully agree with you as that's been my point all season long. Not exactly sure why you quoted me and replied to what I have been saying all year long.

How do you upgrade the 3 by trading Josh Smith to Dallas? By acquiring Josh Howard for him and finding away to move Marvin Williams later?

Post #13 » by **HMFFL** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:27 am

JoshB914 wrote:The Mavs do understand that a sign and trade requires us to sign off on it right?

The articles does say SNT.

Mavs hoping they can work their way into the sign-and-trade mix for either Miami's Shawn Marion or Atlanta's Josh Smith.

Marc Stein is just pointing out the obvious needs and Josh Smith is one of them. However, Marion is a much better fit, and the Mavericks need to pursue him strongly.

betta1 · Post #14 » by **betta1** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:07 am

I can't remember the last time Marc Stein was right about anything.

A-Town Connection · Post #15 » by **A-Town Connection** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:11 am

conleyorbust wrote:Dirk would have to come

I like Smith and all. He is a great player, but Dirks Value...come on

UDRIH14 · Post #16 » by **UDRIH14** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:14 am

why u need howard when u have jj and childress

SaintofKillers · Post #17 » by **SaintofKillers** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:38 am

conleyorbust wrote:Dirk would have to come

I expect Dirk to do that when Smoove gets traded. Hell, I'd come too.

conleyorbust · Post #18 » by **conleyorbust** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:15 pm

A-Town Connection wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I like Smith and all. He is a great player, but Dirks Value...come on

My point wasn't that Smith=Dirk, my point was that we have no other reason to deal Smith to the Mavs.

raleigh · Post #19 » by **raleigh** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:21 pm

Yep, this is simply a ploy by Smith's agent.

He should've been more creative.

M301E814W404 · Post #20 » by **M301E814W404** » Fri May 16, 2008 2:15 pm

The only piece the Mavs have is Dirk...