Artest to Houston

myconsumerclub · Post #1 » by **myconsumerclub** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:30 am

• Ron Artest's statistics

• Bobby Jackson's statistics

In what had been a quiet offseason, the Rockets are about to make a lot of noise.

In a stunning move designed to push the Rockets from solid playoff team toward legitimate NBA contenders, the Rockets reached agreement Tuesday with the Sacramento Kings to acquire gifted but controversial forward Ron Artest, according to an NBA executive with knowledge of the deal.

The Rockets will give up guard Bobby Jackson, a No. 1 draft pick next season and another player that the individual with knowledge of the trade could not name. Rockets general manager Daryl Morey could not be immediately reached for comment.

Because of contract considerations, the trade will not be announced until Aug. 14, though that would indicate the deal could include Rockets’ first round draft pick Donte’ Greene. Greene is not permitted to be traded until then, one month from when he signed with the Rockets.

There could also be other players involved to make the money match but none that the Rockets would plan to keep. The Rockets will also send the Kings cash in excess of $1 million.

Artest, 28, is considered one of the NBA’s most unpredictable characters and was the central figure in a 2004-05 brawl with fans in Auburn Hills, Mich. He is also considered among the league’s toughest lock-down defenders and sometimes, an unstoppable offensive force.

The 39 points he scored against the Rockets in 2006-07 season are his career high.

A 6-7, 248 pound forward, he had publicly lamented his decision last month not to opt out of the last season of his contract to become a free agent, renewing the Kings’ efforts to move him.

Artest played 40 games for Rockets coach Rick Adelman after he was traded by the Indiana Pacers to the Kings in the 2005-06 season, averaging 16.9 points, 5.2 rebounds and a career-high 4.2 assists. He was also a first-team NBA All-Defensive team selection. He offered to donate his salary if the Kings were willing to retain Adelman after that season.

In nine NBA seasons out of St. John’s, where he was a third-team All-American, Artest has averaged 16 points and 5.1 rebounds. He was the 2003-04 NBA Defensive Player of the Year. He averaged 20.5 points per game last season.

Artest, however, has been unable to stay clear from trouble. He was arrested in March 2007 and charged with domestic abuse and eventually sentenced to 20 days in jail and community service. That sentence was reduced to 10 days in a work release program. He had also been charged with animal neglect, though charges were not filed and Artest has since worked with People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals on several campaigns.

In addition to his 73-game suspension after going into the stands in the Nov. 19, 2004 brawl (the longest suspension in NBA history other than for drug policy violations or gambling), he has been suspended for destroying a television camera in New York, for an altercation with then Heat coach Pat Riley in Miami and for numerous flagrant fouls.

Drafted by the Chicago Bulls in 1999, he was traded in 2002 to the Pacers, having some of his best seasons, including his one All Star season in 2003-04. Prior to the fight in 2004, he was suspended for two games for asking for a month off to promote an R&B album by a group on his production label.

After his return to the Pacers the season after the fight, he asked for a trade and was placed on the inactive roster.

Though Artest has been best used as a small forward, Rockets forward Shane Battier is also considered among the league’s best players at defending small forwards and shooting guards. But because Artest can defend players from small guards to power forwards, the Rockets could finish games with Artest and Battier on the court together, either with Tracy McGrady sliding over to point guard or with Artest matching up with power forwards.

Rand10 · Post #2 » by **Rand10** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:36 am

Houston has a shot now if they stay healthy. The only positive side to this is that we can laugh at kings fans who were convinced Artest > Howard.

Pointguard01 · Post #3 » by **Pointguard01** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:41 am

Great. Now Houston passes us.

TheLSUMaverick · Post #4 » by **TheLSUMaverick** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:01 am

WOOOOWWWWW!!!!! UNBELEIVABLE, RIDICULOUSE, OMG!!! How in the world is this offer
better than our offer of Stackhouse and Bass. OMG now Houston is one of the big
contenders in the West we are screwed we better pray to GOD that Gerald Greene
or someone just turns into the next Kobe or Lebron on something...like that willl happen!
:oops:

mffl_14 · Post #5 » by **mffl_14** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:39 am

Dont panic everybody we actually have our first round pick this year so when we are in the lottery we will actually have a pick because we haven't traded this one ! Geez can we make a deal to trade Dallas to the East that's the only way I see us having a guarenteed spot in the playoff's and that's starting to look less and less likely as well.

myconsumerclub · Post #6 » by **myconsumerclub** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:46 am

Tank the season for rubio

Just kidding we love our team. Green and Wright as our combo 2 better work out and maybe Rhodes Singleton or Bass at SF to let Howard slide over to the 2 will work. WE are being forced to play our youth so we need someone to step up bigtime. Stack needs to go so hopefully we can get rid of him without having to give up anyone else.

rpa · Post #7 » by **rpa** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:47 am

MavsFan41 wrote:WOOOOWWWWW!!!!! UNBELEIVABLE, RIDICULOUSE, OMG!!! How in the world is this offer
better than our offer of Stackhouse and Bass. OMG now Houston is one of the big
contenders in the West we are screwed we better pray to GOD that Gerald Greene
or someone just turns into the next Kobe or Lebron on something...like that willl happen!

Because the Kings got what amounted to 2 1st rounders out of this trade while Bass' value, at best, is 1 of those 1st rounders. Stackhouse also has a buyout for next year (and may not be the happiest guy playing on a bad Kings team) whereas Jackson is purely expiring. Expiring + 1st rounders clearly blows Bass/Stackhouse out of the water--especially on a team that just drafted for a 4 (Thompson) and traded for another one (Shelden Williams) thus hurting Bass' value even more.

mffl_14 · Post #8 » by **mffl_14** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:57 am

Front office where are you and why aren't you doing anything ! :banghead:

Post #9 » by **studcrackers** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:07 am

houstons laughing all the way to the bank telling sacto how there ass tastes

what an awful deal

from_ro_to_dirk · Post #10 » by **from_ro_to_dirk** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:10 am

why is it every other team can trade nothing for All-Stars and our trading partners want our best players? bollocks.

god i hope this falls through. i live in houston, maybe i'll have to go to a game and toss a cup at him...

arkuo · Post #11 » by **arkuo** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:20 am

looking at our division...

the spurs, rockets and the hornets all are better than us... can we even make the playoffs?

with other teams bolstering their lineups, gerald freakin green remains to be our biggest signing....

i give up... we're the mavs....

i have very little trust remaining for our FO... if dallas manages to sign LBJ in 2011, then that might change... but until then, i doubt we'd be smelling the NBA finals anytime soon....

Post #12 » by **DDansby123** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:28 am

This just further cements our mediocrity in the West.

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #13 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:36 am

My optimism just ran out. We don't suck, the Rockettes just suck less. The Hornettes just suck a lot less. The Spurs are freaking old and they suck less. Da Clips may have passed us by.

If we made the lottery, Stern would make sure we chose 16th out of 15th...

The bottom line is 8 teams in the West suck less than we do.
Portland
Utah
Lakers
Clippers
Phoenix
Houston
New Orleans
San Antone

Hello lottery!

mavsfoty · Post #14 » by **mavsfoty** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:38 am

Un freakin believable. Another trade of Gasol like proportions and we can do a darn thing except sign projects and has beens.

your_dallas_mavericks · Post #15 » by **your_dallas_mavericks** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:46 am

DDansby123 wrote:This just further cements our mediocrity in the West.

I'd love to be at the point we could refer to ourselves as the bastion of mediocrity! We're lower than that. We're on our way down and we can't cut the salaries to break our fall! If Cuban gets the Cubs no telling what happens to us?

Captain_Obvious · Post #16 » by **Captain_Obvious** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:59 am

It was bound to happen

FO will wait until around christmas and then decide what route to go, rebuild by trading pieces or acquire new big names floating around that time
Whats disappointing about the Artest trade is that it was feasable but the FO decided to lowball them with their offer. What do you expect them to answer? Of course theyre asking for Josh! You offer them a bad contract they ask for Dirk, thats bartering...
And then they leak that the Kings asked for Josh as if they have to justify they cant possibly trade for Ron. They run bad business right now, they overpay roleplayers and sign "prospects" (and thats being kind) to one year deals as if theyre asking to get outbid next offseason if someone of that group really breaks out.

What will be the next overreaction of the FO to this?

mffl_14 · Post #17 » by **mffl_14** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:20 am

your_dallas_mavericks wrote:My optimism just ran out. We don't suck, the Rockettes just suck less. The Hornettes just suck a lot less. The Spurs are freaking old and they suck less. Da Clips may have passed us by.

If we made the lottery, Stern would make sure we chose 16th out of 15th...

The bottom line is 8 teams in the West suck less than we do.
Portland
Utah
Lakers
Clippers
Phoenix
Houston
New Orleans
San Antone

I think Portland will be good but until those guys as well as the Clippers prove it I still think we're better than them. Either way I dont expect this year to be fun and thats what sucks !

Hello lottery!

Post #18 » by **cmavswin** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:45 am

rpa wrote:
MavsFan41 wrote:WOOOOWWWWW!!!!! UNBELEIVABLE, RIDICULOUSE, OMG!!! How in the world is this offer
better than our offer of Stackhouse and Bass. OMG now Houston is one of the big
contenders in the West we are screwed we better pray to GOD that Gerald Greene
or someone just turns into the next Kobe or Lebron on something...like that willl happen!

Because the Kings got what amounted to 2 1st rounders out of this trade while Bass' value, at best, is 1 of those 1st rounders. Stackhouse also has a buyout for next year (and may not be the happiest guy playing on a bad Kings team) whereas Jackson is purely expiring. Expiring + 1st rounders clearly blows Bass/Stackhouse out of the water--especially on a team that just drafted for a 4 (Thompson) and traded for another one (Shelden Williams) thus hurting Bass' value even more.

Hey look everyone the Maloof's allow Petrie to come on RealGM and defend his stupid trade. The Kings had to move Artest and everyone knows it let me be the first to tell the Kings fans they got jack squat for Artest. All they got were 2 late 1st's and a expiring big deal.The only reason the Mavs did not get him is because Jason Kidd is here and all the Mavs assets are in NJ.

ppp000 · Post #19 » by **ppp000** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:12 am

Mavs backed themselves into this corner where they have few tradeable assets and also overvalue their own players than the rest of the league.

rpa · Post #20 » by **rpa** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 4:16 am

cmavswin wrote:Hey look everyone the Maloof's allow Petrie to come on RealGM and defend his stupid trade. The Kings had to move Artest and everyone knows it let me be the first to tell the Kings fans they got jack squat for Artest. All they got were 2 late 1st's and a expiring big deal.The only reason the Mavs did not get him is because Jason Kidd is here and all the Mavs assets are in NJ.

Who'd the Kings draft w/ their last late 1st rounder?

Kevin Martin. But keep telling yourself the Kings just got a buncha scrubs for Artest.