OT: Rookie Pay Scale

[flyingvee]

Interesting point made by some guy during halftime of the USA-Canada game about most draft picks from Europe not coming over to play, like Tiago Splitter because they can make a lot more money in Europe than what they would on the NBA rookie pay scale. But his suggestion of how the NBA may remedy this is ridiculous. He said they should keep the rookie scale in place for lottery picks and then let the rest be able to negotiate. Now wouldn't that be a blast? You'd have your late picks being able to make a ton more than your first round pick?

[magicfanatic23]

That is the most (Please Use More Appropriate Word) thing I have ever heard. They should just keep it the same and if players want to play in the NBA, they will come. It is that simple.

[magicfan4life05]

haha i heard that too, chris sheridan said it....not that smart.....

[Devin 1L]

Interesting point made by some guy during halftime of the USA-Canada game about most draft picks from Europe not coming over to play, like Tiago Splitter because they can make a lot more money in Europe than what they would on the NBA rookie pay scale. But his suggestion of how the NBA may remedy this is ridiculous. He said they should keep the rookie scale in place for lottery picks and then let the rest be able to negotiate. Now wouldn't that be a blast? You'd have your late picks being able to make a ton more than your first round pick?

That's actually how it is right now with 1st and 2nd round picks. Provided the team that drafts them has cap room, a second round pick could theoretically get paid a lot. Thing is, there is a reason they weren't drafted in the first 30 picks.

[magicfan4life05]

I may be wrong, but I believe second round picks can get more guaranteed money sooner than first round picks, however a team can spend more on first round picks in general ( for instance giving them full max deals) but usually for a second round pick although they can re-sign earlier, there's a limit a team can spend on them w/o cutting into their MLE or something.

A way to get around that is to sign your second round pick (once you draft them) using your MLE (just like miami did with chalmers this season) which gives that player full bird rights automatically so when it's time to re-sign, they can offer as much as they want w/o restrictions.

[UCFJayBird]

There's no simple way to solve this. No matter what solution they come up with is just going to cause more problems. Childress is an aberation, most players that will be lured to europe can be replaced on their teams with relative ease and not much loss of contribution.

The NBA just has to stick it out for the most part. Their draft system is probably the best in sports. The NFLs is a joke because of how players can hold out and demand more money. In fact I think they're talking about the NFL adopting some kind of scale for the draft like the NBA does, because of players continuously holding out for a ridiculous amount of money, or making more money than the players taken in front of them.

The NBA is just going to have to come to terms with their being other leagues in the world that want these players, and with their leagues growing they're finding the funds to lure these guys. It's not like they're going to get superstars that get that money here anyway. It's not like Lebron James is going to go play for Olympiacos. The NBA might lose some decent bench players, but the NBA has been taking players from Europe for years, depriving their leagues of their star players.

Europe is just finally getting into the game of free agency in America.

[craig01]

I don't fully understand how the euro's can afford (total revenue) some of these guys.

[MoMM]

Interesting point made by some guy during halftime of the USA-Canada game about most draft picks from Europe not coming over to play, like Tiago Splitter because they can make a lot more money in Europe than what they would on the NBA rookie pay scale. But his suggestion of how the NBA may remedy this is ridiculous. He said they should keep the rookie scale in place for lottery picks and then let the rest be able to negotiate. Now wouldn't that be a blast? You'd have your late picks being able to make a ton more than your first round pick?

Maybe something like, a player gets drafted and then if he didnt come to NBA in 3 years, the team holds his rights, but needs to negotiate like a restrict FA, so they could offer him what they want and pay at least something close to european salaries.

[UCFJayBird]

Interesting point made by some guy during halftime of the USA-Canada game about most draft picks from Europe not coming over to play, like Tiago Splitter because they can make a lot more money in Europe than what they would on the NBA rookie pay scale. But his suggestion of how the NBA may remedy this is ridiculous. He said they should keep the rookie scale in place for lottery picks and then let the rest be able to negotiate. Now wouldn't that be a blast? You'd have your late picks being able to make a ton more than your first round pick?

Maybe something like, a player gets drafted and then if he didnt come to NBA in 3 years, the team holds his rights, but needs to negotiate like a restrict FA, so they could offer him what they want and pay at least something close to european salaries.

that's a pretty good idea. Say the player is a 1st round pick, if he doesn't come over by the 2nd year, the team has a option to release him from his contract, but he becomes restricted. There'd have to be some restrictions though. Wouldn't be fair for a team to pick a european prospect, wait two years, and then sign them for money they don't have (over the cap). Maybe there'd be some kind of new exception created for this instance, say another MLE size contract, available to these players. Teams can use all of it, or some of it.

[Devin 1L]

Interesting point made by some guy during halftime of the USA-Canada game about most draft picks from Europe not coming over to play, like Tiago Splitter because they can make a lot more money in Europe than what they would on the NBA rookie pay scale. But his suggestion of how the NBA may remedy this is ridiculous. He said they should keep the rookie scale in place for lottery picks and then let the rest be able to negotiate. Now wouldn't that be a blast? You'd have your late picks being able to make a ton more than your first round pick?

Maybe something like, a player gets drafted and then if he didnt come to NBA in 3 years, the team holds his rights, but needs to negotiate like a restrict FA, so they could offer him what they want and pay at least something close to european salaries.

Actually, a 3 year rule similar to this already exists.

[drsd]

Actually, a 3 year rule similar to this already exists.

This would effect the signability of Vazquez. Do you have a link to a legitimate CBA FAQ to consider the details?

[Devin 1L]

Actually, a 3 year rule similar to this already exists.

This would effect the signability of Vazquez. Do you have a link to a legitimate CBA FAQ to consider the details?

Except as provided in Section 3 below, a First Round Pick who does not sign with the Team that holds his draft rights for any portion of the three (3) Seasons following the NBA Draft in which he was selected (and who did not play intercollegiate basketball during such period) may enter into either (a) a Rookie Scale Contract in accordance with Section 1 above, or (b) if the Team has Room in excess of the applicable first-year Rookie Scale Amount, a Contract covering no fewer than three (3) Seasons that provides for Salary plus Unlikely Bonuses in the first Salary Cap Year up to the amount of the Team’s Room and increases or decreases in Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in subsequent Salary Cap Years in accordance with Article VII, Section 5(c)(1).