Paul/West/Chandler vs Oden/Roy/Aldridge

[Harry10]

as a GM, which big three would you rather have to build a team around?

[thegreatblaze]

This is tough....

Right now? Hornets core.

In the future? Blazers core.

All homerism aside.

[Village Idiot]

Looking at ages alone. At the start of next season:

Oden 20, Chandler 26
Aldridge 23, West 28

In six years I have a hard time seeing Oden not being better than Chandler is now. Aldridge also has five years to get where West is now. He's not far behind as things stand.

Paul is a special player. Roy is too. Paul has a bigger comparative advantage at PG than Roy does at SG so I'll give the edge to Paul.

[NO-KG-AI]

Umm Paul and West are a lot better than Roy and Aldridge, the gap between Paul and Roy is huge, don't kid yourself.

Oden could be the best player of the bunch in time though, and that will tip the scales.

[eatyourchildren]

I'd take the Roy/Oden/Aldridge group just for the fact that Chandler pretty much cannot become that much better. I don't see any such limiter on the ORA group.

Paul is transcendent, but if Oden turns out to be transcendent as well you have to give it up to the big man.

[shawngoat23]

The Hornet trio easily right now. But mostly because of Chris Paul. David West is an all-star and Tyson Chandler is an all-star caliber big, but they're not that hard to replace.

I'll take the Blazer trio for the future though. I'm really high on Oden (I believe he's top 3 in terms of trade value), and I think Roy has a great career ahead of him too. Aldridge might be an all-star one day, but I don't think he makes or breaks the Blazer core. Near all-star players are nice to have, but they're not that rare.

[CBS7]

Hornets right now, but they're also much older.

[Village Idiot]

Umm Paul and West are a lot better than Roy and Aldridge, the gap between Paul and Roy is huge, don't kid yourself.

I can buy you arguement that Paul is a lot better than Roy but on what basis is West better than Aldridge?

Look at the per 36 numbers:

West

PPG: 19.6
RPG: 8.5
APG: 2.2
BLK: 1.2
FG% 48.2
FT% 85

Aldridge

ppg: 18.3
rpg: 7.9
apg: 1.7
bpg: 1.3
fg%: 48.3
ft%: 76.2

Sure West's stats are slightly better now but given the fact that he's also 5 years older than Aldridge and the OP asked which 3 you'd rather build a team around I think your arguement is weak.

[NO-KG-AI]

Umm Paul and West are a lot better than Roy and Aldridge, the gap between Paul and Roy is huge, don't kid yourself.

I can buy you arguement that Paul is a lot better than Roy but on what basis is West better than Aldridge?

Look at the per 36 numbers:

West

PPG: 19.6
RPG: 8.5
APG: 2.2
BLK: 1.2
FG% 48.2
FT% 85

Aldridge

ppg: 18.3
rpg: 7.9
apg: 1.7
bpg: 1.3
fg%: 48.3
ft%: 76.2

Sure West's stats are slightly better now but given the fact that he's also 5 years older than Aldridge and the OP asked which 3 you'd rather build a team around I think your arguement is weak.

Not really, my argument is that David is a much better player, and he still is, he's a much better defender, and grabs his rebounds next too a dominant rebounder on a great rebounding team, where as Aldridge was not on a great rebounding team. West had more rebounds than anyone on the Blazers, and he played next to Tyson Chandler....

Per 36 is weak, way to bring down West's stats to make it look closer, but you didn't account for the fact that players tend to be more efficient on less shots per game.

Fact is, West was 20.6/8.9 as the second option on a contender, and Aldridge was 17.6/7.8 on a young team who started quick and faded quicker. That's not even counting defense and intangibles....

I would be surprised if Aldridge wasn't better than David West eventually, but right now, no, he's not really on his level.

[Village Idiot]

Umm Paul and West are a lot better than Roy and Aldridge, the gap between Paul and Roy is huge, don't kid yourself.

I can buy you arguement that Paul is a lot better than Roy but on what basis is West better than Aldridge?

Look at the per 36 numbers:

West

PPG: 19.6
RPG: 8.5
APG: 2.2
BLK: 1.2
FG% 48.2
FT% 85

Aldridge

ppg: 18.3
rpg: 7.9
apg: 1.7
bpg: 1.3
fg%: 48.3
ft%: 76.2

Sure West's stats are slightly better now but given the fact that he's also 5 years older than Aldridge and the OP asked which 3 you'd rather build a team around I think your arguement is weak.

Not really, my argument is that David is a much better player, and he still is, he's a much better defender, and grabs his rebounds next too a dominant rebounder on a great rebounding team, where as Aldridge was not on a great rebounding team. West had more rebounds than anyone on the Blazers, and he played next to Tyson Chandler....

Per 36 is weak, way to bring down West's stats to make it look closer, but you didn't account for the fact that players tend to be more efficient on less shots per game.

Fact is, West was 20.6/8.9 as the second option on a contender, and Aldridge was 17.6/7.8 on a young team who started quick and faded quicker. That's not even counting defense and intangibles....

I would be surprised if Aldridge wasn't better than David West eventually, but right now, no, he's not really on his level.

You're so right. Comparing per 36 stats is so weak. Let's compare their stats by age to compensate for that factor as well. Looking at West's stat's when he was 22 I see he averaged 20.1 and 11.8...at Xavier. OK. When he made it to the NBA he averaged 3.8 points and 4.2 rebounds. Not per 36 mind you but per game. Not fair? OK, his 2nd year he averaged 6.2 points and 4.3 boards. It wasn't until his third season that he averaged 17.1 points and 7.4 rebounds which is similar to what Aldridge averaged last season in his 2nd year.

I'd be willing to bet that in his 5th season will be putting up good numbers on a contender too. He's already putting up good numbers on a team that exceeded everyone's expectations.

[CBS7]

Did you even read what he said? He said right now West is better but he'd be surprised if Aldridge wasn't better then West eventually. You really disagree with anything there?

I'd take the Hornets trio now, and the Blazers trio in the future.

[TMU]

I will gamble my chances with the Blazers' trio. I am intrigued by the fact that Oden and Aldridge can be the twin towers since D-Rob and Duncan.

[Village Idiot]

Did you even read what he said? He said right now West is better but he'd be surprised if Aldridge wasn't better then West eventually. You really disagree with anything there?

I'd take the Hornets trio now, and the Blazers trio in the future.

Yes I did read it and took exception with the notion that West was "a lot better" than Aldridge currently/at this stage in their careers and the whole notion that West is a better building block than Aldridge.

[CB4MiamiHeat]

Im not a huge fan of Aldridge's game..hes not a great defender or rebounder. Hes a good PF maybe will get better..but as of now ill take West with no hesitation.

Paul is a superstar..i like Roy..but this isnt even close here.

I think Oden as soon as next season will be better than Chandler..his impact defensively is gonna push him ahead. Chandler defended Duncan well, but i think hes a little overrated on defense.

Ill take the Hornets trio now and in the future....Oden is the only reason ill change my mind if he becomes David Robinson or something.

[d-will8]

Right now you'd have to take the Hornets' trio. Paul is better than Roy and probably always will be, West is better than Aldridge currently and Oden is a question mark. However, I think Aldridge will eventually be better than West and Oden has the potential to have a much, much bigger advantage over Chandler than Paul will ever have over Roy, so I'd take the Blazers' trio for the long haul.

[thegreatblaze]

Paul is obviously better than Roy. But I don't think the gap is nearly as wide as some people in here are making it out to be. Roy can go head-to-head with just about anybody in this league, and step up his game when needed most. If he continues to grow as a player over the next few years, then that gap may close a reasonable amount.

[eatyourchildren]

Right now you'd have to take the Hornets' trio. Paul is better than Roy and probably always will be, West is better than Aldridge currently and Oden is a question mark. However, I think Aldridge will eventually be better than West and Oden has the potential to have a much, much bigger advantage over Chandler than Paul will ever have over Roy, so I'd take the Blazers' trio for the long haul.

Actually, going forward there has to be some doubt as to whether Paul can keep up the same kind of game he has currently, mainly because of size/quickness issues. Roy has shown that even playing at a snail's pace that he can have a huge impact on the game. That ORA squad can really pound the ball in the halfcourt sets effectively, i think, and that is big in the playoffs.

[NO-KG-AI]

Did you even read what he said? He said right now West is better but he'd be surprised if Aldridge wasn't better then West eventually. You really disagree with anything there?

I'd take the Hornets trio now, and the Blazers trio in the future.

Yes I did read it and took exception with the notion that West was "a lot better" than Aldridge currently/at this stage in their careers and the whole notion that West is a better building block than Aldridge.

I might trade West for Aldridge right now, just so Paul can have someone closer to his age to grow with. West is still a much better at this point, I'm not talking about the future, I'm not talking about the past, I'm talking about right now, David West is better at the game of basketball than Lamarcus Aldridge...

[zhangjiawei]

In his first 2 months in NBA, Oden will be troubled by fouls...
But once he go through he will be a titan.
He will not, maybe never grab 12 rebs per night like Tyson ,but he surely can make the paint of Portland different.


Aldridge is on the way becoming a quiet Sheed ,not so solid on D, but a big shooter around 18 feet. Compared with West , he is more like a big guy... David West has great face-up game but his footstep seems more like a SF.

Paul >>>>>>>>>Roy now.


The Hornest guys are now better than Portland boys, but Roy a smart boy, LA has more potential than West ,and Oden has possibility to be an Alonzo or even Ewing type Center.

I don't think Roy has chance to catch up with Paul , who was only 23 and has been in Mvp race this year. But LA and Oden? They have chance ...

[CBS7]

Oden is bigger and slightly less athletic then Dwight Howard. He projects to be a great rebounder.