Surely there has to be some interest in this series, right? Right?
Washburn is pitching poorly once again. Who does he blame this time? Does he go back to Kenji since Burke's no longer his personal catcher? The weather? God? Or does he, you know, finally admit he let the team down and carry the burden on his own shoulders...
Sexson's back, and Vidro's still hitting third because...he needs to rack up as many as at bats as possible to make sure his option vests.
Beltre just swung at a pitch over his head and missed it by a foot. God...
Mariners v. Angels
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I don't think it's a question of heart/passion, so much as it's a question of poor personnel choices and a lack of talent.
3/5 of our rotation can pitch with all the heart in their world, but that doesn't make their mid-80's offerings any less hittable.
Vidro and Sexson can play with all the passion in the world, but they're both declining hitters in their mid-30's; Vidro's never had power, and Sexson's bat is slow as hell.
Ibanez can play with all the passion in the world but he's still a godawful defender who looks like an ass when he's chasing the rolling baseball all over the outfield.
The team has the unfortunate problem of having lots of players paid to be superstars who lack the talent to produce as such, and players forced into playing a position where management says "we're happy putting him there" despite everyone knowing full well it's a spot where they will fail.
3/5 of our rotation can pitch with all the heart in their world, but that doesn't make their mid-80's offerings any less hittable.
Vidro and Sexson can play with all the passion in the world, but they're both declining hitters in their mid-30's; Vidro's never had power, and Sexson's bat is slow as hell.
Ibanez can play with all the passion in the world but he's still a godawful defender who looks like an ass when he's chasing the rolling baseball all over the outfield.
The team has the unfortunate problem of having lots of players paid to be superstars who lack the talent to produce as such, and players forced into playing a position where management says "we're happy putting him there" despite everyone knowing full well it's a spot where they will fail.
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Nice to see Bedard doing his part to help us gain some ground on the Angels. For a supposed ace he seems to have a nasty habit of alternating really nice starts with games where he doesn't even give his team a chance to win.
Ha ha ha...I don't care if we lose. Watching Dickey when he's on like this is all kinds of fun.
Ha ha ha...I don't care if we lose. Watching Dickey when he's on like this is all kinds of fun.
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I don't think I understand the reasoning behind pinch-hitting Cairo for Burke in a one run game with no one on. What's the possible outcome there? Who's the better bet to get on base between those two?
Yuni just flailed at three straight sliders outside. Nice approach.
Another loss, and now the team's 14.5 back in the first week of June. Someone in the front office has to realize this team has no chance at the playoffs...make some **** moves already...
Yuni just flailed at three straight sliders outside. Nice approach.
Another loss, and now the team's 14.5 back in the first week of June. Someone in the front office has to realize this team has no chance at the playoffs...make some **** moves already...
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Sweezo wrote:I don't think it's a question of heart/passion, so much as it's a question of poor personnel choices and a lack of talent.
3/5 of our rotation can pitch with all the heart in their world, but that doesn't make their mid-80's offerings any less hittable.
Vidro and Sexson can play with all the passion in the world, but they're both declining hitters in their mid-30's; Vidro's never had power, and Sexson's bat is slow as hell.
Ibanez can play with all the passion in the world but he's still a godawful defender who looks like an ass when he's chasing the rolling baseball all over the outfield.
The team has the unfortunate problem of having lots of players paid to be superstars who lack the talent to produce as such, and players forced into playing a position where management says "we're happy putting him there" despite everyone knowing full well it's a spot where they will fail.
right on the nail. the M's have created high hopes (pipe dreams) and now that we are all facing reality it's a pretty aweful reallity.
i said it in another thread, this team has no identity, it has no player to relate to, i mean, well, maybe ichiro, but maybe everybody hates the rest of the team or all the team.
how has the attendance been during the last month and how does the crowd behave?
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b_roy7 wrote:Pretty sad how no one even cares about any game anymore. I'm still watching, but my care for it just really isn't there. When did we start playing good last year, does anyone remember that? I thought it was a pretty late run that got us close to the postseason...
Right b4 All-Star break, they went on like an 8 game winning streak with Mike Hargrove at the helm. They started playing like they were the best team in baseball, then Hargrove abruptly jetted (in the midst of an 8 game winning streak), and the rest is history. The Mariners were like 12-14 games over 500 when Hargrove abruptly quite, and basically were a .500 team the rest of the way with McLaren. Surely there has to be some validity to the notion that McLaren just can't get the best out of his team?
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TheUrbanZealot wrote: Surely there has to be some validity to the notion that McLaren just can't get the best out of his team?
You can
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Sweezo wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
But what if you paid $120 million for the dirt?
Well the GM certainly is not impervious to criticism. I mean some of his moves have been downright questionable - Soriano for Ramirez, signing re-treads like Jeff Weaver, etc. But the fact remains that players whom were playing at at an all star level up until All-Star break of last year simply have gone backwards since McLaren took the helm. Players aren't robots. A coach/manager has to be able to discern the differences in personalities/skill and be able to motivate each one of those players in each one's respective way. McLaren obviously doesn't do a good job of getting the most out of his players, whether it be via coaching technique, motivational technique, or what have you. Take a guy like Lou Piniella, who took basically a less talented/equally talented, even OLDER team to 116 wins in 2001. Granted, there is something about having Edgar over Vidro, but it's not like the differences in the 2 teams was substantial enough to justify such a variance in performance. Plus, this team's pitching staff is actually more talented.
I think Bavasi is slightly after McLaren and the players in terms of the hierarchy of blame. He made a couple of ballsy moves that I have no problems with, but he's stuck with a team in disarray and a coaching staff that has completely lost control.
I say we get rid of McLaren 1st, see if that effects any change, then we can start looking to replace the GM if a new manager still doesn't get the players to respond...