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Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:25 pm
by ecuhus1981
***Inspired by dflaschberger***

Trade ID# 4772275

Chicago Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Kenyon Martin, John Salmons, Mikki Moore
Outgoing Players: Andres Nocioni, Kirk Hinrich, Larry Hughes
CHI shores up their frontcourt, and brings in veterans who complement Rose & Co.
Rose, Salmons, Deng, Martin, Moore
(Gordon), Sefolosha, Nichols, Thomas, Noah


Denver Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Andres Nocioni, Kirk Hinrich, Kenny Thomas, Brad Miller
Outgoing Players: Steven Hunter, Kenyon Martin, Allen Iverson
DEN moves AI for players who can better complement Melo and JR.
Hinrich, Smith, Anthony, Nene, Miller
Carter, Weems, Nocioni, Kleiza, Andersen


Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players: Larry Hughes, Steven Hunter, Allen Iverson
Outgoing Players: John Salmons, Mikki Moore, Kenny Thomas, Brad Miller
SAC opens up PT for their frontcourt of the future (Hawes/Thompson/Greene), while adding an exciting pair of guards to add to their rotation.
Iverson, Martin, Garcia, Thompson, Hawes
Udrih, Hughes, Greene, Williams, Hunter

Re: Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:54 pm
by eslr
Value wise its fine for the Nuggets but there is no way in hell they take on that much salary. Cap hell for years.

Re: Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:02 pm
by CellarDoor
Bulls say no, i'm pretty sure we actually add salary in 2010 only to have another player blocking Tyrus' playing time. He's our second best prospect and I'm at the point where I either want him dealt or I want him playing a lot. You left Gooden off the depth chart, so we'd have five bigs in Martin, Gooden, Tyrus, and Noah in addition to more salary only to be paper thin at the PG position.

Re: Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:03 pm
by CellarDoor
eslr wrote:Value wise its fine for the Nuggets but there is no way in hell they take on that much salary. Cap hell for years.

You do realize it's really only added salary next year and then one more year of about 15m after KMart would've expired, right? And you'd be getting a top notch defensive G and a nice supersub for that price.

Re: Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:05 pm
by oaf549
eslr wrote:Value wise its fine for the Nuggets but there is no way in hell they take on that much salary. Cap hell for years.

And on top of that we have absolutely no need for another small forward.

Re: Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:08 pm
by CellarDoor
oaf549 wrote:
eslr wrote:Value wise its fine for the Nuggets but there is no way in hell they take on that much salary. Cap hell for years.

And on top of that we have absolutely no need for another small forward.

That's actually a good point. Unless Kleiza is turned into an asset at a different position, that will probably be a sticking point.

Re: Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:21 pm
by Nutty Nats Fan
Andres Nocioni, Kirk Hinrich, Kenny Thomas, Brad Miller

Agree with what was said. Denver has no use for Noc. Send him off to a 4th team?

Like Hinirch. Wouldn't mind Miller at all. Thomas would be wasted money, but after the season he'd be an expiring at least. Unless trade checker is wrong.

Denver bigs after the trade: Miller, Nene, Birdman. Ouch.

If Noc could be sent to a 4th team, that could bring back another decent backup big for Denver, I'd be more for it. At the moment, that leaves them a bit thin at PF/C.

Re: Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:22 pm
by CellarDoor
Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Andres Nocioni, Kirk Hinrich, Kenny Thomas, Brad Miller

Agree with what was said. Denver has no use for Noc. Send him off to a 4th team?

Like Hinirch. Wouldn't mind Miller at all. Thomas would be wasted money, but after the season he'd be an expiring at least. Unless trade checker is wrong.

Denver bigs after the trade: Miller, Nene, Birdman. Ouch.

If Noc could be sent to a 4th team, that could bring back another decent backup big for Denver, I'd be more for it. At the moment, that leaves them a bit thin at PF/C.

Keep in mind Noc plays some 4 if you did keep him.

Re: Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:31 pm
by oaf549
CellarDoor wrote:
Nutty Nats Fan wrote:
Andres Nocioni, Kirk Hinrich, Kenny Thomas, Brad Miller

Agree with what was said. Denver has no use for Noc. Send him off to a 4th team?

Like Hinirch. Wouldn't mind Miller at all. Thomas would be wasted money, but after the season he'd be an expiring at least. Unless trade checker is wrong.

Denver bigs after the trade: Miller, Nene, Birdman. Ouch.

If Noc could be sent to a 4th team, that could bring back another decent backup big for Denver, I'd be more for it. At the moment, that leaves them a bit thin at PF/C.

Keep in mind Noc plays some 4 if you did keep him.

So does Melo, Kleiza and Balkman. I just don't see how he's an effect use of the Nuggets money. Kmart can at least defend pf's and centers effectively. Miller and Hinrich would be nice but not with the added salary of Noc and Thomas.

Re: Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:37 pm
by CellarDoor
^Like I said before it's all mute, Chicago declines, but I was referring to the list of denver bigs after the trade. Either Kleiza and Noc would both see time down there.

Re: Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:07 pm
by Jud's Buechlers
No from the Bulls. Not enough interest in those guys to give up Noc and Kirk.

Re: Bulls, Nuggets and Kings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:40 pm
by Nutty Nats Fan
CellarDoor wrote:^Like I said before it's all mute, Chicago declines, but I was referring to the list of denver bigs after the trade. Either Kleiza and Noc would both see time down there.

Yeah, I know Noc can, and LK and Melo, but would rather have at least another big with size.

Though true, it is a moot point.