Camby to the Clippers

rafy · Post #1 » by **rafy** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:00 am

Camby was traded to the Clippers for a 2nd rd pick.

I think they are having a firesale, what about Hedo for Kenyon Martin?

If Crittendon (sp?) gets his butt here, we'll have another creator because in that department we would suck without Hedo, but if we get another creator, having a quality PF while we are contending in the east would be a big leap. Yes, Kmart's deal sucks, but whatever... we have $$$$$hard.

So if we trade Turkoglu while his value is in an all time high, we could finally balance our roster.

Nelson
Pietrus
$$$$$$
Martin
Howard

altough I'd like to have a better PG, because that way Boston would be swetting in the ECF with us.

EasternMagic · Post #2 » by **EasternMagic** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:10 am

hedo for kenyon martin.... no thanks

richboy · Post #3 » by **richboy** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:15 am

Thats what happens when you overpay players.

Were not trading Hedo for Kmart.

kookie_819 · Post #4 » by **kookie_819** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:16 am

Kenyon Martin is nothing like what he used to be. No way.

But wait... Camby for just a 2nd rounder???

How come Otis couldn't do JJ+Cook+Battie+2nd rounder for him?

Way to go Otis! :evil:

/sarcasm

EasternMagic · Post #5 » by **EasternMagic** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:23 am

kookie_819 wrote:Kenyon Martin is nothing like what he used to be. No way.

But wait... Camby for just a 2nd rounder???

How come Otis couldn't do JJ+Cook+Battie+2nd rounder for him?

Way to go Otis!

/sarcasm

Wow when i saw this at first i almost blew... lol

rafy · Post #6 » by **rafy** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:25 am

I don't think like "WE NEED KMART!!!11!!", but I do think we should round our damn roster because it's a good roster for the season, but it's not a championship roster (hello $hard!!).

Kmart was SOLID last year, for example, he guarded Kobe Bryant, with good success in some games of the PO's, and in the season he did a FABULOUS job on Timmy D.

We are talking about a great defender, nice finisher, good help defender and even has a nice jumpshot. Overpaid? yes... we know about that.

The same as in 2002? never, but he isn't a crap player, he is a warrior.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcPWBj6pnm4 after 3:30, the highlights are from this season. He is not dead.

flyingvee · Post #7 » by **flyingvee** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:28 am

I don't get it. I can see the CLippers going for this steal, but whats going on in Denver? Are they rebuilding already? Why would give up a quality center like Camby for a 2nd round pick? I know the cap rules are complicated, but somethings seriously wrong when the league allows such lop-sided trades.

rafy · Post #8 » by **rafy** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:34 am

The Clippers are under the cap and Denver is WAYYYY over the cap, so this moves saves them more than 20 million.

Jersey Generals · Post #9 » by **Jersey Generals** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:38 am

kookie_819 wrote:How come Otis couldn't do JJ+Cook+Battie+2nd rounder for him?

I have to admit, though, if we were far enough under the cap to trade for Camby for just a 2nd and/or JJ, I'd do it. He'd be great here, bringing much needed size, rebounds, and defense.

Nelson/Johnson/Critt?
MP/Lee
Lewis/Hedo
Camby/Cook
Howard/Battie

That's an awesome starting lineup, with a great sixth man in Hedo.

flyingvee · Post #10 » by **flyingvee** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:41 am

rafy wrote:The Clippers are under the cap and Denver is WAYYYY over the cap, so this moves saves them more than 20 million.

Yea I know that, but it defeats the purpose of having to trade for matching salaries. At least this time it's the Clippers. Usually such lop-sided trades happen to teams that Stern favors, (Lakers-Celtics)

Neon1 · Post #11 » by **Neon1** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:19 am

lmao...ok they didnt even get a 2nd round pick outright...they actually got "an option to switch 2nd round picks"

NashtyNas · Post #12 » by **NashtyNas** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:32 am

This deal (LA-DEN) seems like a plausable deal for both sides. Denver wasnt going anywhere with or without Camby, they plain SUCK, therefore they get lux tax relief right now rather than paying it for two years and getting nothign out of it (saves about 20mil). Only problem for LAC might be if he can gaurd the 4 or not..

SpaceCoastGator · Post #13 » by **SpaceCoastGator** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:40 am

EasternMagic wrote:hedo for kenyon martin.... no thanks

Agreed, no way Kmartin for Hedo - salaries don't match it would have to be Hedo & Battie...also, we won 52 games with RL & Hedo as our forwards. We have Battie back to help take some of the load and now can be flexibility when match ups dictate Tony playing more. Rashard is our starting 4 - deal with it people. Otis/SVG are going to ride that lineup with the other additons/roster tweaks into the season...I'm okay this it! If perfomance is much less than expectations after a couple of months, then a deadline trade could happen...

rafy · Post #14 » by **rafy** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:35 am

That's right, this team could win a bunch of games, but Howard is a championship center and it wouldn't be fair to waste it with Nelson and Shard as the main gamers. This team is good, but it needs some stuff as you say, and that very well could happen by the deadline, but this is real gm... we can play to be ones.

DMannOC · Post #15 » by **DMannOC** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:53 am

And i was really hoping that the Clipps offered Iggy everything + the kitchen sink just as revenge for Brand

drsd · Post #16 » by **drsd** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:32 am

I do not expect a WOW trade. GM Smith and StM are going to roll the dice one more year on the Turkoglu/Lewis tandem.

zerp · Post #17 » by **zerp** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:47 am

Camby for only a SECOND round pick, it's not Magic can do that.

Post #18 » by **damo[23]** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:48 am

zerp wrote:Camby for only a SECOND round pick, it's not Magic can do that.

Salary dump for the Nug's - Clippers had the room for it.

Not the sort of deal many teams can do at all.

Optimus_Steel · Post #19 » by **Optimus_Steel** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:37 am

rafy wrote:Camby was traded to the Clippers for a 2nd rd pick.

I think they are having a firesale, what about Hedo for Kenyon Martin?

If Crittendon (sp?) gets his butt here, we'll have another creator because in that department we would suck without Hedo, but if we get another creator, having a quality PF while we are contending in the east would be a big leap. Yes, Kmart's deal sucks, but whatever... we have $$$$$hard.

So if we trade Turkoglu while his value is in an all time high, we could finally balance our roster.

Nelson
Pietrus
$$$$$$
Martin
Howard

altough I'd like to have a better PG, because that way Boston would be swetting in the ECF with us.

Thats one of the most terrible ideas i seen on here.

KingRobb02 · Post #20 » by **KingRobb02** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:00 pm

Clippers:
Davis
Mobely
Thornton
Camby
Kaman

The Clippers were smart to do this since this means they don't have to throw all their cap room at a RFA and then wait a week before the other team matches. This way they get to add Camby, who will cover up for Kaman's defense, while still having 3 million to fill out their roster.

Nuggets
Iverson
Smith
Kleiza
Anthony
Nene

The Nuggets realize that the team wasn't going anywhere as built, so they are obviously deciding to build around the 4 youngsters for the future. They were paying 4 players $10 million+, and they wanted to be able to re-sign JR Smith. Trading the 35 year old Camby saves them 20 million this year, and then next summer they have 10 million to throw at someone when the FA class will be much better. With or without Camby, this team is a first round knockout at best. Look for them to try to move Martin.